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What kind of SHTF are you preparing for?
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Neo-Luddite
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"Now think about your family, does your plan include small children?"
Yes. Without a family to worry about I would be a free-range Id roaming the earth after the SHTF. Assuming TEOTWAWKI, I'd probably take my old pal G---'s advice and just become a canibal.
Anyone who has been around my kids knows that they may actually one day be the cause of the SHTF.
I have purchased weapons and ammo on their behalf. They are both very small. They are well-armed children. If they give me any guff during a SHTF scenario I have a stash of zip ties, cough syrup and duct tape. Daddy will be busy, they will help or at least be quiet. Mommy and I are on the same page.
I spent some time on buildanark.net ---someone here had mentioned it. Really great SHTF narrative from a fellow in Argentina---great insights.
Yes. Without a family to worry about I would be a free-range Id roaming the earth after the SHTF. Assuming TEOTWAWKI, I'd probably take my old pal G---'s advice and just become a canibal.
Anyone who has been around my kids knows that they may actually one day be the cause of the SHTF.
I have purchased weapons and ammo on their behalf. They are both very small. They are well-armed children. If they give me any guff during a SHTF scenario I have a stash of zip ties, cough syrup and duct tape. Daddy will be busy, they will help or at least be quiet. Mommy and I are on the same page.
I spent some time on buildanark.net ---someone here had mentioned it. Really great SHTF narrative from a fellow in Argentina---great insights.
I prepare for natural disaster, civil unrest (probably caused by said natural disaster), and I am always looking for ways to become more self sufficient (which helps when things like long term economic instability come along).
I read alot of other people preparations, and often they are misguided, usually because the "preparee" hasn't done enough research. One of the biggest faults is not trying to find people who have been there, and what they did to get by (our very own JWarren is a good model of this), rather than just listening to some guys rattle off all of the munitions they have stockpiled.
I also think that you need to learn some basics about economics, governement and world politics, psychology, and most important, sociology to truely understand what could happen and how to be ready. All too often I read of people preparing for some fantasy Red Dawn scenario, but would be up a creek if the power went out for a week. Of course, some plans are like trying to take cover from a tornado under a house of cards.
Lastly I think that Bugging-Out is one of the most misunderstood survival tactics. If you are trying to vacate a high risk area to pre-stocked shelter, it makes good sense. Hiking into the wilderness to escape a disaster, on the other hand, can lead you to resting on the wrong side of the grass.
Sorry I kind of went off on a tangent there.
I read alot of other people preparations, and often they are misguided, usually because the "preparee" hasn't done enough research. One of the biggest faults is not trying to find people who have been there, and what they did to get by (our very own JWarren is a good model of this), rather than just listening to some guys rattle off all of the munitions they have stockpiled.
I also think that you need to learn some basics about economics, governement and world politics, psychology, and most important, sociology to truely understand what could happen and how to be ready. All too often I read of people preparing for some fantasy Red Dawn scenario, but would be up a creek if the power went out for a week. Of course, some plans are like trying to take cover from a tornado under a house of cards.
Lastly I think that Bugging-Out is one of the most misunderstood survival tactics. If you are trying to vacate a high risk area to pre-stocked shelter, it makes good sense. Hiking into the wilderness to escape a disaster, on the other hand, can lead you to resting on the wrong side of the grass.
Sorry I kind of went off on a tangent there.
SoCalShooter
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I am setup for hunting Zombies. If you set yourself up for a class 4 zombie infection you should be ready for just about everything....except a class 5.
"What kind of SHTF are you preparing for? "
Hmm,....
Try to keep a few weeks worth of food and supplies on hand at all times.
Influenza epidemic/pandemic, Would plan on not going to town for a few weeks til things leveled out.
Earthquake. A major one could make it tough to travel/get to town for some time, not to mention for supplies to come into the area. I am not convinced that the "big Yellowstone eruption" is going to happen, as a worst case scenario predicted by some, but a serious quake isn't out of the question either.
Economic problems/depression, Would be good to have some staples stocked up, and enough .22 and 30-30 shells or reloading supplies to make meat for awhile.
