Gun Fighting Revolver

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S&W or Ruger 3" .357. 6 or 7 shot. NO moon clips.
Moon clips are wonderful on the range. If one gets slightly bent and won't let the cylinder close you dump it and try another. No problem; the steel or paper isn't shooting back.
For SD I'll stick with high quality speed loaders.
 
For a combination of utility to concealability, my preference has always been for a J-frame revolver.

But if we're talking a belt-holstered open carry sidearm... Of what I currently possess, the choices would fall to either the Model 65, Model 686 Powerport, or Governor...

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I've never handled one, but based purely on specs and reputation, I'd have to take a serious look at the Manurhin MR73... :)
 
I carried a customized S&W 66 (357 mag) for many years, 2.5in, DAO. Was a great option back then, and would still serve one well now. However, I'm not so sure I wouldn't just go with a 38+P in a short barrel like that now.

So, if told I had to carry a revolver again, that same 66 would likely be my go to for serious concerns or a J frame Airlite for EDC.
 
Gordon, if you can… please inform what holster and What Speedloader carrier that is. Very cool

Thank you
Custom made 10 years ago, sorry I forget who was made in Southern California . That is a 1989 "Mountain Revolver" , is not the later Mountain Gun . I had it thru the 90s and for bigger than bipeds is my go to.
Those are Kim Ahrends grips which really tame the beast even with 300 grain hot loads.
 
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S&W 681 everything you need
 
Just wanted to ask a random question that crossed my mind.

If you could see the future and knew for an absolute undeniable fact that you would be in a self defense gun fight with one or possibly more armed criminals, what one revolver would you want to carry?

Has to be only one revolver. No semiauto pistols, rifles, multiples, back ups, or any other options outside of those parameters. Please just play along. I am just curious to hear what everyone would choose.
Before I can answer I have to know if you mean concealed carry exclusively when you say carry? It makes a world of difference.

If you could see the future
I’d be somewhere else when the attack went down. Always avoid a gunfight if you can.
 
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S&W 681 everything you need

Except a front sight you can pick up quickly. Had both a 581 and a 681 and sold both because the front sight was so tiny and sloped in such a way as to be lost in some lighting conditions. YMMV!

Dave
 
I haven't read all responses.

I'd feel comfortable with a 38, 357, 44 (special or magnum at 1000-1100 fps), or 45 (ACP or Colt). Gunfighting is more about tactics and mental conditioning than it is about what caliber you're using.

I want to comment on some choices.made. A j frame with factory wadcutters will meet the needs of 99% of civilian gun carriers for self defense. I got in an argument in another thread about "meeting the needs".

The question posed in this thread is you know you're going into a situation where you may have to gunfight with a revolver.

To me a j frame is not the answer.

I previously posted a 4" GP100 or a 4" Model 10. I think I'd like to add to that. 2 GP100 or Model 10. Drawing a second gun is faster than any reload.
 
Funny!!!

There isn't much luv for a 357mag on this website until you need 1. Then they fly off the shelves like cheep beer 15 minutes before the game starts. 30+ votes for the 357mag in this thread. Might as well make it 1 more vote for the 357.

S&W l-comp 7-shot that's setup for moon clips or uses speed loads
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I would take the same revolver I have carried for the last bunch of years, a S&W Model 22-4’

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Or the revolver I built in the 80s, a S&W Model 28-2, round butt, in 45 ACP,

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Or, the S&W Model 625-6, 45 ACP Mountain Gun,

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Or … you get the idea, a 4”, 45 ACP, Nframe.

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Kevin
 
Random thoughts all you guys talking about
S&W or Ruger 3" .357. 6 or 7 shot. NO moon clips.
Moon clips are wonderful on the range. If one gets slightly bent and won't let the cylinder close you dump it and try another. No problem; the steel or paper isn't shooting back.
For SD I'll stick with high quality speed loaders.

I have shot tens of thousand of rounds on moonclip in competition, I CCW a moonclip feed revolver and have hunted several season with moonclip fed revolver and I have never had a moonclip fail me. I have had other things fail on revolver but never a moonclips. There is a quick and simple check you do after loading the moonclip that ensure its not bent or otherwise compromised. I have killed two or three dozen moonclips in competition but it has always been the result of being stepped on or kicked them during or after the ejection. I would take moonclips over speed loaders any day of the week, twice on match day, and three times on real fight day.

Also if I knew a fight was coming, per OP, I would be wearing my competition rig and not playing around with any CCW gear (see my earlier post in this thread for pic of gear). My reloads independent of what revolver I chose would be round nose bullets (despite their terminal short comings). When I first got my 627 I was so excited to shoot my first match with an 8-shot revolver I did not wait to get every thing setup to load round nose 38 Short Colt (the best option for USPSA at the time) and grab the only 38/357 I had at the time and loaded up moonclips. Let me tell you trying to hit fast reloads with 38 Special semi-wad cutter is a nightmare in a match (compared to 45 ACP ball ammo I was transitioning from). 357 Mag on moonclips with anything that has a flat point or sharp shoulder is even worst for getting them in the gun fast. The time pressure of competition is bad enough I could not imaging the fumbles in a real gun fight with long skinny flat point ammo.

This alone makes me lean more towards my 625 than my 627 in a real gun fight. The only advantage the 627 has is if it can finish the fight on the 7 or 8 round. After that the reload advantage goes heavily to the 625.
 
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I'd feel comfortable with a 38, 357, 44 (special or magnum at 1000-1100 fps) Gunfighting is more about tactics and mental conditioning

I got in an argument in another thread about "meeting the needs".

The question posed in this thread is you know you're going into a situation where you may have to gunfight with a revolver.
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I agree with you - and I also have had “Discussions” on how the Revolver is incapable of proficiency in a Gun fight…. I guess my Reliable Car that’s 20 years old can’t get me from point a to b either.
A good old 44 spl suits me just fine.
 
Colt or S&W 1917 or Webley and Scott Mark VI with cylinder milled to take .45 ACP in half/full moon clips. Carried one for a couple of years while working in a small residential community
 
With knowledge of what is about to take place, furthermore having no other options to preserve life, I would use the 500 S&W using a former load - 400 grain flat nose soft points at 1500 fps (nice expansion) The revolver will have a 3.5" barrel and there will be plenty speed loaders available.
 

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With knowledge of what is about to take place, furthermore having no other options to preserve life, I would use the 500 S&W using a former load - 400 grain flat nose soft points at 1500 fps (nice expansion) The revolver will have a 3.5" barrel and there will be plenty speed loaders available.

Might not need too many speed loaders if you
time your shots, as any gunfighter knows,
waiting until your adversaries line up. You then
take out three to four said adversaries per shot.

This scenario is a doable. Practice for it.

(The tactic can be adapted to just about
any caliber we would-be gunfighters can
determine or think about. It's a proven.
I kid you not.)
 
Not knocking these ideas, yet a 500 would cause a bit of challenge for fast follow up shots and as for Waiting… That will not be my choice in a fire fight. “No second place winner” -Bill Jordan

Ps - Over penetration, bystanders
 
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