What would you do in this situation: Police officer acts weird?

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Quoting Caimlas ,2) Ask him, "Oh, I forgot where I parked. Could you lead me?"
This is GREAT; though, I did know some guys that got tanked up, went to the big mall 30 mi. away to play video games and forgot where their car was.....until all the other people at the mall went home for the night.:neener:
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Rob
 
Okay, what really happened...and why I care

Okay, as many of you can guess, that guy was a serial killer, Ted Bundy. When he pulled out the crowbar, in one account I was reading it said she caught the crowbar with her hand right before it cracked her skull (the thought of that makes me want to cringe), then ran away. The other account I read said she kicked him in the genitals, then ran away. In real life, he called himself Officer Roseland, not Officer Hargus. He didn't have a Ford Taurus, but a VW bug, but I didn't want to say "VW bug" because that would be too far fetched because it was from the 1970s. I was wondering about leaving out the part when he acted in control like an officer at the mall saying someone was breaking into her car, because I wasn't so interested in what someone would do there and thought it would distract from my main concern, but then leaving that part out wouldn't let the situation develop to the part about going to "police headquarters" and would be too choppy. I guess some people, like this girl who was the only one to escape from Ted Bundy after being kidnapped, spend too much time in confirmation bias by seeing why what other people say may be true rather than looking for why it may be wrong. Just like I feel when I see so many people tell other people that they had a class covering handwritting analysis and that they can analyze people using it. I always call BS on them because the results are almost always something that applies to anyone. However, a lot of people still say "Wow, that is me!" when they hear their results read to them.

The real reason why I asked about this scenario isn't because I doubt a suspicion light would come on in my head in a situation like this (I think a lot of people would be skeptical), but because if one does people are always saying to go along with the police officer if you don't want to get tased, pepper sprayed, etc, and work it out in court later on. That's good if they have a uniform, but if they have plain clothes, show me an ID, and then don't want me to verify with 911 to make sure they are who they say they are and to keep my hands out of my pockets where he can see them, I don't want to get in trouble in court if I apply "force" to them and they happen to be LE. At the same time, I don't want some nut case serial killer using techniques on me that I instantly become suspicious about. Some accounts say that this girl even said she felt quite suspicious once he said "police headquarters" and showed the VW bug, even though he showed his badge, but make it sound like she didn't know what to do. One of the accounts I looked at said that she refused his instruction to buckle her safety belt before they took off.
 
wow. so this really did happen, kinda makes you wonder just how true the "sheeple" idea must be, it's scary to think that there are actually people who would go along with this scenerio.

GuyWithQuestions said:
The real reason why I asked about this scenario isn't because I doubt a suspicion light would come on in my head in a situation like this (I think a lot of people would be skeptical), but because if one does people are always saying to go along with the police officer if you don't want to get tased, pepper sprayed, etc, and work it out in court later on.

um, what people are always saying to "go along with the police officer" when he is not in uniform? sure if he is uniformed then I would be more responsive to his requests, but I am NOT getting in a vehicle unless I am

A) under arrest or
B) can get in touch with 911 dispatch to verify this officer is who he says he is and has a legitimate reason for asking me to "go for a ride"

a badge and a title do not grant immunity from suspicion, to be perfectly honest, they often times are more reason to be suspicious.
 
The fact that it was a VW Bug triples what I said about her being an idiot. I can even almost understand a Taurus, because I've seen police departments use them, but a Bug? In third-grade terminology she is a "Double-Mega-Super-Ultra-Idiot" (Which, oddly enough, is how Extreme Shock advertises their Double-Mega-Super-Ultra-Fangface)

Now, before everyone starts posting pictures of a Bug with "Police" written on it, I'm sure some department somewhere has done it.

I'll leave you with this: never in a million years could guy in jeans and a t-shirt walk up to me at the mall point to his 78' AMC Pacer and convince me he was a cop and that I needed to get in the car. A Delorean, maybe, but not a Pacer.

This girl may have survived but not due to wit. She survived on pure fear and animal instinct.
 
Spoken like two true idiots. (Not you, Tallpine, you posted before I did.)

I went to school, to the Marine Corps, to college, and into Law Enforcement.

My entire life has revolved around obeying authority and being authority.

Knowing when and where to obey authorty is part of life, my friend. You insinuations that obeying authority is (always) wrong is an irresponsible thing to say. If you want anarchy, feel free to go live a third world nation. Write to me and let me know how it works out for you.
 
There are some very skilled charismatic bastards out there. A confidence man may not be out to just clean your bank account. And yes, we are TRAINED to be obedient and compliant, more so now than in the past.
 
