longeyes
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I got the Neos because it was supposed to be a snap to take down. It is.
No experience with the Rugers.
No experience with the Rugers.
Want a "real" autoloader in .22
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Badger Arms
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So, what's wrong with the 22/45? BTW, they are NOT a bear to take apart, you just have to pay attention.
DougCxx
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- They look ugly. Or rather, they don't look like a modern "tactical" autoloading pistol. The Walther P22 does, though it's a tad smaller than I'd like.
And (in my opinion) it's built poorly.
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-Well it's not the taking-apart that's the problem, it's the putting-back-together that seems to annoy people.
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wintermute76
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The Ruger can be tough if you aren't used to it, took a while to get my old man's back together as it was my first time. And disassembly wasn't fun either, it's a bicentennial model, and had never been taken apart before 
Now it's all good, about 15 seconds to get it apart and maybe 20 or 30 to reassemble.
Myself, I have a Stoeger Pro Series 95 ( Hi Standard Victor clone ) and a Ruger Super Single Six. They're my main plinkers, the Single Six more so in the field.
A friend of mine has a Walther P22, he had one problem with it missing a detent for the safety so the safety would trip on after each shot, got the parts and fixed it, hasn't had a problem since. It's too small for my big paws tho. My Beretta 21A feeels bigger in the hand than the Walther.
Now it's all good, about 15 seconds to get it apart and maybe 20 or 30 to reassemble.Myself, I have a Stoeger Pro Series 95 ( Hi Standard Victor clone ) and a Ruger Super Single Six. They're my main plinkers, the Single Six more so in the field.
A friend of mine has a Walther P22, he had one problem with it missing a detent for the safety so the safety would trip on after each shot, got the parts and fixed it, hasn't had a problem since. It's too small for my big paws tho. My Beretta 21A feeels bigger in the hand than the Walther.
rbernie
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I've owned a Mark II - didn't like the grip angle. I've had the same issues with the Neos and the Woodsman and the High Standard. The Buckmark Micro (4" barrel) is my vote for the under $300 set, and the Sig/Hammersli Trailside is my vote for the under $400 set. I have both, and wouldn't have it any other way.
DougB
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I like the Ruger .22s and (especially) the Browning Buckmark, BUT if you want one that feels and operates like a double-action centerfire pistol, I think the CZ Kadet is a great way to go. You might consider looking for a good deal on a CZ-75 9mm and then just buying the conversion. The conversion alone will probably be in the $235 range, but includes two magazines, a plastic case, etc. I don't know what the full Kadet pistol sells for. These will be over your $350 price point, but it would get you another nice centerfire pistol as well. I have a couple of CZ 9mms and a Kadet conversion, and the Kadet is a lot of fun to shoot - accurate, reliable, and has the feel of a centerfire pistol.
Another option to consider is an EAA Witness with .22 conversion. I don't have any experience with their .22 conversions, but I have a Witness .45 that I like (so far - I haven't had a chance to shoot it much yet). The EAA's might be a little less, but I'd get the CZ Kadet if you can.
Doug
Another option to consider is an EAA Witness with .22 conversion. I don't have any experience with their .22 conversions, but I have a Witness .45 that I like (so far - I haven't had a chance to shoot it much yet). The EAA's might be a little less, but I'd get the CZ Kadet if you can.
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M1911Owner
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Woah!! Way cool!! Does that thing shoot disintegrator rays like the one George Jetson had?
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shep854
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I notice no one has spoken up for the S&W .22s. Any thoughts?
BTW, I'm a very happy BuckMark 5.5 owner.
BTW, I'm a very happy BuckMark 5.5 owner.
Someone already mentioned the 41. Its just expensive. I'll recommend it. Its what I learned to shoot on. My Dad "put it up" because their value is rising, but its still fun to shoot whenever he takes it out.
btw- we both got mkII's now.
btw- we both got mkII's now.
vapor22
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you might look into a Beretta 87 Target
does anyone have this gun and is it worth the money?
does anyone have this gun and is it worth the money?
Thirties
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Check out the S&W model 422 or the longer barrel 622. Cheap, accurate, easy to use, not at all finicky.
Of course, they are no longer made. So you'll have to look at used ones (under $150).
Of course, they are no longer made. So you'll have to look at used ones (under $150).
George Hill
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Ah, someone finally mentioned the Beretta 87.
Detritus
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laziness, and/or unwillingness to READ the instructions......
seriously the more i see of folks whining about how much of a PITA the ruger is the more i realize that many of them just do not want to put forth even minimal effort to learn something new. most i've seen, seem to suffer from a variation of "this thing don't go back like how I learned to do this on my Other gun..., it must be WRONG!" or "what i have to LOOK at something?? get real!".
Bersa .22. Walther PPK/Makarov style auto.
About $210.
http://www.firestorm-sgs.com/images/guns_w_locks/fs22.jpg
About $210.
http://www.firestorm-sgs.com/images/guns_w_locks/fs22.jpg
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MrAcheson
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Ugggh the Beretta 87. Its such a Beretta. It has all the stuff someone would like about a beretta and all the stuff I don't.
ACORN
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I finally bought a Browning Buckmark, used, for $189. It looked like it had barely been fired. The side of the barrel has a flaw in the bluing (it looks like splotchy water marks), but I don't really care.
Try a little Flitz or Simichrome on a clean soft rag. My Ruger had some spots on it, they polished right out. Just don't overdo it.
Try a little Flitz or Simichrome on a clean soft rag. My Ruger had some spots on it, they polished right out. Just don't overdo it.
Dr Strangelove
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I have the Beretta 87BB, the long barrel counterweighted single action-only 22lr version made in limited #'s in the late 80's. It is more accurate than my heavy barrelled Buckmark and has those sexy lines people either love or hate. It has never failed to function perfectly. The new 87 target is an abomination, as is the Neos.
Marshall
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Look at the Browning Buck Marks. I love mine. You can get a few different models for the price you would like to pay.
Browning Buck Mark
Browning Buck Mark
Justin
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The Ruger 22/45 is a decent plinker.
Same goes for the Browning Buckmark, which is more intuitive to re-assemble. For the same price, a Baikal would do well as both a general plinker and a target pistol, except that, IIRC, the magazine capacity is limited to five rounds, and it doesn't hold the slide open on the last shot. It does have the advantage of being adjustable six ways to Sunday.
However, I'm loathe to recommend Ruger pistols because, quite frankly, they suck. What Ruger considers to be a "target-grade" pistol is, IMHO, an absolute joke.
Same goes for the Browning Buckmark, which is more intuitive to re-assemble. For the same price, a Baikal would do well as both a general plinker and a target pistol, except that, IIRC, the magazine capacity is limited to five rounds, and it doesn't hold the slide open on the last shot. It does have the advantage of being adjustable six ways to Sunday.
However, I'm loathe to recommend Ruger pistols because, quite frankly, they suck. What Ruger considers to be a "target-grade" pistol is, IMHO, an absolute joke.
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