Would you have used your handgun in this situation?

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....Next it is if your life isn't in danger let them rape/rob/whatever you and just comply and they wont hurt you too badly.

Where are you people ever going to draw a Line and enforce laws ?!

What is next "O well no one important died" and then "well at least only one person got Killed " and then we progress on to"O well they only killed half the neighborhood"

Lastly you fools will be sitting back and saying "O well they eventually get too tired , drunk and stoned to keep up the killing and then you can run away !!!"
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Let there be no doubt,..that if my safety, or the safety of my family, loved ones, friends and neighbors were involved,...I would intervene for certain.

Property? Well,..yes,..I have worked hard to acquire what I have,..and I do value my possessions,....but I also insure them.

I might advise the BGS to cease and desist,..and advise them to play nice,... and wait for the LE to show up,..and if they objected,..I might have to take it to the next stage if they presented an iminent threat,...

But what I am NOT going to do is "John Wayne" it,....and barge in with guns blazing to do so. One:..there are better tactics and strategies than getting ones hind end shot to hell and back. (Have been there done it,..and it wasn't fun). Two: If I had to take a life,...and I have,..and I would again if need be,..it needs to be for a very good reason. I am just not certain that doing so for a material possession that can be replaced would be worth the sleepless nights,..and yes,..the possible legal ramifications of a stupid legal system that are going to follow.

So,..I guess until you have personally popped a cap in anger on somebody,..and have taken a life as a result,..and maybe you have,...I don't know,....but until you have,... if you haven't,..I'd recommend you not be so quick to beat your chest in condemnation of anothers choice. After all,..it is THEIR choice. You make you own. I'll make mine.
 
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In NYC or LA if no ones life is in danger? First, it is very difficult or near impossible to get a CCW permit in a lot of those liberal, large cities. If by chance you did have a permit or perhaps had a weapon without a permit and the police show up, chances are YOU are in more trouble than the bad guys. In areas like that I would call 911 however many times and hope my homeowners insurance is paid up, MAYBY try to block or disable the BG vehicle (if they had one). If a life or serious bodily injury was in the equation I probably would pull the gun and let the chips fall where they may.

In Mayberry Texas however, it's a different story. If the BG is getting away and you think you need to stop him, shoot. Knowing the people I did in small towns Texas, I would not want to be caught in someones house robbing the place. It's shoot first, call the Sheriff when the smoke clears.

Personally I prefered Texas, just moved to rural Virginia when I retired.
 
+1 Mainsail

I remember that shoot out,...It was big news in the military community, and not just at Ft. Lewis then. Wasn't just the one Ranger involved either,..understand it was a "chalk" of them that just all happened to live in the same neighborhood. Banger's picked the wrong hood to play around in that day.
 
Amazing how many of you people are being indoctrinated into this left wing garbage of being "Nonviolent" for this reason or that .
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When I come home, I have kids with me. Blazing into the driveway sideways and storming my house could put my kids at risk. Jumping into action right away isn't always the best solution, particularly when I have time to plan a reaction. Calling 911 is step one. Handling it from there is tricky. I can't just run in with my gun drawn. That's hardly self defense. In my state the laws are tricky. I can shoot someone while they are entering my home, assuming I am inside of it. Once inside, they have to present a deadly threat. If they are in my home and I am not, then clearly there is no deadly threat. I'm not going to draw down with my 6 year old at my side when I could step away and let a burglar that is unaware of my presence walk off with my TV.

If there is no deadly threat (rape qualifies as a deadly threat since you mentioned that) then I have no reason to escalate the situation if my loved ones are near me. That is my choice. I'm not endangering a loved one because I'm too proud back the truck up and get them out of harms way while some punk has the possibility of stealing my stuff.


Is it right? I don't care, I don't want to be prosecuted and make the lowlifes breaking into my house into victims and potential lawsuits.

Would I wait two hours? Absolutely not. I would send the kids off with someone and I would attempt to scare the thieves off once my family has left the area. They aren't going to stick around once they know someone knows they are there. I would avoid a course of action that looks like I am baiting a gunfight. This is all purely hypothetical. I won't know what I would do until I was there as there are way to many variables. Several things would factor into the response such as proximity to other houses, close by friends, my kids' location, time of day or night, suspect vehicles in my yard, suspects on foot etc.



Lastly you fools
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Awesome, name calling.
 
The response you have totally depends on your situation and your core beliefs. If you do not want to endanger yourself or anyone else you would wait on the cops. However, if you believe as I do- that your property is YOURS and no one has any right to it then you will confront the a**holes in your house with threats of violent action, and if they do not cease and desist - be 100% prepared to defend yourself and your property.

My core belief is that I have invested my life into what I own, and I will be damned if any lowlife thinks they have a right to it without risking their own personal safety.

I was asked yesterday why my wife and I carry weapons (by another native) in such a safe area, and my response was 'you should always be prepared'.
 
In Kentucky, if a man breaks into my house, you can legally shoot him on the spot. If he tries to steal your car out of your drive way, you can't... just call the cops. BUT if he pours gas on your barn and lights the match to burn it down, you can legally shoot him on the spot.

It is not a matter of self defense when a BG is in your home. It is a matter of my home IS my castle. I will defend my castle to the bloody end.

Oh yeah, if someone wants me to cite the law, tough luck. I spent time and money on this already and don't wish to go through my stack of books to find the exact wording, but for $75 a CCW class will provide the accurate info.
 
if i call 911 and am told that i will not be helped, then i would tell them that i don't expect to be prosecuted when i use force to defend my property.

at the very least i would block in their vehicle if they had one and wait for them to come out and demand that they lay on the ground. if my plan worked and they complied i would call 911 and tell them i have the suspects at gunpoint and see how long it takes the police to arrive then. if my plan didn't work i'd most likey be in gunfight with multiple criminals or they would have dropped my possesions and took off at the sight of my gun.
 
However, if you believe as I do- that your property is YOURS and no one has any right to it then you will confront the a**holes in your house with threats of violent action, and if they do not cease and desist - be 100% prepared to defend yourself and your property.

My core belief is that I have invested my life into what I own, and I will be damned if any lowlife thinks they have a right to it without risking their own personal safety.
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you must have some good stuff.

Amazing how many of you people are being indoctrinated into this left wing garbage of being "Nonviolent" for this reason or that .
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Actually for me it’s a Christian thing.
 
you must have some good stuff
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It is not a matter of how nice my stuff is, it is a matter of it is MY stuff. No one has a right to come into my home and take MY possessions that do not belong to them. I did not say that I would go in gun blazing, or take pockshots at the BG from outside. I simply stated that if the BG does not stop taking MY things that DO NOT belong to them, or threaten me for attempting to defend MY things, then I WILL do whatever is necessary to stop their actions.
 
No, I would not have. I would have called the cops and let them handle it

Luckily for me, I don't live in an area where I would have to wait 1.5-2 hours for them to show up. They aren't far down the road from me, so maybe about 10 minutes tops
 
Well, I would have waited as long as it took for the cops to get there, because that's what they get paid for, and they are the professionals and they are the experts and...

And if it came down to it I would have camped in a tent in my yard because if the bad guys were in my house, I couldn't go in there. I would have checked every morning when I woke up in the tent in my yard to see if either they were gone of if the police/experts/professionals had arrived. ...(whiney voice off)
 
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