What is a "Cop Killer" Handgun?!?!
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Moto
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Here the garbage they want people to send to their senators. Very misleading
"As one of your constituents, I urge you to contact the State Senate Ways and Means Committee and tell them to release SB 2113 to the Floor for a full vote.
SB 2113 is an important bill that will ban .50 caliber sniper rifles and "cop-killer" handguns. These weapons should not be available to the general public and will put our citizens and police officers at risk if this legislation is not passed.
The .50 caliber sniper rifle is an extremely lethal, high-powered weapon of war advertised for its ability to shoot down airplanes and knock out targets up to four miles away. These are not hunting rifles and they have no place in our communities.
The new FiveSeveN concealable handgun is dubbed the "cop-killer" because it fires bullets that can tear right through a police officer's bulletproof vest. SB 2113 will help protect our police officers, not put their lives in jeopardy."
"As one of your constituents, I urge you to contact the State Senate Ways and Means Committee and tell them to release SB 2113 to the Floor for a full vote.
SB 2113 is an important bill that will ban .50 caliber sniper rifles and "cop-killer" handguns. These weapons should not be available to the general public and will put our citizens and police officers at risk if this legislation is not passed.
The .50 caliber sniper rifle is an extremely lethal, high-powered weapon of war advertised for its ability to shoot down airplanes and knock out targets up to four miles away. These are not hunting rifles and they have no place in our communities.
The new FiveSeveN concealable handgun is dubbed the "cop-killer" because it fires bullets that can tear right through a police officer's bulletproof vest. SB 2113 will help protect our police officers, not put their lives in jeopardy."
Fergo_the_mule
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"it looks scary therefore we should ban it"
I have the FN FiveseveN or rather my dad had one it is a blast to shoot but it is a PAIN to find the ammunition and last time I checked NO ONE hase been killed with the 57 they are just banning it because it can hold 20 rounds of SCARY LOOKING AMMUNITION and your average criminal does not have the money to bet a .50 caliber rifle! agh they are banning it because it looks scary!
I have the FN FiveseveN or rather my dad had one it is a blast to shoot but it is a PAIN to find the ammunition and last time I checked NO ONE hase been killed with the 57 they are just banning it because it can hold 20 rounds of SCARY LOOKING AMMUNITION and your average criminal does not have the money to bet a .50 caliber rifle! agh they are banning it because it looks scary!
If I remember correctly, "Cop-killer" originated in some Mel Gibson movie. Probably one of the Lethal Weapon flicks. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Anywho, basically, yeah... any handgun round capable of penetrating body armor is a "cop killer."
I think a .44mag would be a cop-killer, then? (Never really seen a .44 vs. kevlar, couldn't tell you)
Anywho, basically, yeah... any handgun round capable of penetrating body armor is a "cop killer."
I think a .44mag would be a cop-killer, then? (Never really seen a .44 vs. kevlar, couldn't tell you)
Autolycus
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Fergo the mule: You realize that this thread is over almost 1 1/2 years old?
RedLion
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A cop killer in my book is usually a person. It might be a dog too. I have never heard of guns killing cops without input from the real cop killer.
Also knifes would be more "dangerous" than most handguns. Knifes can penetrate through almost all body armor. In the UK they found this out the hard way. Because no one can own a gun they all use knifes to attack people and they had to specially make new body armor to stop knife attacks. I saw a show on it on TV.
Gun grabbers, when will they ever learn!?!?
Also knifes would be more "dangerous" than most handguns. Knifes can penetrate through almost all body armor. In the UK they found this out the hard way. Because no one can own a gun they all use knifes to attack people and they had to specially make new body armor to stop knife attacks. I saw a show on it on TV.
Gun grabbers, when will they ever learn!?!?
highorder
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where has this been advertised? and I know the .50BMG has range, but 6500+yards? come on.
Limeyfellow
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They been going on about cop killer guns since at least 1976.
Ford started off the ball in trying to get these mythical guns banned and Reagan spent most of his presidency trying to ban them and after that about every couple of years the subject comes up.
Ford started off the ball in trying to get these mythical guns banned and Reagan spent most of his presidency trying to ban them and after that about every couple of years the subject comes up.
