I went to a gunshow a couple years ago, specifically looking for a 4" model 66, (I fell in love with one owned by a freind of a freind, that he wouldn't part with) and found a very clean no-dash ( on a table full of nice very revolvers) that the guy "dropped" the price for me to $480 otd. I felt I might still be paying a little much, even started a thread here asking if I did, but since it was exactly what I was looking for,in great condition with very tight lock-up, I'd have been an idiot to pass on it in the hopes of finding another that was at best $50 less.