Welding a pitted firing pin hole on a Glock?

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David Sinko

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I have a beloved Glock 21 with a pitted firing pin hole on the breech face. This problem had been caused by pierced primers. The underlying cause has been remedied, but I'd like to fix the pitting. I'm guessing that it can be TIG welded and machined? I know a retired professional welder who should have the skill and equipment to do the welding. Are there any special steps or precautions that need to be taken? I'm inquiring mostly about potential heat damage. If I'm not mistaken, welding a pitted firing pin hole was a fairly common practice with a 1911 that had seen a lot of use with hot .38 Super ammo. Is there any reason a Glock should be any different to fix?
 
AFAIK, the Colt GM in .38 Super had the same kind of firing pin bushing the .45 had, so I would think replacing it would be easier than welding up the hole.

Regardless, with enough care and good heat sinks, I see no reason the Glock slide can't be welded. You can talk to your welder, but I think it would be hard to prevent the weld from extending back into the slide, and the firing pin hole would have to be re-drilled.

I don't know how bad the pitting is, but unless it affects reliability (I am not sure how), I would just let it be or, alternatively, talk to Glock; they might choose to replace the slide.

Jim
 
Drilling the firing pin hole would be tricky, they arent round.

I'm thinking contacting Glock may be a good idea rather than welding on the slide.

If it works as is without problem, it may be alright just to use it like JK said.
 
The pitting was substantial enough that the jagged edges would tear the softer Federal primers. I used Winchester primers for a while afterward and they actually smoothed out the sharp edges over time and now the Federal primers no longer tear. I guess you could say the problem ultimately took care of itself, except that I don't like looking at that crater around the firing pin hole.

I did take the gun to the Glock facility last time I was in Smyrna. The factory certified parts replacer simply shrugged his shoulders and said it will last as is for thousands of more rounds. The problem was my fault so I wasn't going to stand there and argue with the guy. In spite of it all, I'd like to have it fixed because I don't like looking at the jagged hole. As long as it doesn't cost too much, that is.
 
I'm not up to speed on this stuff regarding price, but just buying another slide may be simplest and most cost effective. I think I've seen slides for $100-ish range. Some buy custom slides and sell their factory ones.

I'd be somewhat reluctant to do any welding on a glock breech face. The have occasionally had the face break out in a cone shape from extensive dry firing. Welding right there may not be helpful in that sense. Or,...it could be fine and last longer than all of us.
 
The breechface is the absolute last thing I would consider welding on a handgun. Maybe the frame. The slide has careful heat treat and stress relieving done. Take a torch to that and you will need to have it re- treated and relieved again. I would replace the slide in that condition. The breechface is the only thing between your face and 20 or 30K pressures. Repeatedly.
 
Actually the front of the ejection port where the barrel locks into the slide is what keeps the slide from blowing off in your face.

Welding the firing pin hole safely with a TIG is doable.

But as was mentioned by Malumute in post #3 is the deal breaker.

The firing pin hole in a Glock isn't round, so you can't just drill it after welding it.

And it's too small & too deep from either end it mill it out with a tiny end ill.

Contact Glock about a replacement slide.

rc
 
So how does Glock install the rectangular firing pin hole in the slide? Is it broached? EDM cut? My welder said welding it would be easy but he also pointed out the rectangular hole and said it would be a "challenge."
 
You can try to work out the details to save money, but unless the work is free, a comparison of the cost of the work, and the cost of a slide, new or used, would be added on top of that if it doesnt work out. My apologies if I'm missing the mark, but trying to cheap out on an important part isnt always real economy.

A couple of your comments come to mind,

I'm inquiring mostly about potential heat damage.

Other mention this, and you dont seem to want to give it much credence. Call Glock and ask, though they have looked at it and told you it will be OK as is.

The problem was my fault

As above, you ask opinions, and dont like the answers. If it was your fault, and they way it is bothers you, you can have questionable work done, or just step up to the plate and deal with it by buying a new or used replacement part. Glocks arent 1911's. 1911 breech faces dont chip out, glocks sometimes do. I'd seriously be hesitant to have welding done on a glock breech face. Its your gun, however, and you are free to do whatever you want with it. I'd not feel good about ever selling it in that condition even if it seems to work in the near term. You may choose never to sell it, but if you drop dead, nobody else may know about it when it gets sold off with your worldly possessions.

So how does Glock install the rectangular firing pin hole in the slide? Is it broached? EDM cut?

I dont know how they form the firing pin channel, but they'll sell you a perfectly good example for likely a pretty reasonable price, or a good used one can likely be had for a fair bit less.
 
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