So how do these guns stack up to others? For some reason, I'm thinking that S&W owns them, but I can't remember. Both my girlfriend and sister have held these pistols and both like them. They will be taking a ccw class within the next couple of months and are looking for carry pistols. They both have fairly small hands, and they are both quite impressed with the feel of the pistol in their hands. I wanted to check on here for any reviews or experiences regarding the guns. They are looking at the 9mm version, and I told them if they were good guns, I would buy one for them to practice with. So, what do you guys think, is it worth consideration or should we look at something else?
Walther PPS....any good?
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I like mine. Here gunblast on the pps: http://www.gunblast.com/Walther-PPS.htm
S&W is the importer, not the manufacturer.
Magazines are quite expensive, $50+.
S&W is the importer, not the manufacturer.
Magazines are quite expensive, $50+.
bigfatdave
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I'm liking mine (9mm), about 150 rounds through so far. Only issue has been one failure to fully chamber a round while MrsBFD was trying it out - I'm guessing limp-wristing.
Coltman 77
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My wife chose one for concealed carry when we got our CCH permits about 8 months ago. It is about the size of a PPK/S so it is perfect for this application.
The PPS has been great in terms of accuracy and reliability.
We've put approximately 800 rds of various fmj and jhp thru it without a single hiccup.
I'm very impressed with the PPS.
The PPS has been great in terms of accuracy and reliability.
We've put approximately 800 rds of various fmj and jhp thru it without a single hiccup.
I'm very impressed with the PPS.
bigfatdave
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Any recommendations on HP ammo?
I have Speer gold dots and some Federal hydrashock on hand, but I've been getting used to the PPS with WWB range ammo before I start evaluating defense ammo.
That and the fact that HP 9mm is getting scarce around here.
I have Speer gold dots and some Federal hydrashock on hand, but I've been getting used to the PPS with WWB range ammo before I start evaluating defense ammo.
That and the fact that HP 9mm is getting scarce around here.
Deanimator
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Consider the Winchester White Box 147gr. JHPs. They shoot very well out of my Glock 19 and Browning High Power. They test well for penetration AND extraction, and it's some of the most reasonably priced name brand self-defense ammunition I'm aware of.
dontshakepandas
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I carry my 9mm PPS every day. I have about 800 rounds through it without a single problem. It is really accurate for such a small gun too. It is so easy to conceal, that I never have to leave it at home, except when I am at school.
The only complaints I have are the high price of the magazines, and the lack of other available accessories at this point. My gun NEEDS night sights, but there is only one set available. They cost $150 dollars, and I still have no solid verification that they will work on the PPS. It will get better though, and I think and hope it will be pretty soon.
The only complaints I have are the high price of the magazines, and the lack of other available accessories at this point. My gun NEEDS night sights, but there is only one set available. They cost $150 dollars, and I still have no solid verification that they will work on the PPS. It will get better though, and I think and hope it will be pretty soon.
Coltman 77
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My wife's PPS likes Golden Saber, Hydra Shok and Gold Dot.
We haven't tried any other self defense ammo yet.
It'll handle +p 9mm too.
We haven't tried any other self defense ammo yet.
It'll handle +p 9mm too.
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dontshakepandas
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I have never shot the .40 but I've heard its a pretty good shooter too. I would think it would be pretty snappy though, its a high pressure round in a small package.
The 9mm is extremely easy to control for me, but my dad feels that it has more recoil than his M&P 45 and S&W 1006 10mm. The smaller size can make a big difference, but to be honest he didn't shoot it much at all. I'm not recoil sensitive at all, so it is hard for me to guess how other people would react to it.
The 9mm is extremely easy to control for me, but my dad feels that it has more recoil than his M&P 45 and S&W 1006 10mm. The smaller size can make a big difference, but to be honest he didn't shoot it much at all. I'm not recoil sensitive at all, so it is hard for me to guess how other people would react to it.
searcher451
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The PPS is an outstanding money, especially considering its overall shape and size, the calibers it's available in, and a selling price of under $600. Break it in with some easy and enjoyable range work and after a few hundred rounds or so, you'll have a most-reliable carry gun that is both accurate and easy to conceal.