There are some very skilled charismatic bastards out there. A confident man may not be out to just clean your bank account.

There sure are. In fact, we vote them into office all the time.
 
My wife and I experienced something very close to this while across a parking lot to go to a cafe back when we were in doctoral school.

Obviously we just kept walking past the fool. He soon followed us inside and tired again...flashing his "badge". At that point I was less tolerant, so he went to trying his luck on other people, specifically a young lady seated alone near us.

The cafe owner did nothing, didn't even call the police. At that point, we invited the young lady to sit at our table, and invited him to leave. He did leave with me on his heals. I then filed a police report. The police knew exactly who he was. Guess it wasn't his first time.
 
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From what I understand, Ted Bundy was the type of person who could sell ice to an eskimo. He lured victims in many various ways. Even though police were suspicious that he was a suspect many times, he would just deny and found ways out of it. He put his excution date back many times by finding ways to manipulate and manipulating others to manipulate into putting the date back.

Jeffrey Dalmer was manipulative too. He drugged a boy right before he was going to strangle him. Then the neighbors called the police when they saw a boy was trying to escape. The police came over and the kid was drugged out and couldn't communicate. The girl who called 911 said that he was attacking the boy and he was trying to escape (which was the truth). Jeffrey Dalmer said that they were having a homosexual relationship (with like a 13 year old) and I think he also said that he was drunk. So without getting any statements from the teenage boy, the police officer told the girl that they couldn't do anything about peoples' sex lives and left. Jeffrey Dalmer was also on probation (I believe for doing things to boys or something similar, can someone verify?), but they didn't even check for a criminal background. The police only went into the front room, but if they would have gone one more room over, they would have seen dead bodies. After the officer left, Jeffrey strangled the boy, then cut off his head and did many other things.
 
GuyWithQuestions...

This just adds more ammo to the case that I've long sought to make... Police do not do a whole lot other than write traffic tickets and tend to the scene AFTER the crap has gone down...

We ought to be able to (by law), and we must be willing to (mentally/emotionally/etc), defend ourselves and tend to our own safety.
 
This just adds more ammo to the case that I've long sought to make... Police do not do a whole lot other than write traffic tickets and tend to the scene AFTER the crap has gone down...

You tell 'em EOTech! And while you're at it, write to the Governor and have him pardon all the burglers and robbers we arrested trying to escape the scene. After all we should have been writing traffic tickets to nuns!

Or better yet, EOTech, how about you post how many violent felons YOU'VE arrested, and I'll post how many violent felons I'VE arrested, and TheHighRoad folk can decide who "doesn't do a whole lot" to protect the public.

I'll even start. Today I wrote ZERO traffic tickets and arrested two felony larceny suspects, one who was DUI while beating his wife, and one additional aggravated assault suspect.

What have you done for your community today?
 
Why would a security guard need to take you to the police station anyway? If there was one guy trying to get me into an unmarked car, I'd raise enough of a hassle that they'd call for back up.

Even if it were a "cop car" take a real close look. Here's my car:

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About the only way to tell it's not real is the licence plate - Indiana unmarked cars still have police plates. And the local cars don't use pushbars. To put the lights back on would be simple with parts from ebay, so don't go on looks alone!
 
follow your intuition!!

"Go with your gut feelings, if it doesn't feel right it probably isn't"
--CWL

Truer words were never spoken. Gavin DeBecker wrote a book called The Gift of Fear and the whole point of the book was to listen to your intuition. Even if you can't figure out right at that moment WHY something is wrong, your subconscious may have picked up some danger signs.

Go with your instincts and don't try to over-analyze them or rationalize them away.
 
I have seen used squads for sale before and people do drive these.

Do any of you remember the story a few weeks back about the gal that had a unmarked squad try and pull her over, so she 911 d it. Turned out that they did not have any units in the area and instructed her to keep driving until they could get some units too her. Next thing she knew the police surrounded the car behind her, turned out to be a rapist / robber.

So in when in doubt 911 it and ask the dispatcher, if it is a actual police officer they will not have an issue with this.
 
Sheldon, that's an urban legend...

http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/fakecop.asp


Do any of you remember the story a few weeks back about the gal that had a unmarked squad try and pull her over, so she 911 d it. Turned out that they did not have any units in the area and instructed her to keep driving until they could get some units too her. Next thing she knew the police surrounded the car behind her, turned out to be a rapist / robber.

So in when in doubt 911 it and ask the dispatcher, if it is a actual police officer they will not have an issue with this
 
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