What 22 LR Semi Auto do you think is the best?
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I voted Marlin 60. I am only recently becoming familiar with the 10-22, and like it so far. The reason I keep sticking with the model 60 variants is because you never have an issue with the mags and you can't lose the mag either.
Marlin Model 60 (in my case a 995) those microgroove barrels are VERY accurate.
I will grant the 10/22 has a better magazine. I think the model 60 is more accurate (standard model to standard model.)
I thought about voting for the Browning take down model, accurate but slow to load.
I will grant the 10/22 has a better magazine. I think the model 60 is more accurate (standard model to standard model.)
I thought about voting for the Browning take down model, accurate but slow to load.
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I'm torn here. I've owned three 10-22s, two good, one a real stinker, a Model 60, a Nylon 66, and a Marlin 795.
The 60 was my very first, and I shot the snot out of it in my teens and twenties, so I'll always look at it favorably. That said, I'm not a fan of tube magazines for safety and would prefer a removable box mag instead.
I wish I could like the Ruger more, but for me, it never 'fit' right for me, and I was never into the tacti-cool thing like some folks are.
I won't speak much of the 66 other than to say I enjoyed shooting and handling the one I (briefly)owned, but as with the 60, there's the tube mag safety issues mentioned before. They have their place and advantages over box mags, but I go back to the safety issue again.
Based on the list, form factor, and price of base unit and peripheral gear, the 795 is probably the best for me in this category.
You'll notice I don't include the AR-7,of which I've owned four. While I had one good one, none come close overall to any of the other rifles listed, because their only real advantage is their one-trick take-down and storage ability, which while handy and desirable in some circumstances, overall, they were crappy rifles accuracy and reliability wise in my experience.
The 60 was my very first, and I shot the snot out of it in my teens and twenties, so I'll always look at it favorably. That said, I'm not a fan of tube magazines for safety and would prefer a removable box mag instead.
I wish I could like the Ruger more, but for me, it never 'fit' right for me, and I was never into the tacti-cool thing like some folks are.
I won't speak much of the 66 other than to say I enjoyed shooting and handling the one I (briefly)owned, but as with the 60, there's the tube mag safety issues mentioned before. They have their place and advantages over box mags, but I go back to the safety issue again.
Based on the list, form factor, and price of base unit and peripheral gear, the 795 is probably the best for me in this category.
You'll notice I don't include the AR-7,of which I've owned four. While I had one good one, none come close overall to any of the other rifles listed, because their only real advantage is their one-trick take-down and storage ability, which while handy and desirable in some circumstances, overall, they were crappy rifles accuracy and reliability wise in my experience.
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Have to go with the one I know the best (and the longest): the Ruger 10/22. With the Weaver K2.5 scope and Wolf Match Target ammo capable of some very decent accuracy at 100 yards.
tark
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Remington 550-1, hands down. Eats everything from CB caps to 22 low velocity to shorts to everything else. Flawless functioning. No other 22 auto even comes close.
The 10-22 has all the goodies, so you can make it about anything you want it to be. I agree it's way over-priced today, but people continue to buy them. Non-target barrels can be somewhat inaccurate, but the target model barrels are usually very good. After-market barrels can be super-good. I only have one, but am considering getting another. The walnut stock (no barrel band) is best for accurizing, IMHO.
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22250Rem
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Voted 10/22 because I've had one since 1997 and really like it. But those Marlin Model 60's have always impressed me also and years ago I got a lot of trigger time with my buddies Model 60 and I was planning on getting one until I came across a "can't turn it down" deal on the 10/22 that now lives in my safe.
TN Outlaw
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Rem 550-1
CZ 512
Ruger 10/22
Rem 552
Glenfield mod 60
Rem 597
Everything else
CZ 512
Ruger 10/22
Rem 552
Glenfield mod 60
Rem 597
Everything else
kBob
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Gunny, are you trying to give me blood pressure issues?
BTW folks the MSRP listed in the gun annuals in 1989 for a 10/22 was $176 so some folks got some good deals if they got a new one for less than $100 or even $120 later.
Ok as to what is best.....well I had a lot of fun with an HK51 and some G3s with HK .22 Adaptors in them.
But that is not best when applied to every use.
Marlin 60 series are neat guns.....but lot of small springs and such to keep happy and that one and only tube magazine waiting to get bent. You feel like you are dealing with a muzzle loader when you reload.....
