What Guns Should Be C&R But Arn't.

[belercous]

Ok, but what makes a CZ-82 a curio? It certainly isn't a relic, it's got polygonal rifling. They don't seem to have much collector value (judging from their price) & aren't unusual or out of the ordinary in any way. Why would the BATFE certify this gun as C&R?

I just can't figure out why they're classified as such (although I'm glad they are) & why the CZ-83 isn't. The 2 pistols are identical (from what I can tell) except for the chambering.

Did the BATFE slip-up on this one?

 

[mgmorden]

The CZ-82 was made in Czechoslovakia, which is no longer a country, and was used by that countries military and police forces. The CZ-83 was made there, but was an export model not used internally. My guess is simply that the BATF felt that the status as a military sidearm would increase its collectability over the CZ-83.

It's the same with Russian Makarovs. The military ones are all C&R but the commercial variants (in .380 OR 9mm Mak) are not.

 

[leadcounsel]

Cetain SKS models are, and others are not. Explain to me that one.

It's generally the Chinese that aren't.

 

[Shadow 7D]

Cause the Chinese were 'sporting arms' and imported to the US as such, instead as collectable 'military surplus'
now where is that sarcasm smile again??
cause the Chinese were still using theirs? we don't like them?
they are still around as a communist country?

Oh, and the CZ 82 is a CURIO because the Curator of the USMA Museum at West Point petitioned the ATF to declare it such (as is the right of a recognized curator in an effort to 'improve' their collection)
and since he got his, we all get ours.

 

[JustinJ]

Does anybody know when the laws/rules allowing C&R licenses went into affect?

 

[TexasRifleman]

Does anybody know when the laws/rules allowing C&R licenses went into affect?

If I remember right it was in 94 around the time of the Clinton Crime Bill. May have come from part of that, can't remember exactly.

 

[Mike OTDP]

The C&R was established by the Gun Control Act of 1968. A lot of folks just got dealer's FFLs until 1994, when the prices and enforcement were raised considerably.

As to the Cz82, the curator of the West Point museum wrote ATF and requested the reclassification. Personally, I think he was just trying to do us a favor. Which I greatly appreciate.

 

[TexasRifleman]

A lot of folks just got dealer's FFLs until 1994, when the prices and enforcement were raised considerably.

Ahhh that makes sense. I don't remember ever hearing of it until then, guess that's why. Thanks.

 

[Ignition Override]

cooldude14:

As an SKS owner, it would be interesting to know the production time span for the Norincos.

Several people at 'SKSboards' report that the PRC never furnished any production dates to the US, which makes the ATF's "job" so much easier.

 

[zoom6zoom]

can we add the Maxim?

How bout the M1895 Browning potato digger?

Most of the old MG's already are. You still need a tax stamp, but don't have to go through a Class III dealer to transfer it.

 

[MrWesson]

How about no FFL transfer needed with CWP?

Seems kind of stupid when you think about it.

I have passed all background checks, met stricter requirements for handling them, and don't have to wait but I still have to go through a FFL in a state with no gun registration.. Whats up with that.