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What would most of you guy's think is the best all around hunting cartridge?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Beak50, Jan 28, 2012.

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  1. Beak50

    Beak50 Member

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    I've been told by my father-in-law that 3000 fps is the magic number but do you really need all that blast and power to shoot a deer or animal that size for hunting in pennsylvania?espically since I have never had a shot at one over 200yrds.And would it be worth me going out to buy one since I already have a beautiful customised winchester model 70 with a 6.5x20 leuopold on it and is by far my most accurate rifle I own.Any In put would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. jpwilly

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    30-06 IMO but if you already have a Win 70 in a cartridge that works I wouldn't worry about it unless you need an excuse to purchase something else.
     
  3. guyfromohio

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    I've never had a well-placed shot from any round kill an animal less dead.
     
  4. HOOfan_1

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    Probably something like a 6.5mm still a little small for brown bears, but it would suffice.

    IMO for deer and varmints, a 6mm Rem or .243 would be the best.

    For deer and larger, anything from .270 winchester up to .300 Win Mag

    .338 Win mag is a little big for deer, but would suffice.

    Personally, as a gun enthusiast, I don't try to pick an all around. I try to pick an approximate best for each situation.


    Small game including small varmints .22 lr or .22 Magnum, .17 HMR for those you don't care to eat
    Varmints. .17 Rem, .204 Ruger, .222, .223, .22-250, .220 Swift, .234, 6mm Rem
    Deer. .243 on up to 7mm Magnum
    Elk, Moose, Bear .30-06 up to .375 RUM
    Dangerous game .375 H&H up to 700 Nitro Mag or .577 T-rex
     
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    Shot placement comes first!! For the lower 48 states the /06 is hard to beat, if you roll your own you can shoot gophers to bear.
     
  7. nastynatesfish

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    if your not traveling anyplace to hunt and 200 max on whitetail or bear id say 308. if you ever plan on coming out west and hunt elk or mule deer? i think the 7 mag is the best choice, not the kick as the 300wm and flatter shooting better bc than 3006. i have both a 7 rem mag and a 308 win. ill never be without my 7mag. if you know anyone with one, shoot it. if you handload you can load accuratly out of a 1-9.25 twist rifle bulles from 120-175 gr bullets. i load 168gr hornady bthp or berger bthp at 2975fps.
     
  8. PapaG

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    My personal choice for an all around battery for mid-America would be a .22, a .308, and a 12 gauge. Didn't answer the question, did I. I don't have to choose one. If I did, it would be the .308. I've got bullets, jacketed, from 100 to 200 grains, and moulds from 115 to 195 grains. I can load for everything from squirrel to moose..but you can do that with virtually any 30 except for the carbine.
     
  9. jem375

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    For deer in Minnesota, the 308 is hard to beat.. there are other calibers that I have used but the 308 is my favorite deer caliber...
     
  10. txcookie

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    nother vote for 30.06 It can handle anything on NA.
     
  11. blarby

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    .30-30

    Some flavors, like vanilla, pass the test of time.

    Its taken everything walking here, and most of whats abroad.

    Simple, easy to use and maintain rifles. Reasonable recoil. If you need longer range , nw there is FTX.
     
  12. GI_Jared

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    .308

    Post up a poll
     
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    I guess the .375 H&H Magnum would be the best all round hunting cartridge.
     
  14. Mike Sr.

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    IMHO there are 3 best choices...bar none!

    ---30-30...especially now with new ammo available..

    ---308

    ---30-06

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    For me the .308 has the edge!
     
  15. jmr40

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    A well constructed 180 gr., 30 cal. bullet leaving the muzzle @ 3000 fps will kill any animal in North America and kill most of them at ranges of 600-700 yards, and with recoil that most anyone should be able to handle. It will kill even the largest game from closer ranges. That does not mean that every hunter has the need or skills to make that happen.

    For Pennsylvania whitetail at 200 yards that is way more power than needed, but you are talking about 1 specific type of hunting in your post, yet the title says "best all around hunting cartridge". For 95% of my hunting needs a 308, or 7-08 is more than adequate.

    But if I were wanting to hunt everything from polar bear on down to coyote with 1 rifle, and wanted to be able to make shots at 600-700 yards. I'd have to say one of the 300 mags would be my first choice. A 30-06 will shoot the same bullet to 2800 fps and will do all the same things, just at sightly reduced ranges, and would be a close 2nd choice.

    Your FIL law is basically right. It is just that everyones definition of "all around" is a little different. Most of us understand that we will never hunt polar bear and don't have the skills to make 700 yard shots at deer. Even though a 300 mag may be the best choice, most of us do not have the skills (or financial resources) to take advantage of it's abilities.
     
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    While I have taken every critter here in Alaska with a 7x57mm Mauser, it was marginal in some cases. On the other hand the 30-06 has done everything up here and down in the lesser 49 States for over 100 years.
    The 30-06 is the old heavy duty pick-up truck of the cartridge world.
    We in the USA do not appreciate it enough since it is always right there in front of us.
     
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    Ask him which he shoots either a Weather Magnum, or a Remington Ultra Magnum. If he bought one of those, he likely believes in the "hydrostatic shock transfer" theory. ;)

    Now, the HST theory is all good and fine. But, if fails to explain the millions of game animals kilt-dead by muzzleloaders that never came close to 3000 FPS. I think those animals posthumously should file a grievance to redeem their lives. :D

    Geno
     
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    I like the 30-30. I don't always get to hunt those stands where you can see three hundred yards, but I do get to use my climber and scout out spots where 100 yard shots are way out there.
     
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    Since I'll never go to Alaska, I chose a 7mm Remington Magnum, but hardly ever hunt deer/hog with it anymore. At the time, i was thinkin' I'd get to hunt elk and I was partial to the BCs and variety of bullets available. The 264 Win Mag had the BCs, but the bullet variety was less 20 years ago. I still have a .257 Roberts that was never broke that I shot my first deer with 48 years ago and I have a stainless .308 M7 Remington I'm rather partial to.
     
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    Interesting, I've always heard people say that the 2700 - 2800 fps range is a hunting sweet spot. I imagine that old saying has a lot to do with the performance envelope of classic cup and core style bullets.

    In reference to your questions:

    No, you obviously don't need 3k fps to kill animals cleanly, people have been successfully killing animals with decidedly slower rounds for several hundred years. As far as I know, all of these previously dispatched animals have remained dead despite advances in hunting technology and the emergence of magnum rifle rounds.

    Maybe I missed it, but what caliber is your Model 70 (I assume the 6.5x20 refers to scope dimensions)? If it is one of the cartridges normally used for deer sized game, and you don't mind taking it out hunting, I don't see why you would need another hunting rifle.

    On the other hand, if your Win 70 really is a strikingly beautiful rifle, or has sentimental value, you may not want to subject it to the wear and dings that hunting rifles tend to accumulate. In this case, a decent cheaper rifle chambered in any of the popular deer calibers ('06, 270, .308, 7-08, .243, .260 etc.) should serve you well and you won't have to worry about blemishing your custom rifle.
     
  21. W.E.G.

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    One round for everything from bunny to griz?

    Aint no such thing.
     
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    Plain and simple a 30-06. 165gr or 180gr and you have anything for hunting game in north america
     
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  24. Deputy25

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    30-06, although I'm fond of my .300 Winchester too.
     
  25. mshootnit

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    30-06 is pretty close.:D
     
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