What do you consider to be the ultimate fighting revolver

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rcmodel said:
Gun shop BS!

The only three or four modern revolvers that have been in enough real fighting to make them real fighting revolvers are:

1. The 1917 Model Colt & S&W revolvers chambered in .45 ACP. (WWI & WWII)

2. The British Webley in .445 and later .38/200. (WWI & WWII)

3. The K-Frame Model M&P / Model 10 S&W & Colt Official Police counterpart in .38 Special. (American Cops for the first half of the 20th. century.

4. The S&W Model 19/66 Combat Magnum & Model 13/65 fixed sight version in .357 favored by the Border Patrol and a lot of cops before the 'wonder 9' pistols took over.

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I would add the J frame model 36/60 because of the large number of them carried as primary guns by detectives and backup guns by uniformed patrolmen.
 
Any S&W K frame 357 mag be it a 13, 65, 19 or 66 any of these would get my vote for the ultimate combat wheelgun.
 
Of those whow have responded, how many folks have actually been in an actual major gun battle and have actually have killed another person and what did you shoot the person with?

How many have actually shot a pistol in side a residence or business with out hearing protection and still have their hearing?

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My vote would be either the S&W 681/581, or a Ruger Speed Six, each with 4"bbls.
 
Of those whow have responded, how many folks have actually been in an actual major gun battle and have actually have killed another person and what did you shoot the person with?

How many have actually shot a pistol in side a residence or business with out hearing protection and still have their hearing?

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You are unlikely to get any responses to this. I have not been in such a scenario (thankfully), but those who have tend to be private about such things, and it's actually considered bad manners to ask.

Just as an example, did you notice that Vern mentioned using a Colt revolver in two tours in Vietnam, but nobody asked him if the revolver worked, how well, or the situation surrounding such use?

You're pretty new here, so no worries. Thought I'd just offer the friendly tip.
 
Ultimate combat revolver
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Not mine. Don't have one. Wish I did. Just a pic I got through a google search.
 
My 4 in. S&W combat .357 is the one I shoot the best. I consider this a defensive weapon to fight my way to my rifle or shotgun if nessasary.
 
Soldiers don't usually carry revolvers, and the rest of us don't have the "privilege" of walking around on the street with Old Bessy openly on our hip.
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Soldiers used to carry revolvers. Some flight crews still do.

The question is a "what if" question. Not, "what do you carry and why?"

If you were walking into a fight and knew it and chose to take a wheelgun as back up to a shotgun etc. What would you take as the primary revolver? Likely not a J frame.

tipoc
 
I have Jim Cirillo's book in which he talks about his idea of the best fighting handgun, if he knew he was going into a situation where it would likely be used.
It was a S&W M29 .44 magnum that had been modified with a 4" ported Dan Wesson barrel and Bo-Mar rib. His reasoning was that with a heavier barrel it was more controllable with heavy loads or could be used with medium loads and be even easier to control.
I am inclined to agree, if i knew there were a high chance of having to use it, of my revolvers I would be carrying my 3" .44 magnum and would have my hand loads of 200 grain xtp's at 1250 fps in the gun and speed loaders, and a few speed loaders of 240 gr. hard cast at 1150 fps for barrier penetration.
 
I carried a S&W Model 10-5 4", as a side arm, during my tour of RVN. I was aircrew on CH-47 Chinooks. Fortunately I never had to fire it except plinking. I did think the 125gn FMJ .38 spl rd. was a bit wimpy tho.

For a "fighting" revolver it'd be these two.

Primary & back-up -

S&W M66-4 & S&W M649
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Silicosys4 - I have Jim Cirillo's book in which he talks about his idea of the best fighting handgun, if he knew he was going into a situation where it would likely be used.
It was a S&W M29 .44 magnum that had been modified with a 4" ported Dan Wesson barrel and Bo-Mar rib. His reasoning was that with a heavier barrel it was more controllable with heavy loads or could be used with medium loads and be even easier to control.
I am inclined to agree, if i knew there were a high chance of having to use it, of my revolvers I would be carrying my 3" .44 magnum and would have my hand loads of 200 grain xtp's at 1250 fps in the gun and speed loaders, and a few speed loaders of 240 gr. hard cast at 1150 fps for barrier penetration.
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It didn't seem to follow that you would cite the book and then carry 3". If you have shot the longer guns, what did you think? Was the length a deal-breaker for concealed carry?
 
tipoc - I tend to agree with what R C Model said in post #5.

A fighting revolver is one you'd take into battle or into an actual gunfight if you knew one was coming. Not a backup gun but the primary handgun. Not a CCW self defense piece either.

A revolver you might use in a fight and a fighting handgun are two different things.

Concealment is not a major consideration.

It's a the gun you'd take with you if you were gonna start some trouble or finish it. You'd bring a shotgun and...

It's the wheelgun you'd want to have on your hip in "The Valley of Death", along with your rifle, mortor and whatever else.
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I think if you were going to insist on that definition, I wouldn't want a revolver at all. I would take my Glock 22, which holds 14+1, .40 S&W, and includes another mag on my belt. My "big iron" revolvers would be too fatiguing and too quick to run empty to be militarily competitive
 
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It didn't seem to follow that you would cite the book and then carry 3". If you have shot the longer guns, what did you think? Was the length a deal-breaker for concealed carry?
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Well, I wish I had a m29 with a ported dan wesson barrel and a bo-mar rib, but those are hard to come by. I had to settle with what I've got.
I was more talking about carrying a .44 magnum with a shorter barrel and ammo loaded not-so-hot than replicating his recipe exactly. I could carry any number of .357's, or a 7 1/2" super redhawk in .44, but the 3" .44 mag is my pick of what I've got..
 
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If I had to be in a gunfight or a battle with a revolver I would take a S&W Mod 14, because the longer barrel is easier to be accurate with and I am pretty proficient with the gun
 
rcmodel said:
Gun shop BS!

The only three or four modern revolvers that have been in enough real fighting to make them real fighting revolvers are:

1. The 1917 Model Colt & S&W revolvers chambered in .45 ACP. (WWI & WWII)

2. The British Webley in .445 and later .38/200. (WWI & WWII)

3. The K-Frame Model M&P / Model 10 S&W & Colt Official Police counterpart in .38 Special. (American Cops for the first half of the 20th. century.

4. The S&W Model 19/66 Combat Magnum & Model 13/65 fixed sight version in .357 favored by the Border Patrol and a lot of cops before the 'wonder 9' pistols took over.

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I don't have a Webley, but those other two (1 and 3 above) seem mighty capable to me.
 
Post #54 would eliminate the need to discuss this, as anyone that answers yes knows what they would want when it comes down to it.....but yes, and yes. S&W 27 .357 one shot, Huh? Sorry you'll have to speak up. Hearing protection takes a back seat to life protection in an emergency. When you are being shot at, it immediately becomes an emergency.
 
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