What country has most firearm freedoms?

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he introduced me to his best friend. went down to basement.

aks, smgs, full auto, GRENADES, everything.

Any possibility that the friend worked for the Bulgarian mafia?

I think there was a thread here on the Phillipines a while back and it was
documented that they can own anything short of explosive projecticles.
Likewise, the Pakistanis really could care less what their fellow Pakistani
owns --including nades.

Sorry, guys, the US does not have the most firearm freedoms.
 
Switerzland, Norway, Sweden and Finland have large populations of gun owners. But recently those countries are treading towards complete civilan disarmament. Also getting a license in those countries is a difficult, time consuming process.
Finland has registration of guns and licensing of ownership, but they have had this for some time. As of 2003, Finland had a higher rate of firearms ownership than the US (50% of households, as opposed to 41% in the US). The shooting/hunting culture in Finland has very deep roots. I don't think you can accurately say that they are "trending towards complete civilian disarmament."

I would say that the heavily-regulated aspect of Finnish gun ownership has more to do with a different concept of the relationship of government and citizens. To put it bluntly, there is more of an acceptance of authority in Finland, for better AND for worse: They have been rated the most productive and the least corrupt society in the world, but foreign visitors (and some Finns) find that the degree of conformity can be stifling.

Can you tell I am of Finnish ancestry?
 
God bless you Finns.

The Philippines can only claim 5% of its population being so armed. Roughly.
If one includes unlicensed firearm estimates, it might go up to 9%, maybe.
 
more of an acceptance of authority in Finland, for better AND for worse
A lot like Singapore. Absolutely beautiful, safe, 1st world Island nation. I felt safer there than in any other city I've been to in the US. The price for the high standard of living and safety is stifling laws, high taxes (fees) and you do not want to experience the criminal justice system. They accept it because the alternative (which isn't good;) ) is right accross the channel in Malaysia. Also have mandatory military service. I never asked about gun ownership, but would be surprised at anything other than a 100% ban.
 
Thanks Mildot. I can find him on the net. Honduras seems a good place to visit, and the country is sure beautiful from the photos on the internet.
 
I think to in a lot of countries while you may have more hoops to go through, goverment involvment, and it being treated much mroe as a privlidge then a right, there are a good bit of countries that have more freedoms.

Like owning silencers and what not. In general and all around the board I think the USA is still the top. But there are areas where it lacks way behind and other countries that go way ahead of us.
 
Hmmm...it might be worth my while going to Finland. I could finally get some proper guns and also be in a Chav-free society.
How long does it take to get a license?
 
Hmmm...it might be worth my while going to Finland. I could finally get some proper guns and also be in a Chav-free society.
How long does it take to get a license?
There's info here about licenses, but it doesn't say how long or whether you need to be a citizen.

I am an American of Finnish descent, so I don't know the Finnish laws firsthand. I do know that there are some additional restrictions, for example, pistols with a barrel less than 10cm need a special permit, as do full-auto weapons, etc.
 
From what I have heard, Turkey has very few gun laws. As I understand the history, Turkey (actually the Ottoman Empire at the time) instituted extensive gun control policies in the mid-19th century. Over the next 50 years, their Armenian Christian in particular was disarmed. As a result, when they were rounded up in 1915-1917 they were unable to effectively resist, and the Armenian Genocide resulted--up to 1.5 million were slaughtered.

When the Turkish republic was established, they apparently decided very sensibly that the best way to prevent future abuses was to allow the population the means to properly defend themselves.

Of course, Turkish firearms rights are under attack from the usual suspects. The recent offensive started when a 2 year-old from the UK was killed in the crossfire of a drunken bar fight. Of course, being British his parents sadly predictably began calling for gun control rather than responsible use or criminal control. And of course IANSA has gotten in on the circus as well.
 
Hmmm...it might be worth my while going to Finland. I could finally get some proper guns and also be in a Chav-free society.
How long does it take to get a license?

Depending on where you live, from several minutes to couple weeks. My latest license took 3 days.
 
Mika,

What is legal with proper licenses in Finland?

