Wallyworld White Box -- where have these been???

[lee n. field]

Good thing I kept the receipt.

I picked up one of Walmart's 100 packs of .40 S&M today. This is what they look like.

What's happened to these?

 

[t driver]

Were they loose packed like the 9mm? (I don't shoot .40 so I don't know) If so it is likely the got beat up in shipping. Freight carriers are not kind to bulk (loose) packed items. And a pallet full of stacked up ammunition is very heavy. The .45 bulk packs come in trays. I suspect it is to avoid what you are looking at.

 

[coldshot03/04]

Dang!!

 

[MagKnightX]

Whoa. I'm kind of surprised that didn't crush the primers and set them off in transit. I guess that it was mistreatment and mispacking that caused that. Hot enough to deform them by melting would be hot enough to set the rounds off.

 

[DigMe]

THe ones I've bought all worked fine and none of them were physically deformed but many of them did have that scrape looking thing that went all around the shell as seen in the picture. They look nasty but as long as they keep working for me I'll keep buying them in all honesty. I have very little money as my wife is still in medical school and my job doesn't pay all that much so at this point I go with what works at the cheapest possible price.

To answer t driver's question - the .40 rounds come in trays too.

brad cook

 

[lee n. field]

Were they loose packed like the 9mm? If so it is likely the got beat up in shipping. Freight carriers are not kind to bulk (loose) packed items. And a pallet full of stacked up ammunition is very heavy. The .45 bulk packs come in trays. I suspect it is to avoid what you are looking at.

The .40 are in 2 trays of 50. As it turns out, cartridges in the bottom tray look fine, but all those in the top tray look like the picture.

 

[denfoote]

Given that, t driver's explaination seems to fit!! Did you take them back?? Were you successful?? I'm not sure Wallyworld takes back ammo!!

 

[FPrice]

Have you tried to contact Winchester? I would like to know their response.

 

[Berg01]

I have been shooting these in my CZ 75B .40S&W, and in fact, the gun is presently at the local pistolsmith to correct intermittent feeding problems with the stuff. But the stuff is readily available, and cheap, and it is fairly accurate in the CZ, so I felt that it was worthwhile to get the problem fixed. Besides, I do not like ammo-sensitive guns. I have had no problems with the 9mm ValuePack ammo in my Sig P228, but that gun feeds everything you put through it.

 

[AJ Dual]

I've had issues with the Wally-World Winchester White Box as well.

(WWWWB is a very ungainly acronym... perhaps W4B is better? )

The pistol ammo, even the loose 9mm has been fine, but I did buy a few 40 round bulk box of .223, and all the cases were coated in micro-fine brass dust. After loading a mag for a steel plate rapid-fire match, I had gold fingerprints on the mags and was

Then I looked at my hands and they were all green-gold from the dust sticking to my hands.

No biggie, I've had not one failure to feed fire or extract in 9mm, .45, or .40 bulk packs, but it was still weird.

 

[lee n. field]

Walmart here accepted the return of the value pack ammo. Their posted policy allows for ammo returns within 24 hours.

I went to replace it. Ammo in the next two boxes of value pack .40 I checked had the same problem.

I don't know that the marred cases are an actual problem vis a vis safety or functioning, but it does point to some possible quality control problems. Either noone looked at these, or noone who saw cared.

Looking at Winchester's web site I can't find any good way to contact them for their opinion.

I bought a single box of UMC yellow box .40 (which I have never had a problem with).

 

[blue86buick]

It looks to me like the rounds were swirled around rather vigorously in the boxes, and the styrofoam carriers rubbed marks around the brass. I kinda wonder what kind of handling would do such a thing, but ya never know with some places.

 

[DigMe]

I honestly don't think that was caused by the styrofoam. I have some too and I think a more likely explanation is either the machinery used to make them or the machinery used to get them in the box. Maybe I'm wrong.

brad cook

 

[blue86buick]

yeah, you could be right. most likely, you are right....styrofoam IS rather soft compared to brass.

 

[mattd]

Its from the factory, has nothing to do with shipping or packaging or wallyworld.

 

[BigG]

Why do you think they are cheaper than normal .40?

They are probably factory blems - some cosmetic thing wrong but work fine.

 

[mattd]

As long as there not on the back of the case, I think its called the head, You shouldn't worry because the barrel will seal around the body of the case and stop it from blowing out.

 

[Newton]

I have a Winchester pre-paid return shipping tag ready to go for 2 boxes of .40S&W that look just like these.

Rumor has it that Winchester is getting almost as many sent back as they are shipping, there have been threads here in THR previously on the same subject.

A definitive answer as to whether or not these rounds are dangerous, or even truly defective to the extent that they may cause malfunctions has not yet been established.

 

[mattd]

I had a Winchester Xpert .22lr casehead blew out on me. I still got about 250rds of that stuff left that I don't know what to do with, they also had a few loose bullet heads to.

 

[DigMe]

Rumor has it that Winchester is getting almost as many sent back as they are shipping

Doubtful. These things (along with all other Win. white box besides value packs) sell like hotcakes at my local WalMart and I'd be willing to bet that most people, while wary at first, probably don't care as long as the bullets work.

brad cook