Not much concern about riots or social upheaval around here. Simply not many people, and those that are here are pretty self reliant in attitude.
Terrorist attack that disrupts the economy or transport could slow or halt incoming supplies for some time.
Canadian invasion. It's an under rated issue, but I've long felt that we should keep a wary eye on our Northen "neighbors". I feel a Canadian invasion is a real possibilty. I think they've been eyeing our nice warm country for a long time, and are just waiting for the chance to take it. A Canadian invasion could easily be mistaken for a zombie invasion, since many Canadians wear heavy clothes to stay warm, and walk like zombies because of all the heavy clothing.
Hmm,....
Try to keep a few weeks worth of food and supplies on hand at all times.
Influenza epidemic/pandemic, Would plan on not going to town for a few weeks til things leveled out.
Earthquake. A major one could make it tough to travel/get to town for some time, not to mention for supplies to come into the area. I am not convinced that the "big Yellowstone eruption" is going to happen, as a worst case scenario predicted by some, but a serious quake isn't out of the question either.
Economic problems/depression, Would be good to have some staples stocked up, and enough .22 and 30-30 shells or reloading supplies to make meat for awhile.
Not much concern about riots or social upheaval around here. Simply not many people, and those that are here are pretty self reliant in attitude.
Terrorist attack that disrupts the economy or transport could slow or halt incoming supplies for some time.
Canadian invasion. It's an under rated issue, but I've long felt that we should keep a wary eye on our Northen "neighbors". I feel a Canadian invasion is a real possibilty. I think they've been eyeing our nice warm country for a long time, and are just waiting for the chance to take it.
A Canadian invasion could easily be mistaken for a zombie invasion, since many Canadians wear heavy clothes to stay warm, and walk like zombies because of all the heavy clothing.HMMurdock
Member
Good point about the Canucks. Canadian zombies, perhaps?
"Errggghh. Braaains, eh?"
I need more AK ammo.
TRL
"Errggghh. Braaains, eh?"
I need more AK ammo.
TRL
Not a bad idea at all, but there is a bit of a logical oversight in there. Preparation is not an all-inclusive kind of thing. While you may have all you need for the worst case scenario, a lesser upheaval might require different tactics or supplies that you have not aquired.
ArfinGreebly
Moderator Emeritus
Refugees, Mostly
I live on the leeward side of the Sierra Nevada, just downhill from Tahoe.
We've had a couple of heavy winter incidents over the last 15 years (neither of which while I was here) and a couple of fairly significant floods in that same time frame.
Things didn't really get out of hand, and standard food reserves, fuel reserves, usual tools, that kind of thing were really all that was needed.
However.
On the other side of these same mountains, Rube Goldberg has set in motion his Chaos Theory Engine Of Doom (™), and some time in the next decade it's entirely reasonable to expect any one of several refugee-generating events.
There is much to choose from: quakes, tsunamis, fires, social upheaval, and -- my personal favorite -- large scale attack on a major city.
The mountain range isolates us from the event itself, but over a period of days or weeks and for a period lasting possibly weeks or months it is quite conceivable that people fleeing the destruction du jour would head over the hill and land in our laps.
So, in addition to standard supplies and provisions, we would need to be prepared to repel boarders at some level. If the various agencies that act on these things can keep it all together, then fine.
If they can't keep things civil, then I guess we'd have to employ some kind of civil defense augmentation gear.
The good news is I have some of that gear.
As far as I can imagine, there are no credible scenarios that lead to evacuation of Dodge. I suppose, in the interests of prudence, that I should go ahead and compile the requisite GOOD (Get Out Of Dodge) provisions and packaging.
It is well to note, though, that if the GOOD scenario ever came to pass, a realistic trek would require a substantial augmentation of auto fuel. I'd have to have a couple of jerry cans of stabilized fuel.
None of the GOOD stuff is in place yet.
The hunker down stuff is.
I live on the leeward side of the Sierra Nevada, just downhill from Tahoe.
We've had a couple of heavy winter incidents over the last 15 years (neither of which while I was here) and a couple of fairly significant floods in that same time frame.
