What do you think is the worst guntrope in media?

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Specifically: Shooting someone off the roof of the car you're driving. Not only would you not hit a thing, but you'd also go quite deaf from firing a gun in an enclosed space.

In general: Not taking into account how loud guns are, especially with firing from inside a vehicle or indoors. There should be MANY more burst eardrums.
 
Some people gave thumbs up to "Walking Dead" over the scene where Rick Grimes shoots a zombie soldier with a .357 Python inside a tank and becomes disoriented and deafened by the blast in an enclosed space. But yes, most TV shows have loud guns fired in tight spaces with no consequences to unprotected ears.

Really bad media gun tropes are AKs or ARs with thirty round magazines being fired six hundred rounds for a full minute (hey, the tech spex read cyclic rate: 600 rpm).
 
Carl,
When that scene happened I actually looked at my girlfriend and commented about how someone finally did it right.

I think the one that gets my goat the most is headshots. Seeing an actor shoot someone at 25-50 yards one handed on a quick draw. Give me a break.
 
In a later season of the Walking Dead, Rick fired his Python out the window of a car. He had everyone protect their ears before blasting the walker. That show gets a lot if the firearms stuff right.


However, same show, different episode (spoiler alert for season 3) the Governor scores a head shot with an AUG, then fails to hit anything else during the gun fight.

Numerous TV shows and movies are notorious for the sound of a safety being clicked off on a Glock. I saw/heard the sound of a cocking revolver as a guy drew a 1911.

The infinite ammo in movie AKs and M16s on full auto gets old.

On of my favorite gun scenes in the Expendables when Terry Crews blasts his AA12 on full auto for over 60 rounds with a 20 round drum. He did at least reload after.
 
Shooting someone off the roof of the car you're driving. Not only would you not hit a thing, but you'd also go quite deaf from firing a gun in an enclosed space.
Yes, that always frustrates me. Quite a while ago, on an old series called Miami Vice, there was one scene (and only one in the history of the show that I know of) where a guy put on ear plugs before he shot some kind of 7.62 x 51 semi-auto from the back seat of a car.

I find that as I see more accurate portrayal of firearms in movies and TV, I get more interested in the movie. Unfortunately, most often they get it wrong. And it's sad; they could get it right without it costing anything. I think one thing that leads to them shooting too many rounds without reloading is editing. You have to have a well choreographed scene and an almost continuous shot (one without any editing breaks) to avoid that.

Another thing that bugs me is no recoil. Oh yeah, they are big with a hugh flash coming out of the barrel, but there is no recoil - NONE. Just once I would like to see real recoil. No more Dirty Harry shooting around the corner with his .44 mag.

Lou
 
Jack Bower in the TV show "24" can shoot anyone...anywhere...at any distance...with a pistol.

Mel Gibson proned out and rolling across the floor shooting people with his pistol in one of the Lethal Weapon series.

Lots and lots and lots of people cocking their guns when they shouldn't be (ie its already cocked or it's a revolver).
 
The worst? That they can find a gun in any state, and look up who it's registered to.
As far as function goes, it's taking into account how loud they are or the whole 'shot person flies through the window' thing.
 
That recoil thing bothers me, too. There was one scene in a western where Gene Hackman has his eyeball right up to the scope of a heavy Buffalo Rifle (.45-70? 45-90?).

A sure route to a black eye.

Or no eye.

Wish I could remember the movie, though.

Well, it was a really crappy one anyhow.

Terry, 230RN
 
USAF_Vet said:
However, same show, different episode (spoiler alert for season 3) the Governor scores a head shot with an AUG, then fails to hit anything else during the gun fight.

Same show, different episode. The governor shoots a running National Guardsman in the back from about 100 yards with an AR... with no sights.
 
-Knockback from bullet strike (shotgun and 50BMG are always the worst)
-Endless magazines (forgivable if for scene pacing and not totally ridiculous)
-Hip firing recoilless full auto presented as effective in combat
-The gun that's too deadly to be allowed on the streets
-The gun so deadly its existence is disavowed by authorities :rolleyes:

And I forgot the worst of all; Guns Are Worthless in combat

TCB
 
These are dramas. You have to suspend disbelief.

