Was going to buy a kel tec now a ruger LCP

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I will wait until mid march and buy the LCP
Caliber: .380 Auto
Capacity: 6+1 Rounds
Finish: Blued
Grip: Glass-Filled Nylon
Barrel Length: 2.75"
Groove: 6
Twist: 1:16" RH
Overall Length: 5.16"
Weight: 9.4 oz
California Approved: No
Massachusetts Approved: No
Front Sight(s): Fixed
Rear Sight(s): Fixed
Other Features: N/A
Suggested Retail Price: $ 330.00
Miscellaneous: One 6-Round Magazine Included. Available for sale beginning mid-March, 2008.

Will probley go for arouns 275 same as a kel tec

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/FAProdSpecsView?model=3701
 
I'll wait till they have a stainless version and give 'em time to work out any bugs. The KT has a couple more rounds capacity and a little lighter trigger and it's proven. Plus, they have uber-fantastic customer service. But, I like my Rugers, too. I think stainless would be the tie breaker. My poor old P11 KT's bluing is showing the years. Don't keep it from shooting, though! :D
 
It is a neat firearm. But honestly I would still go with Kel Tec. For the simples reasons that it is a proven firearm. It is thinner, lighter, and more compact in the same caliber as the new Ruger. And has 1 more round .. which does mean something to some.

Kel Tec has an unlimited 100% lifetime guarantee. And their customer service is awesome (in addition to BS political involvement like Ruger). Besides it is a complete wanna-be clone of Kel-Tec... I am not one for copycats.

Just my 2 cents. But if you like Ruger and are a big fan use it. I am sure it is going to be a great firearm like so many others they make.

:)

EDIT: My trigger finger was not as fast as McGunner~
 
Wow, the keltec is "proven" yet the LCP is a "new design"????

How can it be one and not the other?? The LCP is the same design! Same operating system. Probably built with a little bit better materials, why would it NOT be proven? Is the Taurus PT1911 not a "proven design"?

Personally, I believe a LOT of people buy P32s because they don't trust the P3AT. I think the LCP is going to draw buyers away from the P32 and the P3AT. I have a P32 and I love it. I wanted a more powerful pocket gun but I really didn't trust the P3AT and I didn't care for the recoil. I WILL however be the first person at my gun shop to get a LCP. Better materials and slightly heavier/bigger. WIN WIN/WIN.
 
Copycat design does not guarantee copycat execution of the build. Ruger could be better/same/worse. Place your bets or wait-n-see.
 
Disclaimer: I've never owned or even fired a Kel-Tec

I read a lot about how fantastic KT's customer service is. It seems that more often than not, when someone mentions a KT, they also make mention of their customer service. That's great that a company backs its product with customer service, but on the other hand, wouldn't that mean that a lot of kel-tec owners have had to deal with their customer service? The old adage I suppose: The best customer service is the one you never have to call.

Not flaming kel-tec, just asking. To those of you who have, what is the nature of your dealings with Kel-Tec's CS?
 
I may pick one up to compare to my P3AT. My P3AT has been 100% since day one, but Ruger does have better name recognition with customers. The addition of a slide stop / slide release also interests me.
 
I want a P3AT or one of these new Rugers, definitely. With warmer months coming, I want something smaller than my Bersas or my HS2000 to conceal under light summer clothes.

I'm not sure which I'll go with yet. The P3AT is smaller than the Ruger, and they have the same ammo capacity. Keltec does have excellent customer service, but it seems that many Keltec owners who don't fluff and buff their guns end up having to use Keltec's generous warranty.

Then again... the P3AT has undergone minor changes since it was first released. I wonder how many of the problems are with the 1st gen P3AT and how many are with the 2nd gen P3AT. The fact that the P3AT has already undergone some revisions to cure its teething pains may be the deciding factor for me, despite the fact that Ruger has a reputation for reliability.
 
jon_in_wva said:
Wow, the keltec is "proven" yet the LCP is a "new design"????

How can it be one and not the other?? The LCP is the same design! Same operating system. Probably built with a little bit better materials, why would it NOT be proven? Is the Taurus PT1911 not a "proven design"?
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A proven design and a proven gun are two different things. Besides, the Ruger does use some different parts (the extractor is more like a Glock). If it was just a design issue, then every 1911-style pistol in the world would be equivalent -- but we all know that the maker has a lot to do with it.

Not to say that Ruger won't be turning out a good product, but jsut because it's a rip off...er, copy...of an existing design doesn't guarantee its performance.

Jim
 
Copycat design does not guarantee copycat execution of the build. Ruger could be better/same/worse. Place your bets or wait-n-see.
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Right on the money, I think a lot of people think ruger is going to magically take away all the problems that are inherent with tiny pocket guns. I hope they do but I really doubt it. Even dropping $1000 on the very well machined and top quality materials that go into a rohrbaugh still gets you a gun that may or may not work out of the box. I think its the price of the pocket gun and not a statement of keltec's quality.
 
I won't be buying the Ruger as I see it as a KT clone. Kind of wierd, true. However, I also have the P3AT which fulfills it's role as BUG most nicely. I see no need to spend more money on a Ruger even if the trigger is better.

BTW, got the opportunity to try the Ruger trigger. It's smoother than my P3ATs, which has easily 500 rounds through it.
 
I have never had to send my p32 in for service, neither has my friend who has the 9mm versions, FWIW.

People talk about the guarantee becuase you get so much flak over cheap guns. It is a polite way of saying "SHUT UP ABOUT HOW CHEAP MY GUN IS!"

This used to be Taurus' "tag line" in their ads.

Personally, I would rather give my money to a smaller company. I kind of hate it one a big company just swipes a smaller companies idea. Like what happend with the Glock. It came out, everyone called it junk, and then stole the design.

To me, the question is, What advantage will I have by giveing my money to Ruger as opposed to KelTec?

Best Wishes and good shooting.

Joe
 
Who will buy the Ruger? Lots of people in CA.

While Kel-Tec refuses to sell in CA (and I respectfully understand why), Ruger will.
 
P-32's can get rimlock. I'll stick with my P3AT, better round too. Plus I'll have a PF-9 soon to go with it.
 
KelTec is hardly the "little Guy"

http://www.shootingindustry.com/Pages/SpecRep3.html#top25

Take a look at these numbers and you might be a bit surprised. They aren't nearly as big as Ruger or Smith but they haven't been the little guy for quite a few years. Patents expire and that lets other manufacturers compete. Do all the 1911 owners on this board own Colts?? It's going to come down to quality for me. Ruger has a reputation for quality I think the LCP is oging to be really interesting. I already have one on order and I'll post a range report as soon as I get it.
 
While Kel-Tec refuses to sell in CA (and I respectfully understand why),
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Darn it, why did I have to read that? Now I'm even MORE tempted to go and buy that second P3AT (a hard chrome model this time) at my local place as a small way of saying 'you guys rock, thanks!' :D

As long as you know what you're getting into by buying a brand-new gun design from a company (IE, "beta tester"), then I say go for it. Your fellow shooters will appreciate it down the road when they get any 'kinks' ironed out thanks to feedback from people like you. I sure know I appreciate "those that have come before" that have enabled me to be able to go out and buy a P3AT that is 100% out of the box, without even a "fluff and buff." :cool:
 
A: It's a blatantly copied design.
B: It's Ruger.
C: What's the advantage over a P3AT?
D: It's Ruger.
 
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