Things didn't really get out of hand, and standard food reserves, fuel reserves, usual tools, that kind of thing were really all that was needed.
However.
On the other side of these same mountains, Rube Goldberg has set in motion his Chaos Theory Engine Of Doom (™), and some time in the next decade it's entirely reasonable to expect any one of several refugee-generating events.
There is much to choose from: quakes, tsunamis, fires, social upheaval, and -- my personal favorite -- large scale attack on a major city.
The mountain range isolates us from the event itself, but over a period of days or weeks and for a period lasting possibly weeks or months it is quite conceivable that people fleeing the destruction du jour would head over the hill and land in our laps.
So, in addition to standard supplies and provisions, we would need to be prepared to repel boarders at some level. If the various agencies that act on these things can keep it all together, then fine.
If they can't keep things civil, then I guess we'd have to employ some kind of civil defense augmentation gear.
The good news is I have some of that gear.
As far as I can imagine, there are no credible scenarios that lead to evacuation of Dodge. I suppose, in the interests of prudence, that I should go ahead and compile the requisite GOOD (Get Out Of Dodge) provisions and packaging.
It is well to note, though, that if the GOOD scenario ever came to pass, a realistic trek would require a substantial augmentation of auto fuel. I'd have to have a couple of jerry cans of stabilized fuel.
None of the GOOD stuff is in place yet.
The hunker down stuff is.
mort
Member
I tend to think that I am preparing for when the alien come. Aliens seem to be the best option to me even if it is not plausible.
1. Since you won't know the capabilities of the evil threat from above you will need to diversify your weapons selection. We might get lucky and all the aliens will die when exposed to the vile vibrations that canadian torturess Celine Dion. If we are not lucky then we will all need Barrett M82A1 rifles with enough ammo to destroy all the invaders. Above all you must train yourself to find any potential tool in alien extermination. This is an awesome game to play with the your friends. (Hey Tom what can we use in the plumbing aisle to destroy a brigade of evil three legged squirrel-like aliens?)
2. Aliens are great bad guys especially if they are ugly. No one cares if you blow away scary looking creatures from another world. (I'm sure someone will complain but they probably look uglier than the aliens.) And defending your planet from alien invaders is 100 X better than fighting the war on terror, 10000000000 X better than the war on drugs.
3. You must always be ready because you never know when the aliens will attack. (Sorry honey but I can't do the dishes tonight, i need to load ammo for the invasion.)
4. Hot green alien women!!! Just remember to have your best lines ready for when you need to rescue the hot alien women from slavery at the hands of the evil Z(&TG#QPQQT.
5. High tech hand-me-down. I cant wait until we take over some alien space ships and get nano-tech and plasma weapons. (Which is better a .45 or 9mm plasma gun?
6. We need to send the peace mongers out to greet the aliens. If the aliens are bent on world domination it would seem best to have anyone who might get in the way of winning the war die at the beginning. DON'T SEND SCIENTISTS! We will need all our tallent to fight the aliens.
1. Since you won't know the capabilities of the evil threat from above you will need to diversify your weapons selection. We might get lucky and all the aliens will die when exposed to the vile vibrations that canadian torturess Celine Dion. If we are not lucky then we will all need Barrett M82A1 rifles with enough ammo to destroy all the invaders. Above all you must train yourself to find any potential tool in alien extermination. This is an awesome game to play with the your friends. (Hey Tom what can we use in the plumbing aisle to destroy a brigade of evil three legged squirrel-like aliens?)
2. Aliens are great bad guys especially if they are ugly. No one cares if you blow away scary looking creatures from another world. (I'm sure someone will complain but they probably look uglier than the aliens.) And defending your planet from alien invaders is 100 X better than fighting the war on terror, 10000000000 X better than the war on drugs.
3. You must always be ready because you never know when the aliens will attack. (Sorry honey but I can't do the dishes tonight, i need to load ammo for the invasion.)
4. Hot green alien women!!! Just remember to have your best lines ready for when you need to rescue the hot alien women from slavery at the hands of the evil Z(&TG#QPQQT.