Do you have Concealed weapons permits, Machine guns, silencers, other weapons etc?
 
Mika,

What is legal with proper licenses in Finland?

Do you have Concealed weapons permits, Machine guns, silencers, other weapons etc?

Pretty much everything, excluding CCW. Machine guns can be owned if you are a long term gun collecter and have a official gun collector license. Silencers are completely un-regulated.

Here's a decent article about our gun laws.
 
Better Question - which state in the USA

I think a better question is which state (s) in the USA have the most freedoms if you level the playing field: permits/open carry/shall issue/stand your ground/etc.
 
The state of things in Czech Republic.

I don't believe anyone wrote about the situation in Czech Republic... which is pretty good, imho. You can't carry without a CCW permit. And to get one, you need to demonstrate that you need it for your job (private eye, security, cop, etc), or somehow convince the officer in charge of issuing them.
You get into serious trouble, if you shoot and kill an unarmed physically not inferior person, even at your property. "Reasonable defence" is a hotly argued topic right now..
there are some precedents in favour of it, but given the lack of crime, it's not serious.

On to firearms.

Firearms are divided by law into several categories..
I won't enumerate them exactly, as I have not yet bothered with getting my weapon permit.. (not lazyiness, but first I get a DSLR camera, then a .22LR Margolina pistol, then a K100 pistol, then a select fire sa.vz 58, and after that, six years in the future maybe some precision H&K semi auto rifle, or AR-15, or Dragunov).

First category is at max 2shot muzzleloaders, crossbows, airguns. You need to be over 18 to buy those weapons and their ammo. Then there is a category of cumbersome .22Lr pistols, long repeating rifles, shotguns, muzzleloading revolvers.. You need at least a hunter's weapon permit to buy guns of that category, and you don't have to apply for a permit before buying a gun from that category.

Next category are pistols, revolvers, semi-auto rifles and shotguns.*
Before buying one, you need to apply for a permit at the local police department.
(I think you get it right away or wait at max three days).

Military weapons, that is all full auto guns including machineguns of up to .50 cal are only available to people with both a collector's weapon permit (not hard to get), and a necessary extemption for every full auto weapon from the department of the interior. In some places, it's easier to get it than in others, but mostly you need to prove to the department, that you are a sane adult in good financial standing, have a gun safe
(though I think you legally need one only if you own more than 5 guns of any type).
I also bet that if you were Muslim (very rare*) or gypsy, you won't get one. Czech police is corrupt, but not stupid, and machineguns are taken seriously.
I hasten to add that it's not expensive getting all those permits.. only a bit of time, and some token sum (20-30$) for the papers for each gun.

Silencers are gov't (and underworld. And everyone who can machine metal and has the guts to try it) only. Though maybe that'll change, the gun owners, though a relatively small community are quite vocal & reasonable.

*Islam has no chance in Bohemia. The national dish is roast pork with dumplings and sauerkraut, and mostly downed with some good lager, like the real Budweiser.
70% of Czechs are godless atheists, agnostics, and most educated people are supporters of a conservative, anti-multiculturalist party. Plus, there is a history of ethnic cleansing.. before WWII, 1.5 million Germans lived in Bohemia. Now, maybe 50 K. (only those who took part in the resistance were allowed to stay).

If you have all the paperwork in order, you can buy vintage MG-34 machineguns for
1000$, sa.vz 58's for 150$, vintage PPsh for cca 300$, etc, etc. Ammo is expensive though.. cheapest .22LR is 30 to a $, 7.62x39 is 4 to a $, and so on. If you don't believe me, check out www.bvs.cz .

There are virtually no anti gun lobbies, and not many deaths from guns*. Violent crime is quite uncommon, and there are very few places where any adult male has to be afraid to go even at night. No war on drugs either..
*The only really obnoxious minority, gypsies, are too lazy and cowardly to be dangerous violent criminals. Czech mafia is remarkably stealthy, circumspect and civilized.. no drive by shootings and such barbaric acts. Last time someone tried to arrange a hit on a journalist, the hitman cooperated with the police.. and there was much rejoicing :D...

