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Man and here I thought that L1A1 with the custom Rem 700 .243 barrel, DSA optics mount and 10x scope was only good for shooting Zombies at extended ranges ya mean its good for deer too???? ;)

O.K so now answer me this if the L1A1 is now my deer rifle then what does the 7.62X51 Ishy enfield become cause that was my deer rifle before the L1a1 just got reclassified a few minutes ago........... so what should I call it now?
 
I think the object of gun purchasing is to enjoy the beauty and joy of ownership, I got 7 vehicles, each serve a different purpose (those kids all going to different schools). Each rifle I have might share caliber but I use for different hunting. Best example is my two Winchester Model 70's. Both are in 270 Win but one has a beautiful blueing and wood stock, the second is stainless steel and synthetic stock. Good weather, hunting out of a deer stand. the blued one goes. Bad weather, walking, rain or snow the synthetic goes. Both harvest deer and both are unique. Lastly, common calibers are smart if you reload.
 
I own 3 .308 rifles, (yes that was three) an Hk-91 for defense and 2 Enfield 2A's one tricked out with all the bells and whistles and one in stock condition, for its original unalterded looks and functionality, besides I will always have spare parts for either one of the Enfield's, and I do not think it was a waste of money either? I hunt, everything from rabbit to deer with the .308, all depends where you place your shots!
 
The .243 is Ideal for deer, drops em dead with the right load. I have never seen an armored deer. You really don't need a 7mm mag for em. The .243 is flat,flat,flat shooting but some people under rate this cartridge. Don't panic about wasting money it stimulates the economy.
 
wow, you all totally missed the point. i tried to make it more simple from the get-go, but lets see if i can re-explain myself.

i was merely pointing out that some people even when in a tight money situation, will make a bad choice buying a new gun that will do the same thing as another rifle he already has, even when he wants to do something else that he cant do with his existing guns.. when youre starting out, you should be trying to expant your versatility, across the board. why would you buy a rifle that does nothing more than what you have, if you also want a rifle for another purpose also?

and it never ceases to amase me how literally people on the internet will take things, and then procede to try to make people look stupid.
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Hey, you should have said that in your first post. We didn't miss the point, you failed to deliver it. What you said above doesn't look anything like your first post. Perhaps you should start this one over with better wording so we know what the real question is... ;)
 
"and it never ceases to amase me how literally people on the internet will take things, and then procede to try to make people look stupid."

I try to do all I can to minimize their opportunities, but it doesn't always work out.

John
 
What I don't understand is how all those people keep on wasting money on steaks when there's all those Ramen noodles they could be eating...
 
Maybe someone needs to help that poor guy out and educate him. There are a lot of people out there with guns. Most do a lot of reasearch before they buy. Others just rely on someone else to do the research for them. Then they just follow in their footsteps and repeat what they were told, not realizing that it was false information. Most likely he thinks he is making a good choice and a faily educated one at that. Remember you only learn through your mistakes. You only know you made one when someone tells you...
 
Isn't half the allure and fun of shooting being able to collect different firearms? At one time I was collecting WW2 era rifles and shooting them. Had nothing to do with need, it was just enjoyable having different rifles even if there wasn't any different use for them. Granted, if one has a limited budget, it would be good to get the gun that would be most versatile. But hey, if you got the bucks, go for it!
 
"Wasting money............"
what the heck? Maybe you need to quit wasting money on a internet service provider, you would get less madder..
Do you shop exclusively at the thrift/second hand store? or maybe only garage sales???
Pardon me for returning your question, normally I'd ignore inflammatory posters like yourself.
Take a long hard look at yourself before you start to throw any stones 'round here. EVERYONE lives in a glass house to some extent ~ I'm just trying to minimize the BB holes in my house > ;)
 
why would you buy a rifle that does nothing more than what you have, if you also want a rifle for another purpose also?
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Why not? If they have the money to do so, why even question other people's purchases?

Your solution would be to buy one accurate .30-'06 or .375 and not bother with any other rifles of different calibers that fall below its terminal performance?
 
Trueblue, actually very true when talking about commercial mass produced hunting rifles, however of over 4K military surplus rifles I can say that all have APPRECIATED in value one example being Chinese SKS rifles that I paid $45 ea for unissued new in the early 90s or the French Mas 36s I paid the same for but are now $200+ and then there are the mausers, I bought 12 full crested unissued Czech VZ24s in 2004 at $109 ea they have appreciated over 6 times their purchase price in just 3 years......