5. High tech hand-me-down. I cant wait until we take over some alien space ships and get nano-tech and plasma weapons. (Which is better a .45 or 9mm plasma gun?
6. We need to send the peace mongers out to greet the aliens. If the aliens are bent on world domination it would seem best to have anyone who might get in the way of winning the war die at the beginning. DON'T SEND SCIENTISTS! We will need all our tallent to fight the aliens.
Cosmoline
Member
I'm waiting for the next nine pointer. The last one turned the place upside-down, and there will be another. A St. Helens size volcano could also go off, and depending on wind could hit us hard with ash.
Limeyfellow
Member
Or say mass wild fires. Also large volcanic explosions would be rather nasty, especially since if a really big one such as Yellowstone goes it block the area off for a month at least where engines will clog with ash for hundreds of miles or create mudflows that need immediate escape such as with Mount Rainier.
Luckly the big ones in this area are probrobly massive wild fire that would need escape. The rest is generally okay from hurricanes to really bad ice storms, but that wouldn't need me to evacuate.
ReadyontheRight
Member
Lack of electricity, communications and food on store shelves would throw our fragile little society into a tizzy in about 4 days.
Keep some canned goods, water and a good rifle on-hand.
Pretty simple.
Keep some canned goods, water and a good rifle on-hand.
Pretty simple.
ripcurlksm
Member
.45 ACP
Gord
Member
I just like a good supply of Twinkies on hand. SHTF preparedness is just a cover story.
busy_squirrel
Member
I should be preparing for flooding here. or earthquake or maybe volcano/nuclear war.
But zombie looters are much funner.(grammar?)
There is one final reason which I refuse to name outloud. Suffice it so say that many of you prepare for just such an event....
But zombie looters are much funner.(grammar?)
There is one final reason which I refuse to name outloud. Suffice it so say that many of you prepare for just such an event....
Gord
Member
Shh - let's not let the masters know we won't lie down with the rest. The helicopters will come for us first.
Perhaps it would be wise to consider that if the repercussions of going too far were made a bit more overt, we wouldn't be huddled under siege of the Bradyites right now.
Perhaps it would be wise to consider that if the repercussions of going too far were made a bit more overt, we wouldn't be huddled under siege of the Bradyites right now.
CSA 357
Member
The only shtf im worred about is my wife findind out a just bought a new gun!
csa
csabusy_squirrel
Member
Yessah, massah! Me's a GOOD Toby...
bogie
Member
If I anticipate a serious SHTF situation, I'm going to order an extra keg for my basement's tapper.
Guys, short of a zombie-creating asteroid, we're going to be nibbled in little bitty pieces. We won't even notice it. Until one day, when we're at our "range," shooting our airsofts and BB "Rifles," and someone starts reminiscing about "the good old days" of the AWB #1...
Guys, short of a zombie-creating asteroid, we're going to be nibbled in little bitty pieces. We won't even notice it. Until one day, when we're at our "range," shooting our airsofts and BB "Rifles," and someone starts reminiscing about "the good old days" of the AWB #1...
sm
member
Honestly - somethings one cannot prepare for very well.
I understand civil unrests (riots), tornado's , ice storms, and other things Mother Nature tosses out, been through these and lessons learned as a kid still apply.
Serious Situations I find myself in along with others around my age [I am nearing 52 ] Serious life diseases of close folks such as cancer and them dying. Last fall 3 close folks died in a very very short time period.
Aging parents. I/we find aging parents are something that is ...well...plenty of books on picking out baby names, and how to raise a baby and all. They do not have a "How to raise a Parent Book" much less "How to take care of Aging Parents" book.
I am an older returning College Student. Had a 36 y/o person have a stroke at the College I attend - easy going guy , nothing gets to him, still taking care of a his dad with Alzheimer's, he suffered a mild stroke.
One person in mid forties had a heart attack, keeping tabs on older parents and she got a funny feeling and rushed to Emergency room.
Both of these folks have sibs, just not taking care of parents, and "the eldest one is supposed to do that".
Caregiver's disease is what some call this.