Nylon 66? Dream rifle of my youth. Then I grew up. Man I love their lack of weight. The sights have potential, if you can find a screw driver small enough to deal with the windage. Love the way the tube magazine is protected by the but stock sort of like the Browning take down. Once I got to appreciate accuracy and had the chance to shoot the Nylon along side other rifles though I understood why some of y buds with Nylons shot in "bursts" when I shot single shots...they figured that if they shot enough one bullet was bound to hit what they were aiming at! Used on for a trunk gun in the Yugo the car's whole six year life (totaled in a T bone acciedent, rifle came through fine) .
Ah, the Browning! Now there is a "Q T" shoot I even liked the Norinco ATD and the spousal unit wants a Browning or a nice looking ATD I can gussy up. Very accurate.....until the ring screwing things together unexplicably loosens up and you zero from last week means nothing. Shoot just tighten it back down and re zero, maybe you will gt another shot at that chicken steeling raccoon next week. Biggest issue for me was the very bottom ejection my wife likes. Old three position shooters tend to want to get their suppoer hand back and elbow under the gun.....the perfect spot for catching hot .22 brass. But that is me. so are my opinions.
I love my old CLick Clack Savage, even more since finding a late model adult stock on line. it is more accurate than the Nylon 66 and the ability to "turn off the semi auto" by locking the bolt closed between shots helped prevent me developing a taste for spray and pray. It shoots shorts and longs (if you can find any these days, and it was nice when you could and they wee cheaper than LR) and Longrifle from subsonic target loads up through the hottest light weights. Even hand cycles and sometimes semi auto crimped rat shot and CB Longs ( I generally avoid the temptation of trying semi auto with high failure rate by using the bolt lock). Still it has that tube magazine hanging out waiting to be crushed and I feel like Dan'l Boone reloading.
Also it ain't on the list.
I understand the New AR7s from Henry are better than the original Armalite and MUCH better than the Charters. For tossing in the back of the two seater (plane or car or little rice burner pick'em up truck) and basically forgetting while stowed they are hard to beat. That is about the best one can say for then though. Beats not having a .22 semi auto at all.
I was very late coming on the 10/22 for myself. It only cycles with .22LR ammo. I have single loaded from the magazine CB Longs and some times they want to cycle bad enough to jam things up if one does not block bolt movement ententonally. Of course I do not remember the last time I saw shorts or longs on a store counter at a hardware store or wally world, dicks or whatever.Stock on the carbines is a little short for 6'2" Moosoids, but do able. Barrel band is a nuisance, but it comes off or can be relieved to allow the barrel to free float. Magazines? well if I ever do have an issue that was not caused by someone taking one apart and putting it together wrong I will destroy it and use one of the other nine. Wally world and other occasionally cary spare mags on wire rack mounts in the Sporting goods department. I find a mag occasionally at a gun show. Oddly I never see spare mag tubes or follower tubes for the tube feeders anywhere other than the catalogs for parts houses.
The sights? No worse than any other .22 OTC standard rifle. Drift adjust able for windage and teenie tiny screw driver (maybe the one for windage on your Nylon) for elevation.......or better yet one of the after market aperatures. Scope mounting? New rifle comes with a mount and screws for it and they are about $12 if you have a used rifle or lost yours. As much as I like having tip off grooves in my older guns the 10/22 looks and feels better in the field without a scope and is easy enough to put a mount on if you want glass.
But what abut accuracy? Minute of Good Enough. There was a time before the rise of gun magazines in this country when three inch groups at 100 yards were considered pretty fine shooting. How much better is a one MOA gun in the hands of a guy that can not hold three inches at 50 yard from the stand over a three MOA gun in the hands of a guy that shoots the same sized fifty yard groups? And are any guns listed here true One MOA guns? Who shoots their general purpose .22 in the 100 yard out door rimfire matches? I have never had a 10/22 that shot as bad as 3 MOA anyway. Shoot the stock barreled stock bolted kbob trigger job and tech sites one I used in an Appleseed shot as well at 25 meters as my Colt HBAR at that range....what do you want?
With the Ruger there are things I can do to make things better, from actually filing and stoning trigger parts to simply dropping in new parts. I have about a bigillion stock options. Shoot even swapping barrels if I have too is easy peasy.....and yest I have a basically unused carbine barrel out in the shop ( changing the barrel would be easier than even recrowning if I dropped a 10/22 on the muzzle)
So I am voting 10/22.
-kBob
BTW folks the MSRP listed in the gun annuals in 1989 for a 10/22 was $176 so some folks got some good deals if they got a new one for less than $100 or even $120 later.
Ok as to what is best.....well I had a lot of fun with an HK51 and some G3s with HK .22 Adaptors in them.
But that is not best when applied to every use.
Marlin 60 series are neat guns.....but lot of small springs and such to keep happy and that one and only tube magazine waiting to get bent. You feel like you are dealing with a muzzle loader when you reload.....
