Want a "real" autoloader in .22

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I am getting curiously addicted to going to the range, but it's a bit expensive to shoot 9mm (even WallyWorldWinchesterWhiteBox).

I find myself completely turned off by Ruger target .22's. They look funny, they're supposed to be a bear to take apart, and they just don't work like my carry pistol, a Ruger P95.

I want a gun that'll shoot dirt-cheap .22 rounds, but acts like a regular old bigger gun.

I don't want a 1911 with a converter kit. (Well, maybe I do, but they're too darned expensive!)

I thought about a Walther P22, but have heard some bad things about them breaking and jamming a lot.

Any other thoughts on a $200-300 gun that'll be fun to shoot, viable to train with, and not break the bank?
 
Please consider a re-visit to the Ruger MKII. The take-down really is easy when you follow instructions. With the bull barrel, the balance is great.
The reliability is second to none.

My favorite handgun.
 
You could always opt for the wheelgun...

Taurus/S&W make some nice regular sized DA/SA revolvers...

You might look into a Ruger Single Six...



~Brian
 
Think either .22 revolver if you are inclined to going that route or CZ 75 Kadet.

Although this is technically just a conversion to the CZ75 you can buy just a CZ 75 Kadet .22 whole gun for about the cost of a CZ75 which should be pretty reasonable think $400ish.

Looks like a normal semi auto, handles like a normal semi auto and should you like it you could always pick up a real 75 9mm slide assembly later on.

My 2 cents.
Chris
 
Whoever told you the MkII was hard to take down was a nitwit.

I bought one a week ago and have put 2000+ rounds through it on 4 trips to the range. I take it down it 5 seconds and clean it after each trip.

It takes 10 seconds to put back together. A paper clip is the only tool you need.

It's a clasic and very accurate and fun to shoot. Tons of grips and parts for it are available.

There are several 22 autoloaders out there from Kinber and walther and beretta. All are more expensive I believe.
 
This guy has directions on his site for assembly/dissassembly and he even hasa video.

DL the video and you will get what is really involded. :D
 
A Ruger Mk-II takes about 10 seconds to field strip and about 30 seconds or less to put back togather once you learn how to do it.

They are one of the best .22 autos made.

The Browning Buckmark is good also.
 
I'd say Ruger MkII or a Walther P22.


The Ruger MkII takes a whole 10 seconds to take down and another 10 seconds to reassemble.
 
Ruger 22/45. It's the Mk. II with .45 auto style controls.
CZ-75 Cadet. CZ-75 chambered in .22LR, can be converted to a CZ-75B later if you like. I hear they're discontinued so might be tricky to find a good price on them.
 
I still don't know how I talked myself into paying this much for a .22 but I did. I bought a Kimber Rimfire a while back and I love it. I am a 1911 fan and was wanting a 1911 style .22 so that I could help break some bad habits. It is a blast to shoot and I figured that all the money I would save in ammo would make up for the price of the gun.
 
If you don't like the Rugers, check out the Browning Buck Marks. The grip angle is similar to the 1911. Mine has an excellent trigger, and is reliable and accurate with ammo it likes.
 
The Ruger Mk II is the way to go...don't let the takedown intimidate you! It really is quite simple ;) If not the Ruger, maybe a Buckmark or a 22lr wheelgun will do the trick!
 
I had a Ruger Target Competition, with the long slab-sided barrel.

Loved it, but later got a Kadet Adapter Kit for my CZ-85 Combat. It proved to be just as accurate as the Ruger and I traded the Ruger away. (That's pretty darned accurate, by the way.)

With the kit, I can practice with the same trigger pull, same weight, and same sights as when shooting 9mm -- great for working on your draw/presentation, etc.. (The 85 Combat and the Kadet kit both have adjustable sights.)

A reasonably cheap route to take, if you already have a CZ, and very, very practical, in the long run -- as the Kadet Kit costs about the same as a cheap .22.
 
Interesting thing about field stripping. I decided to take my Ruger Target 678 completely tonight.

I stripped it all down and played with the trigger adjustment a bit then put it back together. I had never taken a pistol apart like that in my life and it was a snap. I just don't get where the stigma with the Rugers comes from.

There must have been a ruger owner that was cross eyed or something like that and he couldn't get it back together so he made 50 posts on every message board on the internet. :D :uhoh:
 
MkII's are great guns for the money--yes they do look ugly, but they don't cost a whole lot, they shoot pretty accurate and last darn near forever. There's not many other 22 pistols you can say all three of those things about. The takedown problem involves a trick where you flip the gun over while partly assembled, to get an internal part to fall into position. It is easy once you learn it but the included instructions do not say how it's done.
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If you mean that you want a "1911-style" gun, I feel your pain. I want one too. And the Walther P22 is the only one out there right now, and it has some serious quality issues, mostly now concerning the words "zinc" and "slide". If they made it out of all-steel it would be awesome. Until they do I won't consider it, I have heard too many people say that they are not accurate and that they loosen up badly (to the point of being dangerous) after just a few thousand shots (--who wants to be the first person to shoot one to failure?). S&W makes them but they do not have the S&W lifetime warranty--they only have a one-year warranty, and S&W has replaced guns that have worn out to unsafe levels in that time because the hooks that the slide rides on wear out, and these hooks are permanently set into the polymer grip, and one of these hooks is the serial-number bearing part. So in total, this gun design cannot be redeemed without some major redesign work.
Oh well.
You can use a 22 convertor in a big-bore frame. Lotsa $$$ that way though.
S&W Mod 41's look right and shoot right, but cost a bit much.
Didn't Walther make a PPK in 22 a few years back? Or does they look too fruity?
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The Rugers are great 22's and have the most aftermarket parts,, even an idiot mod for people who can't put them back together. :rolleyes:

Other options not mentioned would be a Bersa or how about a Witness 45acp with 22 kit for only $400? Bren
 
Wow. Thanks for all the responses. I guess I have some more research to do.

Seriously, though, if it's a revolver, I don't want it.

If it's over $350, it's not gonna happen.

Oh, why-oh-why can't I get a Ruger P95 .22 conversion kit? :confused:
 
CZ 75 Kadet has been VERY reliable and its great for a lot of reasons - primary reason I use this is to start shooters on .22 and then allow them to graduate to 9mm on the exact same platform - just a different slide.
 
To dredge up an old thread...

I finally bought a Browning Buckmark, used, for $189. It looked like it had barely been fired. The side of the barrel has a flaw in the bluing (it looks like splotchy water marks), but I don't really care.

It's a joy to shoot, scary accurate, and I can't believe how cheap .22 ammo is!

It's my official "take newbies to the range" gun.

Yippee!

Thanks for all of the help.
 
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