There is a parallel of Pediatrics and Geriatrics if you will. Just like a kid "has to have" that cereal advertised during cartoons, or "my favoritite place" is whatever fast food joint has the neatest kids toy in a kid's meal ...
Older folks are targeted and marketed to by advertising. In a 30 min TV show, 12 minutes of commercials and by the time one finishes the commericals, all sorts of aches, pains and "something is wrong with me".
My mom is not stupid, she is human, and yes like me, you and all of us, has her faults.
I have busted my tail doing Pharmacology searches, cross referencing my 77 y/o mom's prescription meds. She was looking bad, feeling bad and I looked up every medicine she had taken for a year, and current meds.
I basically sent a "book" with her on her doctor's visit with typed questions she had, and I had. I even made copies for the nurse to research and to get with the Doctor's on.
Mom was taken off 4 meds right off the bat. She started feeling better in a week. Fifth med she had to be weaned off of - cannot just stop taking this med.
You know how many take a "baby aspirin" for heart attack prevention? Yeah, well getting mom "straightened out with her arthritis meds, Naproxin, Tylenol and "can I take this with that and ..." - whatever else...I gave up fussing about the $#%ing throw rugs she has all over the house.
Like a kid, mom wanted immediate satisfaction from taking a med.
Risk for falls - dear me. My mom has neuropathy in both feet. I am 51 y/o and being scolded in a store " I am not going to use a cane and IF I did, it would not be one that looked like a "Old ladies cane".
Sorta like a kid chewing out a parent trying on all them clothes, especially that mom bit - you know - "stand up straight, don't slouch, and let me see if this fits". Mom's measure shirts holding against your back and all your fellow kid peers, jeering and making fun of you.
Got two canes, she approved, one in her car along with umpteen bazillion umbrellas, and one in the house.
I damn near tripped over one of them $#%&ing throw rugs ( one I had removed, seemed it crawled back into house) seeing my mom actually using a cane.
NO. I did not say a darn word about the cane, no grin, no smile - totally blind to the fact she was.
I know better than to say anything - if something is being done I have "suggested".
I will not list all the safety and security measures I have done to mom's house - just a lot has been done.
I cannot get her on the phone - okay...*maybe* she knocked the phone off the hook, or that new portable - she did not hang up right.
I drive over to check...
She is not home.
I piddle and pretend to be doing a chore and "I got lost and liked to have never made it home, I was a bit scared and this town has grown".
Here is a lady that used to get all over town, with 4 brats needing to be 4 places at the same time - and we were not late.
She got lost, scared in a city she has lived in since she was 17.
Aw phooey! Just shut up and listen, not scold, instead firm and supportive with some ideas.
She had to hand pick something for a grandkid. It had to wrapped and the whole bit. It broke her heart to hear this grandkids parents took one look and off to a store in their city to exchange.
Mom/ Grandma finally asked, after she got over being so upset, taking all this time , trouble getting lost and all the mailing...
"Can you use Internet and just send a Gift Cert to this grandkid, I am not going through all that again...it really hurt my feelings"
No, I did not say 'I told you so' - I instead fired up a laptop and got a gift cert sent.
The other day, remote control would not open garage door, and she went totally blank in her panic as to the code on exterior key pad.
Remote just needed a new battery. She used to "fix" toys for us kids when they "quit" by putting fresh batteries in, trying to hurry, and we kids not wanting to understand how all this stuff worked "just fix it".
Mom just wanted her garage door "fixed". I reminded her of the code, and this code is so easy (secure) still easy. "I panicked and made something hard out of something easy".
Serious Situations for some of us - that feeling we get in the gut about aging parents.
One of my closest friends knew his wife was going to die of cancer. Still the morning he woke up early to get the paper, his wife was alive and spoke to him in her sleepy voice. He goes back to bed after reading and coffee and she turn over, looks at him on last time, said a few words and gone.
He knew this was going to happen, all prepared , and arrangements made...still not totally prepared when it did.
Life and some of it Serious Situations is like fishing. Too many folks want to fish way out there...