I'll probably write about the process of getting a permit when I decide to apply for it, though first I have to apply for a permanent residence here in Prague.. I am originally from Slovakia and I can't apply for a permit without having residency here. I don't want to apply for it back home, it's more inconvenient, as I am a student here, and I would probably have to fudge a few psychological tests..
(Slovakia != Slovenia, and no, it was never seriously devastated by war since the Mongol invasion in 1200's. Even WWII eastern front just swiftly passed). If you wonder about language, the differences between Czech and Slovak are similar to those between 16th century and contemporary English. With little effort, one can almost master it. Most Czechs can't tell I am Slovak from the way I speak..

Imho, firearms freedoms in Czech Republic are quite good, judging from the fact that all .50 cal Browning M2HB's sold very quickly.. (though I don't think anyone shoots them much - too expensive)

Now, I should get back to what I was doing before, that is translating installation and maintenance instructions for industrial-type valves from English into Czech, so I'll get a few hundred crowns nearer to having the correct amount for to the DSLR. Last sentence probably explains why this post is so long.. I type pretty quickly.
 
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I have read that the Dominican Republic has hardly any gun laws, because they were eliminated along with an unpopular dictator. The country seems very successful in recent years, it's a very popular tourist destination for Europeans.

Which is pretty weird, since it's on the same island with the US foreign-aid socialism hellhole Haiti. Anyone been there recently?
 
I hadn't heard that Telo. Maybe for someoen wanting to go to the caribean it might even make a decent place to go compared to some of the other places. Like Jamaca for instance, nicep lace sure but I wouldn't step foot on its soil.
 
telo,

I was able to look up the DR on the internet. Its not bad, but no where near the freedoms we are used to. They don't allow a .45 handgun for instance.
 
5% armed?

Horge, are you really located in the Philippines? Urban or Rural?
My experience going there twice a year running a business give me a different picture. Heck, most of the farmers that worked my farms I know are armed, obviously they are unlicensed and they do not show it unless you are privilege (meaning they trust you). I have seen some of them first hand. My local friends are armed, licensed. I am armed (multiple-all licensed) when I am there. I also hold membership at a Local Gun Club and PPSA the equivalent of USPSA here and you are telling me 5% or 9% only? Hmmnnnn.
 
Look, I honestly didn't read the other posts, however your initial question of "Which country has the most firearmd freedoms?" is incorrect.

YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND TO BEAR ARMS....

IT is a question of weather or not the country that you are in choosed to respect that right.

YOU HAVE THE RIGHT...
 
Look, I honestly didn't read the other posts, however your initial question of "Which country has the most firearmd freedoms?" is incorrect.
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND TO BEAR ARMS....
IT is a question of weather or not the country that you are in choosed to respect that right.
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT...

Nature respects no rights.. and no laws, except laws of physics. So no, we don't have the right to keep and bear arms.
Our rights and laws are purely social agreements.
 
Look, I honestly didn't read the other posts, however your initial question of "Which country has the most firearmd freedoms?" is incorrect.

YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND TO BEAR ARMS....

IT is a question of weather or not the country that you are in choosed to respect that right.

YOU HAVE THE RIGHT...
True, but I think we all understand the OP's question.

But to address your point... everyone has a right to keep and bear arms. Even citizens of North Korea have a right to keep and bear arms. A government cannot take this right away. A government can only prohibit a person from exercising this right.
 
Nature respects no rights.. and no laws, except laws of physics. So no, we don't have the right to keep and bear arms.
Our rights and laws are purely social agreements.
You're confusing statutory rights with inalienable rights.

You are born with inalienable rights, and you have these rights regardless of anything else. Hence the existence of an inalienable right does not depend on the existence of other people. If, for example, I were stranded on a deserted island, I would have the right to defend myself against wild animals.
 
If, for example, I were stranded on a deserted island, I would have the right to defend myself against wild animals.
You would defend yourself because that's part of your biological make-up. Rights have nothing to do with it. Rights are an abstract idea created by human beings.
 
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