What bug me are old Westerns where everybody has Colt Single Action Armies in the 1850's (which, BTW, they never reload). Or the ubiquitous yellow bandanas on the cavalry. Or the fort built at the bottom of a hill so that the Indians could sweep the entire interior with gunfire.

These things didn't happen in real life.

To give Hollywood its due, more recent movies are getting better in their historical and technical details.
 
The Town

The movie, The Town, with Ben Affleck. There is a shootout scene in a parking garage area connected to Fenway Park. A disoriented young man (from I guess it was percussion grenades) stands up in the open and is killed with a single shot to the head from a SWAT officer with an AR. Just as the shot killed the young man, the camera shows the officer pulling back on his charging handle to reload the next round..... Must have been one of those single shot AR's??
 
I love watching The Expendables just for the crazy gunfight scenes, and the Lethal Weapon movies for the same reason. I have to laugh when I see some of the guys shoot, they never seem to miss anyone, unless there is a hostage situation. Then they just do what the bad guy wants, good way to loose your life and the hostage.
 
Suppressed revolvers. For that matter, suppressed rifles that just go PFFFT.

Doofusses holding handguns sideways.

The assumption that all guns have to be registered and the owner permitted.

One episode of CSI where the 22 caliber bullet in the victim was slightly out of round, leading to the instant conclusion that it was fired from a 22 that had been squeezed in a vise in order to cut off the barrel.

Another episode of CSI where cheap imported ammunition went off from being dropped on the floor. It was the black powder that had been mixed in the load that caused it. Yeah. Machine gun ammo, too.
 
CSI is a terrible show when it comes to any technical accuracy. They can get a print off a loofah sponge, their computers are holograms and all the criminals drive Mercedes Benz, Ferraris and lamborghinis. The red head guy from CSI Miami is also a sniper with a pistol.
 
What about all the action stars trying to act while shooting? Making faces, grimacing, screaming, etc. I've seen a lot of people shooting, and the facial expression is nearly always blank faced concentration.



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Another is the "hero weapon." This has become a little less common of late, but the hero who uses his "signature weapon," something odd, exotic, and rare, in hopes of making him memorable.

That's why I thought Mitch Rapp, with his preferred Glock 19 was a breath of fresh air.

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In a later season of the Walking Dead, Rick fired his Python out the window of a car. He had everyone protect their ears before blasting the walker.

When the captured zombies came out of the barn, we discovered that the missing little girl was among them.

After the gunfire, she was the last surviving zombie, slowly approaching the deputy sheriff character.

Standing in the dirt in front of the barn, he slowly raised his .357mag, took aim, and shot her in the forehead ...

... and that sound was clearly followed by the sound of an empty cartridge case hitting a hard surface.

:scrutiny: Really?

O'course, so many things about that show a so very stupid, that I was not surprised.
 
Movies are getting better. They must be hiring more vets or something as thechnical advisors. It seems like every 80's and 90's action movie featuring "SEALS", Delta" or some other such representation of special forces makes me grimmace.

I was watching that Harrison Ford movie Air Force One the other day and all the elite vets and terrorists were holding their subguns out in front of them on this crowded plane with the stocks folded and spraying lead all over the place. It was hilarious.
 
What about how every pistol on TV makes the "slide racking" sound before being brought into use, whether it is merely being withdrawn from a holster, or having the safety disengaged, or in some cases just being pointed at someone.
 
denton remarked,

The assumption that all guns have to be registered and the owner permitted.

Oh, yeah, right! I plumb forgot about that one. Really maddening!
 
Here's ones for the veterans: how about the "whooshing" sound that every rocket makes? I've shot enough AT-4s and Stingers to know that they go BANG when they fire, and I've never heard a whoooosh.
 
Well the one I find most infuriating since it directly affects my ability to procure one without selling my first born is the portrayal of suppressors. Too many bad spy movies makes everyone think you can't hear a suppressed handgun outside of a 5ft range.
 
I like when a guy shot with a .45 in a saloon gets blown out the window, clears the front porch, and lands in the middle of the street.
 
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