...when the fish / serious needs are much much closer to the bank.
I understand civil unrests (riots), tornado's , ice storms, and other things Mother Nature tosses out, been through these and lessons learned as a kid still apply.
Serious Situations I find myself in along with others around my age [I am nearing 52 ] Serious life diseases of close folks such as cancer and them dying. Last fall 3 close folks died in a very very short time period.
Aging parents. I/we find aging parents are something that is ...well...plenty of books on picking out baby names, and how to raise a baby and all. They do not have a "How to raise a Parent Book" much less "How to take care of Aging Parents" book.
I am an older returning College Student. Had a 36 y/o person have a stroke at the College I attend - easy going guy , nothing gets to him, still taking care of a his dad with Alzheimer's, he suffered a mild stroke.
One person in mid forties had a heart attack, keeping tabs on older parents and she got a funny feeling and rushed to Emergency room.
Both of these folks have sibs, just not taking care of parents, and "the eldest one is supposed to do that".
Caregiver's disease is what some call this.
There is a parallel of Pediatrics and Geriatrics if you will. Just like a kid "has to have" that cereal advertised during cartoons, or "my favoritite place" is whatever fast food joint has the neatest kids toy in a kid's meal ...
Older folks are targeted and marketed to by advertising. In a 30 min TV show, 12 minutes of commercials and by the time one finishes the commericals, all sorts of aches, pains and "something is wrong with me".
My mom is not stupid, she is human, and yes like me, you and all of us, has her faults.
I have busted my tail doing Pharmacology searches, cross referencing my 77 y/o mom's prescription meds. She was looking bad, feeling bad and I looked up every medicine she had taken for a year, and current meds.
I basically sent a "book" with her on her doctor's visit with typed questions she had, and I had. I even made copies for the nurse to research and to get with the Doctor's on.
Mom was taken off 4 meds right off the bat. She started feeling better in a week. Fifth med she had to be weaned off of - cannot just stop taking this med.
You know how many take a "baby aspirin" for heart attack prevention? Yeah, well getting mom "straightened out with her arthritis meds, Naproxin, Tylenol and "can I take this with that and ..." - whatever else...I gave up fussing about the $#%ing throw rugs she has all over the house.
Like a kid, mom wanted immediate satisfaction from taking a med.
Risk for falls - dear me. My mom has neuropathy in both feet. I am 51 y/o and being scolded in a store " I am not going to use a cane and IF I did, it would not be one that looked like a "Old ladies cane".
Sorta like a kid chewing out a parent trying on all them clothes, especially that mom bit - you know - "stand up straight, don't slouch, and let me see if this fits". Mom's measure shirts holding against your back and all your fellow kid peers, jeering and making fun of you.
Got two canes, she approved, one in her car along with umpteen bazillion umbrellas, and one in the house.
I damn near tripped over one of them $#%&ing throw rugs ( one I had removed, seemed it crawled back into house) seeing my mom actually using a cane.
NO. I did not say a darn word about the cane, no grin, no smile - totally blind to the fact she was.
I know better than to say anything - if something is being done I have "suggested".
I will not list all the safety and security measures I have done to mom's house - just a lot has been done.
I cannot get her on the phone - okay...*maybe* she knocked the phone off the hook, or that new portable - she did not hang up right.
I drive over to check...
She is not home.
I piddle and pretend to be doing a chore and "I got lost and liked to have never made it home, I was a bit scared and this town has grown".
Here is a lady that used to get all over town, with 4 brats needing to be 4 places at the same time - and we were not late.
She got lost, scared in a city she has lived in since she was 17.
Aw phooey! Just shut up and listen, not scold, instead firm and supportive with some ideas.
She had to hand pick something for a grandkid. It had to wrapped and the whole bit. It broke her heart to hear this grandkids parents took one look and off to a store in their city to exchange.
Mom/ Grandma finally asked, after she got over being so upset, taking all this time , trouble getting lost and all the mailing...
"Can you use Internet and just send a Gift Cert to this grandkid, I am not going through all that again...it really hurt my feelings"
No, I did not say 'I told you so' - I instead fired up a laptop and got a gift cert sent.