Nylon 66? Dream rifle of my youth. Then I grew up. Man I love their lack of weight. The sights have potential, if you can find a screw driver small enough to deal with the windage. Love the way the tube magazine is protected by the but stock sort of like the Browning take down. Once I got to appreciate accuracy and had the chance to shoot the Nylon along side other rifles though I understood why some of y buds with Nylons shot in "bursts" when I shot single shots...they figured that if they shot enough one bullet was bound to hit what they were aiming at! Used on for a trunk gun in the Yugo the car's whole six year life (totaled in a T bone acciedent, rifle came through fine) .
Ah, the Browning! Now there is a "Q T" shoot I even liked the Norinco ATD and the spousal unit wants a Browning or a nice looking ATD I can gussy up. Very accurate.....until the ring screwing things together unexplicably loosens up and you zero from last week means nothing. Shoot just tighten it back down and re zero, maybe you will gt another shot at that chicken steeling raccoon next week. Biggest issue for me was the very bottom ejection my wife likes. Old three position shooters tend to want to get their suppoer hand back and elbow under the gun.....the perfect spot for catching hot .22 brass. But that is me. so are my opinions.
I love my old CLick Clack Savage, even more since finding a late model adult stock on line. it is more accurate than the Nylon 66 and the ability to "turn off the semi auto" by locking the bolt closed between shots helped prevent me developing a taste for spray and pray. It shoots shorts and longs (if you can find any these days, and it was nice when you could and they wee cheaper than LR) and Longrifle from subsonic target loads up through the hottest light weights. Even hand cycles and sometimes semi auto crimped rat shot and CB Longs ( I generally avoid the temptation of trying semi auto with high failure rate by using the bolt lock). Still it has that tube magazine hanging out waiting to be crushed and I feel like Dan'l Boone reloading.
Also it ain't on the list.
I understand the New AR7s from Henry are better than the original Armalite and MUCH better than the Charters. For tossing in the back of the two seater (plane or car or little rice burner pick'em up truck) and basically forgetting while stowed they are hard to beat. That is about the best one can say for then though. Beats not having a .22 semi auto at all.
I was very late coming on the 10/22 for myself. It only cycles with .22LR ammo. I have single loaded from the magazine CB Longs and some times they want to cycle bad enough to jam things up if one does not block bolt movement ententonally. Of course I do not remember the last time I saw shorts or longs on a store counter at a hardware store or wally world, dicks or whatever.Stock on the carbines is a little short for 6'2" Moosoids, but do able. Barrel band is a nuisance, but it comes off or can be relieved to allow the barrel to free float. Magazines? well if I ever do have an issue that was not caused by someone taking one apart and putting it together wrong I will destroy it and use one of the other nine. Wally world and other occasionally cary spare mags on wire rack mounts in the Sporting goods department. I find a mag occasionally at a gun show. Oddly I never see spare mag tubes or follower tubes for the tube feeders anywhere other than the catalogs for parts houses.
The sights? No worse than any other .22 OTC standard rifle. Drift adjust able for windage and teenie tiny screw driver (maybe the one for windage on your Nylon) for elevation.......or better yet one of the after market aperatures. Scope mounting? New rifle comes with a mount and screws for it and they are about $12 if you have a used rifle or lost yours. As much as I like having tip off grooves in my older guns the 10/22 looks and feels better in the field without a scope and is easy enough to put a mount on if you want glass.
But what abut accuracy? Minute of Good Enough. There was a time before the rise of gun magazines in this country when three inch groups at 100 yards were considered pretty fine shooting. How much better is a one MOA gun in the hands of a guy that can not hold three inches at 50 yard from the stand over a three MOA gun in the hands of a guy that shoots the same sized fifty yard groups? And are any guns listed here true One MOA guns? Who shoots their general purpose .22 in the 100 yard out door rimfire matches? I have never had a 10/22 that shot as bad as 3 MOA anyway. Shoot the stock barreled stock bolted kbob trigger job and tech sites one I used in an Appleseed shot as well at 25 meters as my Colt HBAR at that range....what do you want?
With the Ruger there are things I can do to make things better, from actually filing and stoning trigger parts to simply dropping in new parts. I have about a bigillion stock options. Shoot even swapping barrels if I have too is easy peasy.....and yest I have a basically unused carbine barrel out in the shop ( changing the barrel would be easier than even recrowning if I dropped a 10/22 on the muzzle)
So I am voting 10/22.
-kBob
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I’m still up in the air on which way to vote, which depends on my thinking about best.
I’ve always wanted the T/C. Still haven’t come across one at the right time and price but they have a cult like following and I suspect there’s some reasoning behind that.