RedLion
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I believe that is from 60 min. I saw a 60 min. show where they said pretty much the same thing. They bashed Ronnie Barrett and patronized a terrorist because he said how easy it was to buy a .50 and how "flawed" the gun laws in america were.
They should do there homework. On the history channel the navy did a study in WWII where it took about 2400 rounds of anti aircraft fire to take a airplane out of the sky. Also bombs are a terrorist favorite weapon. whos surprised these libral gun grabbers are wrong? anyone? anyone?
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A "cop killer handgun" is simply a "criminal stopper handgun" pointed in the wrong direction.
Cops would benefit greatly if the Brady Campaign would support the NRA and every state that issues concealed weapons permits to make sure that as many good people as possible have "criminal stopper handguns."
Then there would be much fewer "cop killer handguns."
Cops would benefit greatly if the Brady Campaign would support the NRA and every state that issues concealed weapons permits to make sure that as many good people as possible have "criminal stopper handguns."
Then there would be much fewer "cop killer handguns."
RedLion
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Amen To That Robert!!!!!
I've watched most of the applicable movies again, and I'm still sure that a "cop killer handgun" is beyond our technology at the moment. The Predators didn't even have a working example as of the mid '80s, and had to rely on that shoulder mounted plasma cannon in combination with the funky alien chakram/boomerang thing.
Don Gwinn
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Necromancy is goofy and tasteless, Tecumseh, but it's not against the rules.
Kimber1911_06238
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right, because the handgun is the problem....not the wackjob shooting at the police
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Cop Killer Handgun is a handgun that kills Cops by itself or with the assistance of a criminal.
American_Pit_Bull
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Not that it makes for much of a discussion, but your question is answered in the link that you posted...
FLORIDA KEVIN
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I wonder how many cops each year are killed with their own or the guns of their peers ? If is substantial would the Brady bunch then advocate disarming the polic for their own safety ?
revjen45
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"I'd like to see the bullet that could bring a plane outta the sky with one hit."
It's called a surface-to-air missile. Pretty expensive, and I haven't seen any at Big 5.
It's called a surface-to-air missile. Pretty expensive, and I haven't seen any at Big 5.
the_fallguy
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I wonder if the Brady folks will ever realize that every time they say stuff like this it fosters an "Us vs. Them" relationship. Do you think they have a clue how many of "Us" there is?
Funderb
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Serious part:
I have personally shot a fiveseven.
They're a lot of fun.
Go buy one before the ban can go through.
Sarcastic part:
What's that? The ammo is ridiculously expensive? And the civillian models
are $900? Oh jeeze, so I guess the "cop killers" might end up
spending less money on something else, like the always do.
Normal part:
And someone who can afford a .50 bmg "sniper" rifle is proably not the type of person who's going to shoot up the joint.
I have personally shot a fiveseven.
They're a lot of fun.
Go buy one before the ban can go through.
Sarcastic part:
What's that? The ammo is ridiculously expensive? And the civillian models
are $900? Oh jeeze, so I guess the "cop killers" might end up
spending less money on something else, like the always do.
Normal part:
And someone who can afford a .50 bmg "sniper" rifle is proably not the type of person who's going to shoot up the joint.
doc2rn
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key word
The current cop killer handgun all the LEO are mad about is the 500 S&W since it will defeat level 3 body armour. It's sheer conetic ability to stop the heart muscle even if it does not fully penetrate has caused quite a stir. I believe this was discussed before.
I think this was also discussed when the .40 came out and testing revealed it could beat level 2 armour. My .02 is any firearm can be misused and thus the derrogitory term applied. The key separator for me was the use of the word handgun, when addressing .50 calibers.
The current cop killer handgun all the LEO are mad about is the 500 S&W since it will defeat level 3 body armour. It's sheer conetic ability to stop the heart muscle even if it does not fully penetrate has caused quite a stir. I believe this was discussed before.
I think this was also discussed when the .40 came out and testing revealed it could beat level 2 armour. My .02 is any firearm can be misused and thus the derrogitory term applied. The key separator for me was the use of the word handgun, when addressing .50 calibers.
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