The other day, remote control would not open garage door, and she went totally blank in her panic as to the code on exterior key pad.
Remote just needed a new battery. She used to "fix" toys for us kids when they "quit" by putting fresh batteries in, trying to hurry, and we kids not wanting to understand how all this stuff worked "just fix it".
Mom just wanted her garage door "fixed". I reminded her of the code, and this code is so easy (secure) still easy. "I panicked and made something hard out of something easy".
Serious Situations for some of us - that feeling we get in the gut about aging parents.
One of my closest friends knew his wife was going to die of cancer. Still the morning he woke up early to get the paper, his wife was alive and spoke to him in her sleepy voice. He goes back to bed after reading and coffee and she turn over, looks at him on last time, said a few words and gone.
He knew this was going to happen, all prepared , and arrangements made...still not totally prepared when it did.
Life and some of it Serious Situations is like fishing. Too many folks want to fish way out there...
...when the fish / serious needs are much much closer to the bank.
Stretchman
member
First cane that actually hit was Andrew. I had some supplies in the room that I had on the beach. Bugged out, and rode the storm out elsewhere. Came back to teh beach, saw most people's apts had been trashed. I was lucky. Plus I had supplies, and if all else failed, I had a weapon.
Irene hit in 2000. Actually had the motorcycle out in that one. It wasn't too bad. All prep work done, and nothing really came of it except power lines.
Then, in 2004, Jeanne , and Francis. Didn't really do too much damage in my area, but I had to work them both as a security officer, and had some damage to the house from each. A little here, a little there, and it adds up.
In 2005, Katrina first, then Wilma. In Katrina we took the eye right through the neighborhood. But it wasn't too bad here, a Cat 1. Although I remember watching a telephone pole snap about 20 feet from the car. Lost power for a bit. Wilma, on the other hand, lot's of damage, leaking roof, lost a shutter, had tree branches everywhere, power gone for 10 days. Had to work through that one too. That was bad. Everywhere was trashed, but luckily for us the damage was pretty contained. Lived off of canned goods for a while. Bottled water, crank radio, flashlights, oil lamps, and cold showers. Because I was a security officer, and had duty, I was out during curfew. Most people weren't allowed out. There was little trouble, but getting gas was hard. Harder than anything, and everyone who had generators needed gas.
So, I guess that makes 6 shtf scenarios. At least this past year, there were no storms of any real consequence. I tell you what, at 45, it begins to wear you down. But when they announce a hurricane coming, you know that the time to get supplies is now. Most people have begun stocking up ahead of time, because they expect that it will come. IF it doesn't they throw a party and cook up all the canned goods and stuff and do it all again next year. Better safe than sorry.
Irene hit in 2000. Actually had the motorcycle out in that one. It wasn't too bad. All prep work done, and nothing really came of it except power lines.
Then, in 2004, Jeanne , and Francis. Didn't really do too much damage in my area, but I had to work them both as a security officer, and had some damage to the house from each. A little here, a little there, and it adds up.
In 2005, Katrina first, then Wilma. In Katrina we took the eye right through the neighborhood. But it wasn't too bad here, a Cat 1. Although I remember watching a telephone pole snap about 20 feet from the car. Lost power for a bit. Wilma, on the other hand, lot's of damage, leaking roof, lost a shutter, had tree branches everywhere, power gone for 10 days. Had to work through that one too. That was bad. Everywhere was trashed, but luckily for us the damage was pretty contained. Lived off of canned goods for a while. Bottled water, crank radio, flashlights, oil lamps, and cold showers. Because I was a security officer, and had duty, I was out during curfew. Most people weren't allowed out. There was little trouble, but getting gas was hard. Harder than anything, and everyone who had generators needed gas.
So, I guess that makes 6 shtf scenarios. At least this past year, there were no storms of any real consequence. I tell you what, at 45, it begins to wear you down. But when they announce a hurricane coming, you know that the time to get supplies is now. Most people have begun stocking up ahead of time, because they expect that it will come. IF it doesn't they throw a party and cook up all the canned goods and stuff and do it all again next year. Better safe than sorry.
