What country has most firearm freedoms?

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I'm thinking of doing some international travel, and maybe working overseas some. Any thoughts on countries to travel to or live in that are gun friendly? I find so much conflicting info in my internet searches. I was hoping someone here has some experience in this area.

It would be nice to at least keep my current level of freedom, which is CCW and almost unlimited firearm choices given the right amount of money.

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There is NO country I can think of that even comes close to US of A!!!

Some Euro countries are not as bad as some folks think but the hoops and hurdles are more than evident.

Leave home? - be prepared to forgo almost all your gun rights as we enjoy them.
 
I would say Switzerland....better in some ways, not so good in others. I also hear they are in a downward slide as far as gun rights go.

Also, probably some embattled Eastern European countries that haven't been sucked into the euro-socialist gun-ban vortex yet.

Not counting lawless African countries.

I'm guessing the biggest problem you'd have would be importing/exporting your weapons.

Good topic.
 
Israel is a non starter since they have very strict gun laws. The law regulates everyone to at most two firearms. A long arm and a handgun. The only people that can apply for a license to own are people who are retired from the military or police forces, current reservist(large % of the population of Israel), gun dealers, bus drivers, and jewlers.

http://www.jpfo.org/israel-firearms.htm

Switerzland, Norway, Sweden and Finland have large populations of gun owners. But recently those countries are treading towards complete civilan disarmament. Also getting a license in those countries is a difficult, time consuming process.
 
Iraq

In Iraq you can have anything you want, as long as you are willing shell out alot of cash(for an Iraqi), or dig it out of the ground. It also helps to be part of an militia. None of it is legal because at the behest of our esteem military leaders, Iraqi law has recently changed to ban all civilan gun ownership.
 
Somalia. You can carry whatever you want. Just don't expect to come through the airport. Slip in over the border and make your own rules.
 
In some Eastern European countries your freedom to own firearms is only limited by your budget, which simply must accomodate various permit fees (cough cough).

It's not perfect, but at least those who want have a possibility to get, 'legally'.

For the record most former comblok peoples I talk to are pretty down to Earth in regards to firearms and self-defence. My Bulgarian land-lady was a little nervous about our neighbour loading 'sniper rifles' into his car, but every one of them KNEW on an instinctual level that they wanted to be able to defend themselves or their homes.
 
A friend of mine came back from Africa several months ago. He was asked by his cab driver if he wanted any AK-47's. The price was $25 US per rifle new in the box/4 per case. He said he couldn't believe it. He stated that any type of goods were hard to get over there. One could exchange one's watch for a handfull of diamonds or gold.
 
I'm not an expert on Phillipines firearm law, but I believe they have full-auto ownership for their citizens. They don't have the same variety of "gun culture" that we have but I think they may have more lax gun legislation.

However, as a stranger in a strange land, I wouldn't count on many places honouring my ccw if I were you....
 
A friend of mine came back from Africa several months ago. He was asked by his cab driver if he wanted any AK-47's. The price was $25 US per rifle new in the box/4 per case. He said he couldn't believe it. He stated that any type of goods were hard to get over there. One could exchange one's watch for a handfull of diamonds or gold.
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I guess it depends on what kind of watch he's wearing!

But it sounds like he's telling tall tails. NIB AKs can't sell for $25 @. That must be close to their production cost.
 
Originally posted by Rem700SD
I'm not an expert on Phillipines firearm law, but I believe they have full-auto ownership for their citizens. They don't have the same variety of "gun culture" that we have but I think they may have more lax gun legislation.
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Yes, and yes.
However, private firearm ownership here is technically a privilege, not a right.
Firearms and ammo (even Philippine-made) cost more over here than there,
due to ridiculous tariffs.

Dunno about gun culture ... I mean, they're just guns, right?
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The United States of America allows its Filipino permanent residents to KBA.
The Philippines shamefully does not return the favor, save to diplomats.
 
Doesn't look good. Same thing my research was coming up with. I just figured there must be another country with more firearm freedom than the US. We gripe about our situations here like, but we are making progress. I hope we can return this country to the pre 1930's version with respect to freedom.
 
WRT Eastern Europe, my wife is a very recent immigrant from Ukraine. According to her, it is possible to own guns in Ukraine; they even have a gun store in her home town. There're some legal hoops to jump through and the guns (by their standards) are expensive but they can own rifles, shotguns, and handguns.
Incidentally, it is one of the tropes of gunboards that soldiers in the USSR were illiterate, poorly trained, and not very good shots. The Kalashnikov, it is said, was designed to compensate for all that. Let me tell you something, my wife_and all her relatives that I've met in this country_were all trained on the AK in middle school! All of them, to this day, are excellent shots and know how to handle a Kalashnikov, a Simonov (as they call the SKS), and a Makarov. I think our concept of what the average Red Army conscript was like may be a bit off.
 
I think our concept of what the average Red Army conscript was like may be a bit off.
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From what I have read they had reasonable good skills at basic marksmanship, but lacked a lot of other things that a modern army needs, especially well trained, experienced and motivated NCOs and junior officers.

I read once that in the Red Army, the vast majority of NCOs were themselves conscripts who had gone to a special school after the Red Army equivalent of boot camp. Most left the army after their enlistment was up.
 
As far as I know base on my current experience, NO, ordinary citizens cannot legally own full-auto firearms in the Philippines. Those that have them which are many specially those that have connection with the military or NPA are illigal. I never saw full-auto displayed in any guns store I have been to. Its absence is obvious.
As far as gun culture? Heck, Philippine population is probably more pro-gun than the US. I bet the Philippines is the only country in the world that practice "bootlegged firearms" (homemade firearms). I also know a lot of small time farmer have bootlegged firearms since they cannot afford commercially made firearms.
 
I have a friend who has a co-worker that lives in the Philippines and it has stated that your "rights" depend on how much money you have. This guy is rich even by our standards and owns dozens of machine guns. This seems to be the case in many countries like Costa Rica, which states in many web sites that CCW is not possible, however Gabe Suarez told me you can get the permit. As he put it, you will need to "do business" with the guy that has the power to give you the permit.

In these "under developed" nations you pay cops, and officials, whereas in the US we pay attorneys. Either way you pay.
 
Resign yourself to the fact that the question of gun ownership has long been decided in most countries, in favour of rigid control. The United States is the aberration, not the normal.
And for non-resident aliens, expect even less slack.
 
As far as I know base on my current experience, NO, ordinary citizens cannot legally own full-auto firearms in the Philippines. Those that have them which are many specially those that have connection with the military or NPA are illigal. I never saw full-auto displayed in any guns store I have been to. Its absence is obvious.
As far as gun culture? Heck, Philippine population is probably more pro-gun than the US. I bet the Philippines is the only country in the world that practice "bootlegged firearms" (homemade firearms). I also know a lot of small time farmer have bootlegged firearms since they cannot afford commercially made firearms.
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If you visit the BoG forum at GT, you may find plenty of private owners of
M4's and the occasional select M14. Pics too. One of the current threads is
actually speculation on new licensing procedures for such firearms.

I won't deny that law enforcement is doing all it can to prevent private citizens
from possessing automatic weapons as permitted by law (E.O.194 of 2000).
Frankly, I find full-auto overrated and too costly to enjoy.

I guess that it's the principle of freedom, as well as the lure of the forbidden
that has worked full-auto up to such desirability. After all, Norinco 1911's
seem to be valued in the U.S., whereas here where they are plentiful they
place a far second in sales to more expensive Armscor.

The United States remains the country with the most firearm freedoms,
because they are based on right and not privilege.

Cheers.
:)

horge
 
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