When it comes to firearms as investments, the mass produced commercial guns only fall in value but excellent to unissued milsurp rifles only climb in value and most are perfectly suitable for hunting anything in the world :D

Milsurplus acc. such as magazines even go up, I bought 200 Chinese 75 rnd drums new still sealed in the 90s at $10 ea they are now selling for up to $250 ea! A Russian AKM Parts set last week sold on Gunbroker for $2025.00 we bought 2000 of these kits not long ago at $11 each most identical or better than the one auctioned off............

here is the auction as its now closed

http://www.forthehunt.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=80154026

Military weapons, parts and accesaries are deffinetly a valid investment, both of my NFA registered Thompsons cost me $75 and $100 ea..... after 1986 they jumped to $25K ea :D
 
trueblue1776 said:
Investing in a product with a negative financial return.
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There is a true side to that coin but then again it all depends on what you buy. ;) I've a few old Winchesters and Springfields that have done nothing but increase in value. :)
 
So what you guys are getting at is; these "collectibles" are collectible? ;)

I was implying that the average Marlin/Remington/Rossi/etc. is not the equivalent of a Mickey Mantle baseball card. If kept in perfect condition, most likely they will still only be worth low retail (if that). Barring anything historically significant or of remarkably high quality.
 
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I was implying that the average Marlin/Remington/Rossi/etc. is not the equivalent of a Mickey Mantle baseball card. If kept in perfect condition, most likely they will still only be worth low retail (if that).
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Yup, the true side to the coin I mentioned.

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Barring anything historically significant or of remarkably high quality.
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The other side of the (collectible) coin. :)
 
If I could only have one rifle......I'd be very bored.

For years, I had one rifle, a .257 Roberts I inherited from my grandpa. Well, I had a .30-30 Savage M340 for a while, then sold it to my Uncle. I used that .257 when I went deer hunting...period. However, came the time I started thinking about New Mexico hunting. I decided if I were going to hunt elk, I needed a bigger gun. I bought a Savage in 7 mag. Now, the elk hunt fell through and the only thing I ever shot with that Savage was 4 whitetail and a New Mexico mulie. I spent 200 on that Savage and about 200 on scope and rings. I fell into a Weatherby 3x9x44 supreme sell out for 150, HECKUVA deal! Fantastic scope, compares with 400-500 dollar scopes.

So, then I had a .257 and a 7 mag. I had been reading about this Remington M7 stainless and really wanted one in .308, what I consider the perfect all around Texas/New Mexico hunting rifle/caliber combination. One day, I won a Remington BDL in .25-06 as the door prize of a local gun show I went to. I picked up the rifle and ran down the street to another gun shop to ask if they had a M7 stainless in .308 and would they consider a trade. They did, we did, and I had to spend 300 extra bucks on a scope and mounts, but I got my dream rifle and have hunted with it, killed multiple hogs, deer, and coyotes since then.

I also have a sporter SKS that's pretty worthless, but is fun at the range. I have a .357 lever carbine basically for the same reason. So, I feel I have three NICE rifles, very accurate, and can cover ANY hunting situation with that caliber selection from shooting prairie dogs (we don't have any) or coyotes with the .257 (or deer), to elk and larger game with the 7 mag and I pretty much have shelved both of those rifles for the last ten years because I have this perfect hunting rifle in the Remington M7 in .308. So, what's wrong with having even MORE rifles if you like rifles, are a rifleman, bury yourself in ballistics tables, what not???? Hey, don't like it? It ain't against the law to own more'n one gun, ya know. When it becomes such, I'll move.

BTW, for investment, go with milsurps. My 80 dollar Hakim is worth at least 400 bucks now, I'm told. Wish I'd bought a couple hundred of 'em. LOL I can tell ya this, if I made a lot more money, I'd have a lot more rifles, shotguns, handguns, .22s, milsurps, you name it.
 
I have 3 rifles each w/ a purpose
Ruger 77/22 in .22 mag
Rem 700 in .223
Arisaka in 6.5x50
I can not imagine what I would need more firepower for. Xcept maybe a mall Ninja.
Rifles are just tools in the hands of someone who should know how to best employ them. Far be it for me to tell someone else what to do.
 
I have rifles in 30-06, x39, x54r, .22, and .223. Thats just about covers it for anything I need it for, but what does it hurt to have more? I try my hardest to keep my calibers down, so I can just buy bulk in a few opposed to many, but if I see a purdy rifle in my gunshop that needs a home, then why not? Its my money.

I'd try not to get to worked up about it...There are way more important things to be thinking about other than people at the range wasting money.:)
 
While a .243 is an acceptable deer chambering...it's light-years from ideal. Pass. There are much better all-round decisions.
 
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