Mom has an SA-22, Japanese not Belgian, and that rifle is a joy to tote around, shoots accurately out of the box, and with good looks to boot.
I curse every time I open up a Model 60. I don’t curse much. I curse a lot when I open up a Model 60. I’ve seen broken trigger guards, worked on gritty triggers, and spent far too much time looking for e-clips. But it’s accurate and with a little maintenance it’s very reliable.
Despite their wallowed out chambers and V-blocks leading to iffy accuracy, despite nasty triggers, and despite the clanging noise of cycling, I still much prefer the 10/22 to other autoloaders when it comes to working on them. They can be accurized with effort or money, depending on your preference, and with all of the aftermarket magazines I get that shooting gallery sort of feeling when plinking.
I guess if I were voting with my own dollars the 10/22 is my answer, though I know in my head that calling it best on that list is woefully wrong.
I’ve always wanted the T/C. Still haven’t come across one at the right time and price but they have a cult like following and I suspect there’s some reasoning behind that.
Mom has an SA-22, Japanese not Belgian, and that rifle is a joy to tote around, shoots accurately out of the box, and with good looks to boot.
I curse every time I open up a Model 60. I don’t curse much. I curse a lot when I open up a Model 60. I’ve seen broken trigger guards, worked on gritty triggers, and spent far too much time looking for e-clips. But it’s accurate and with a little maintenance it’s very reliable.
Despite their wallowed out chambers and V-blocks leading to iffy accuracy, despite nasty triggers, and despite the clanging noise of cycling, I still much prefer the 10/22 to other autoloaders when it comes to working on them. They can be accurized with effort or money, depending on your preference, and with all of the aftermarket magazines I get that shooting gallery sort of feeling when plinking.
I guess if I were voting with my own dollars the 10/22 is my answer, though I know in my head that calling it best on that list is woefully wrong.
MedWheeler
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This was tough. Ultimately, I picked the 10/22 for its versatility and options. I'd never pick the Mossberg 702 as "best overall', but what an impressive value mine is.
I also have two vintage Marlin 99M1 carbines and a Glenfield 75 that get a lot of respect. But the 10/22, as a "platform" as a whole, gets my vote.
I also have two vintage Marlin 99M1 carbines and a Glenfield 75 that get a lot of respect. But the 10/22, as a "platform" as a whole, gets my vote.
If you can get one, I recommend it. This is one of mine (I have two, both of them threaded for a suppressor):
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If not for the complexity of stripping and cleaning the Marlin 60, it would have my vote. That being said, I voted for the 10/22. With the right ammo, the Marlin 60 is comparatively very accurate
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kBob
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Dang!
As of this post 10/22 out numbers all other choices combined and it's closest competitor by over three to one.
Golly Gee Willikers, Mister Peabody, those Rugers must be awful!
-kBob
As of this post 10/22 out numbers all other choices combined and it's closest competitor by over three to one.
Golly Gee Willikers, Mister Peabody, those Rugers must be awful!
-kBob
midland man
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I bought a ruger 10-22 in stainless on clearance for $199 last year. and it is a super fine rifle! 
but also bought a henry goldenboy 22mag here a couple weeks back and I am in love with it!!
but also bought a henry goldenboy 22mag here a couple weeks back and I am in love with it!! doubleh
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I voted for the Browning as nothing else in the poll comes close to it-----IMO------- straight from the manufacturer. Your opinion may differ.
Also again, in IMO, the 10/22 is no great shakes as it comes from the factory but when you start building a custom 22 nothing comes close to it. It can be turned into a really fine rifle. All is takes is money but if you have certain skills that can be reuduced. If the post had said "the most customizable 22 semi-auto rifle" I would have chosen the 10/22.
I've never been able to find any love for the Marlin Mod. 60 although I've tried. My son-in-law has a S&W 15/22. It's a jam-o-mantic so no interest there. All the others are OK with the Thompson Center topping the list of those----again just my opinion.
Also again, in IMO, the 10/22 is no great shakes as it comes from the factory but when you start building a custom 22 nothing comes close to it. It can be turned into a really fine rifle. All is takes is money but if you have certain skills that can be reuduced. If the post had said "the most customizable 22 semi-auto rifle" I would have chosen the 10/22.
I've never been able to find any love for the Marlin Mod. 60 although I've tried. My son-in-law has a S&W 15/22. It's a jam-o-mantic so no interest there. All the others are OK with the Thompson Center topping the list of those----again just my opinion.
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LiveLife
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I voted 10/22 and enjoy my Take Down model.
BUT I find myself enjoying my ARs with CMMG 22LR bolt conversions more and more.
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