What size target can you reliably hit at 30 yards?

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Okay, what's really bothering me is that I don't shoot anywhere close to as well as a lot of you guys.

Some daily dry-fire practice will take you a LONG way. That was advice I received when I first started working on elevating my shooting from it's previous "close enough" standard.

I can't print the groups many of these guys do, even slow sighted fire, but I train myself for speed on multiple targets, and on a good day I can really raise hell on a berm full of clays with the 226. Being quick and accurate takes a lot of time learning to not jerk/yank/milk, or otherwise molest the trigger, especially working DA/SA.

Dry fire with a laser sight is a *fantastic* tool. You can watch that little red dot move as you break the trigger and see exactly how and where you're making your error.
 
12" pie plate

Without using iron sights, shooting instinctive, I am fairly consistent with 12" groups at 30 yards.

That's with a Ruger GP100 in .357
 
I can hit beer bottles with about 70% of my shots from most of my pistols at 40 yds. So I would say 12 oz glass beer bottle size target at 30 yds 90 % of the time.
 
Okay, what's really bothering me is that I don't shoot anywhere close to as well as a lot of you guys.

Not exactly - you don't shoot as well as some guys claim to shoot when we are posting on an anonymous Internet web site.

If all the accuracy/speed claims post on THR were accurate, the pros like Jerry Miculek would be out of business.

The pros aren't out of business. :) That tells me that something ain't quite right here. Maybe a bunch of the national champs are posting here without revealing their identities.

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All it takes is practice. A lot of these guys are talking about scoped pistols, sandbags and benchs.

My last trip to the Nationals, I was in the top 75 overall, 6th in my class. My last trip to the Inter-Service I was in the top 25. I have got past a few Olympians and former Champions in individual matches. Winning the overall and being rock solid with every gun in every stage of a match is what sets some guys apart. I shoot fine, but quite a few people shoot better than me.

I watched Brian Zins win the Nationals after dropping about 15 points with two squibs. He didn't let that rattle him and pressed on. That impressed me, he didn't start whining or give up. I'm sure when he got to the trailer, somebody got reamed, but on the firing line it was all business.

A few years ago I was at a local 2700 match and went 200-14x in the centerfire timed fire match. As we walked back to the firing line, I joked it would probably make third place. That is a smoking score and tough to beat most days. But that weekend our little match had two former national champs and an Olympian among the 12 guys on the line. It was for three dollar prizes and nobody was giving up.

Jerry Miculek is only a couple of thou faster than a ton of guys. One gun hiccup, one misstep, one bad shot and there are plenty of other shooters at most matches who can catch him. Somewhere out there is a guy training for the day he meets you.

Jerry has good marketing and a sponsor. That is as helpful as talent in this game. Most people cannot afford the ammo or time on the range it takes to be great.

That being said, go practice and enjoy shooting. Don't worry about what people say they can do. Go to a match of any kind and give it a try, you can pick up a ton of tips and experience for the price of entry fees and ammo.
 
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Okay, what's really bothering me is that I don't shoot anywhere close to as well as a lot of you guys.

Practice is fine, but you really need instruction. See if you can find an NRA certified pistol instructor. Failing that, a Master-class USPSA, IDPA, etc shooter who's willing to help you out would be great.
Remember, you're buying the lunch and the beers!!

I strongly recommend you buy a good quality air pistol. The main reason is the fact that the gun makes almost no sound, has zero recoil and you can shoot it at home safely.

In order to become a good shot, you have to learn trigger control, follow-through and how to call your shots. These are vital skills. If you want to be able to shoot up to the potential of your gun and ammo, you have to put in the time and effort needed to aquire them.

What you need to see in order to learn those skills is usually lost in the noise and gun movement of a centerfire pistol. A .22 is much better, but an air pistol makes it enormously easier. Pellets are so cheap they might as well be free. You don’t have to go to the range to get in a little trigger time. You can make a backstop out of a cardboard box and some newspapers.

The Daisy 717 is a good example of what I’m talking about.

http://www.airgunsbbguns.com/Daisy_717_Powerline_Single_Pump_Competition_p/day717.htm

The 717 is very accurate (3/4" groups at 25 ft) and doesn’t require Co2 cartridges. I’ve had mine since the late ‘70s and have worn out several sets of seals with untold tens of thousands of shots. Daisy will rebuild one of these guns for around $20. About 15 years ago, they replaced the whole gun. I’d shot it until it wouldn’t stay cocked anymore. As I recall, they charged me $18 and paid for return shipping.

Outstanding customer support.
 
Never shot a 30 yd target.
With my shaky old hands & bad eyes, I can put 6/6 in the black from a rest on a slowfire target at 25 yds with my S&W M14 and good 148 grain WCs.
At 50 yards with my CZ-52 I can hit somewhere in the rings offhand.
 
I'm new here, But here goes.
25 Yd. indoor range, 2 hands, 6 out of 6 in a bussiness card.
Done with a ruger 357 blackhawk, 6.5 in. bbl.
 
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