AStone
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I'm rather surprised that this one has lasted over 7 hours.
Mods must be out to dinner, or something.
When the cats are away, the mice will play,
but when the cats return, the S will HTF.
SHTF that I'm planning for? Any one of X scenarios
that could disrupt the availability of food, water and security.
I envision hungry, panic-stricken hordes wandering the streets, looking for food,
and a police force overwhelmed by the chaos, some of whom having left to take care of their own.
Of course, even mentioning the main issue that I'm preparing for
would guarantee thread closure within seconds after the cats return.
<zips lips>
Mods must be out to dinner, or something.
When the cats are away, the mice will play,
but when the cats return, the S will HTF.
SHTF that I'm planning for? Any one of X scenarios
that could disrupt the availability of food, water and security.
I envision hungry, panic-stricken hordes wandering the streets, looking for food,
and a police force overwhelmed by the chaos, some of whom having left to take care of their own.
Of course, even mentioning the main issue that I'm preparing for
would guarantee thread closure within seconds after the cats return.
<zips lips>
** in before the lock! **
Mostly, civil unrest.
Secondly, as Thomas Jefferson said, "the tree of libery must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." I'm waiting for the call for myself and the rest of us to come down from the mountains. ;-)
I'm 38, I have a home in Metro Washington DC in the northern Virginia suburbs. I've been living here since college, 1991'ish. I was here when the plane hit the Pentagon on 9/11 and I drove past it a few days later. It was surrealistic, like impossible that this could be. I realized then how seriously vulnerable we are, especially those in DC and other HVT's for terrorists.
I bought my place of refuge in Hawaii in 2004, and am moving to my home in Hawaii later this year. I've been slowly moving my firearms and stockpiles of ammo to Hawaii too. My AR-15, boxes of loaded magazines, and XM193 mil-spec ammo is all in Hawaii now. The rest of my firearms will come with me when I move.
If the S* ever HTF on the mainland, either by dirty nuke, chemical, or viral attacks, I will already be half a world away, on an island, and fully armed. Hawaii is 5 hours away from the nearest mainland, either Japan or USA. It is a highly unlikely HVT for terrorists, and I picked a very unpopular, sparsely inhabited island (not Honolulu, Oahu) away from modern city life, with a population of only 15,000 in a quaint seaside town.
The only thing we have to worry about in Hawaii is earthquakes and tsunamis. Escaping up-country away from the coast with a ditch bag and firearms is the plan. Civil unrest due to natural disasters is my only real concern in Hawaii. Can't wait to escape the DC area.
Mostly, civil unrest.
Secondly, as Thomas Jefferson said, "the tree of libery must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." I'm waiting for the call for myself and the rest of us to come down from the mountains. ;-)
I'm 38, I have a home in Metro Washington DC in the northern Virginia suburbs. I've been living here since college, 1991'ish. I was here when the plane hit the Pentagon on 9/11 and I drove past it a few days later. It was surrealistic, like impossible that this could be. I realized then how seriously vulnerable we are, especially those in DC and other HVT's for terrorists.
I bought my place of refuge in Hawaii in 2004, and am moving to my home in Hawaii later this year. I've been slowly moving my firearms and stockpiles of ammo to Hawaii too. My AR-15, boxes of loaded magazines, and XM193 mil-spec ammo is all in Hawaii now. The rest of my firearms will come with me when I move.
If the S* ever HTF on the mainland, either by dirty nuke, chemical, or viral attacks, I will already be half a world away, on an island, and fully armed. Hawaii is 5 hours away from the nearest mainland, either Japan or USA. It is a highly unlikely HVT for terrorists, and I picked a very unpopular, sparsely inhabited island (not Honolulu, Oahu) away from modern city life, with a population of only 15,000 in a quaint seaside town.
The only thing we have to worry about in Hawaii is earthquakes and tsunamis. Escaping up-country away from the coast with a ditch bag and firearms is the plan. Civil unrest due to natural disasters is my only real concern in Hawaii. Can't wait to escape the DC area.
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