The Gold Dots work wonderfull well in my 9mm PPS (I ran upwards of 500 rounds of Winchester White Box 115-gr FMJ through it initially). I'm still running FMJ through the PPS that I picked up around Christmas in .40S&W.
Bottom line: The Walther is tough to beat.
The Gold Dots work wonderfull well in my 9mm PPS (I ran upwards of 500 rounds of Winchester White Box 115-gr FMJ through it initially). I'm still running FMJ through the PPS that I picked up around Christmas in .40S&W.
Bottom line: The Walther is tough to beat.
StephenT
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I've been thinking about one, but had been resisting due to the high price tag ($650+ at the gun shows). Then, I ran into one for $429.95+ tax yesterday at Gander Mountain and quickly grabbed it. Mine is a 40 with perhaps one box through it. It cleaned up very nicely and looks brand new now. Here's a photo of it.
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Stephen T: That's a great buy -- jaw-dropping great, in fact. I got mine for $589 and was very happy with that deal. Many of them go for upward$ of $650 on the variou$ board$ and auction site$. Even at that, a quality carry piece in that caliber that works reliably and dependably is a bargain.
StephenT
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The PPS is about as thin as a Kel Tec PF9 and has a similar grip length, but the PPS has a longer barrel and trigger guard. Here they are side by side.
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StephenT
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No, the gun was used (maybe 50 rounds have been shot through it, judging by the wear). GM was selling a new one for $729. Sure, I would have preferred it in 9mm, but this deal was too good to pass up...
IMTHDUKE
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Would take a Walthers over a K tec any day.
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I bought one in .40 a couple of months ago. A little over one hundred rounds downrange since then (would be more, but I can't bring it to Iraq with me 
). It's a comfortable gun to shoot, it conceals well and is very accurate. Haven't had any jams that weren't pilot error. I don't find it to be overly snappy, but haven't compared it to the 9mm.
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). It's a comfortable gun to shoot, it conceals well and is very accurate. Haven't had any jams that weren't pilot error. I don't find it to be overly snappy, but haven't compared it to the 9mm.GP
Coltman 77
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I am absolutely with IMTHDUke.
Keltec can't hold a candle to Walther. Neither can Kahr.
Walther has been producing quality firearms for more than 100 years.
Keltec can't hold a candle to Walther. Neither can Kahr.
Walther has been producing quality firearms for more than 100 years.
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StephenT
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Well, I'm just back from the range where I took the Walther for a spin. The PPS functioned perfectly (no jams), but I find the beast rather snappy and ended up changing the backstrap so that I could get a better grip on it. For me at least, it wasn't the most enjoyable range gun. After the PPS, shooting a S&W 6906 in 9mm felt so nice and "civilized".
awg1203r
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the 9mm pps feels much better than the .40 cal. Walther was bought by S&W, In my experience, Walthers need break in. I only have a couple of jams untill I got about 300 round through it. Havn't had a problem since. you gotta have a firm grip on this gun. My brother wanted to try it out and it jammed almost every shot. Can't limp wrist it. I love it, shoots great for me, and very easy for a ccw.
whoa whoa there cowboy, we can agree on the keltec statement, but my Kahr K40 is the same size and dimension as the walther, but its a much nicer gun. Its accurate as hell, has the best ergonomics of its class and has the best DOA trigger I've ever seen. Combine that with its tritium night sites and you got yourself a killer pistol that hands down is better then the walther PPS.
dontshakepandas
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Smith and Wesson did not buy Walther. They simply import their products into the United States. Because of this, they also handle warranty issues with the Walther guns.
WRGADog
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Yep, I like my PPS
Mine is 9mm. Very accurate, unbelievably slim and easy to conceal.
Mine is 9mm. Very accurate, unbelievably slim and easy to conceal.
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