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When name calling hits home!

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Sam ... I can understand ... fear can drive people to do horrible things ... war and what goes on during military operations can be very brutal, primitive and ugly. The soldier in uniform can easily become the symbol for that which is feared. People do not willingly talked about their fears very often. In misdirecting the fear, a dishonest relationship can be one of the outcomes. Very painful indeed that resulting lack of trust, for upon trust is love, and all the good that goes with that idea, built. I do not understand peoples actions at times, but believe today that those actions are based either upon love, or upon fear. My war was not a war of the uniformed soldier ... I never received outright negative expressions, or demonstrations resulting from my service. My service work was involved in USAF secret operations. It was the people I worked for that denied me, misrepresented my work and forbid me to speak the truth about that secret operation. I feared those that were in charge of that secret operation, and even to this day that fear lingers.

Yes I can certainly understand your feelings, when that which you do in the service of your country, that you do in honesty and good faith, gets mocked, misrepresented and chastised. Does it heal ? Time heals all wounds, and wounds all heals I am told. You might look at the life of a 4 year old, as she grew to age 11 in Afghanistan. I read this ... http://hotzone.yahoo.com/b/hotzone/blogs2986 ... and my wounds pale in comparison. I feel grateful that I am alive, in the land of promise ... no matter how bad it sucks at times, it sure beats the rest of the world. You stood tall beside the most beautiful flag ever designed. Smile and know you did good.
 
Armymp - A big "thank you" here! You are fighting evil and a lot of people have lost the ability to differentiate between evil and good. They will know when they get bitten by it.
 
Funny thing is there are only a few out there making the fuss but they can make your life a little less than fun. I got spit on and called a baby killer and that was while I was a Navy diver in RI. Who would have thought those same people wouldn’t have grown up since ’69.

Try to not let it get to you. Know you did the right thing and they are the sick ones, their minds are poisoned by the hatred or liberalism. Thirty years from now you will be able to look back, just as I am doing now, and know that you are a man and you have what it takes, they will still be worms and they will still be crying about it.
 
I recall a time back in 1975 I was travelling from Memphis to Dallas via bus. I was wearing my Navy uniform, no ribbons yet, and relatively new to the Navy. During the trip, I forget exactly where, but some young woman came up to me, spat on me and called me a baby killer. I was like......WTFO???? I had even been in Nam, will never go to Nam and was still in training. Fortunately for her, I don't go around beating on women.

Best I can tell you is to de-Mil your vehicle as much as possible. People like to attack vehicles because they can't fight back. I know it sucks, but it could get worse. After I returned from Gulf War 1, people had some respect for the military. I guess that's because it was a quick conflict and wasn't as drawn out as OIF has become. I'm afraid the anti-war sentiment is only going to get worse. It doesn't help when we have politicians voicing their uneducated opinions, toeing their party line, and a media that's subversive as any communist ever was in the McCarthy era.
 
Man, I am rubbing my palm down my face in disbelief reading some of these stories of disrespect.
It is amazing what the Vietnam Era did to this country. It still resonates to this day. Amazing.
 
Ask them if they go into Wal-Mart and harrass cashiers or to the post office and give the mailman a hard time? As a member of the military you do your job as you are told to do it, the blame (if any) rests squarely on the shoulders of the people making the decisions and that's a damn long way from any enlisted man or woman. Having served 20 plus years I can say there is a lot of crap I did that I do not in any way support on a personal level but then that is not what the job is about. In the end you can be proud to have served your country and for most of us, that is enough. Good job for doing your duty and smile to yourself when they attack you because you know the only reason they can get away with it is because of your own sacrifice. Welcome Home!
 
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Last week I was at a local buffet restaurant that I frequent.
There were two young service men in uniform a couple of people behind me
I don't know their names ranks and am not even sure of what branch they served in.

I paid for their meal and told the cashier to keep it between us

For every asshat out there there are ten more that would be proud to support the service men and women
 
This is despicable, and rest-assured those thoughts and actions are not shared by the multitude of Americans - not the real ones, anyway. Generally these things are said and done by those too ignorant to be able to form words of civil, thoughtful disagreement - they are not worth your time or energy.

Your sacrifice and service is genuinely appreciated - God Bless you and your wife and hold your head high!

(BTW - were I to ever witness such an event I would not hesitate to show my disgust in the most forceful manner possible.)
 
Soldier(s)...Hold your head high and drive on. I hope you know in your heart and soul that the few idiots you encounter in your lifetime speak for a very small minority of people, and that minority is flat out WRONG!

I'll leave it at that.

Thank you, and every veteran on this board for serving.

Roger, out.

VFW Member, Post 6041, Bonner Springs, KS
 
ArmyMP119...

I hope you take the positive words in these posts as overriding the actions of those idiots brushing up against your life.

If you are in R.I., you might take a ride down to Newport. My daughter is at the Naval Academy Prep school there and she reports many positive experience with the local townfolk.

I'm thinking I agree with DKSuddeth.. I really like that word he made up....

Thank you for your service..

migoi
 
Sir, Thank You for your service to this country. Truthfully, THR in this case would be executing such scum like the common dogs that they are. Unfortunately, there are laws against such actions. On a slightly more upbeat note, this civilian thanks you from the bottom of his heart for protecting the rights granted him by this great country.
 
I know this sounds corny but it is the truth. As bad as it makes you feel when someone calls you name or disrespects you, rest assured that that person feels worse than that every moment of their lives. They are trying to bring you down to where they live, and words simply cannot do that. Be happy that you are worth being called a name by little people. They see that you have something to be proud of and they hate you for it because they know it is something that they will never have.
 
Free speech, free expression and free association

What these anti-war people fail to understand is that we too have the right to be free OF their speech, free OF their expression, and free to NOT associate with them.

Their right to exercise the aforementioned freedoms does not mean we have to indulge them, rather simply tolerate them.

As my one graduate professor used to say,

"Your right to wildly swing your arms around stops about 1 foot from my nose; your right to express yourself stops where you insult my family, or me in the presence of my family; your right to enter my property does even exit unless I say it does".

Just makes sense.

So, armymp119, thank-you for serving and risking your health, safety and well-being. I assure you that more Americans DO appreciate your efforts than those who do not.

God bless,

Doc2005
 
Try not to let the name-calling get to you, MP. There are far more Americans that understand your sacrifice and performance of duty than the mindless bastards who unthinkingly call names. Far more.

After the Vietnam war, more than half the country indulged in similar disgusting acts; many regret it today. Some of us haven't completely forgiven them. There's a lot of hatred in the lefties of America today. Ignore them if you can. Thanks for your service.

TC
 
I'm sorry to hear that. So far this time around it seems as if most of the country is much more supportive of veterans than after Vietnam. Rest assured that such behavior would be followed by a severe talking to, at the least, in Oklahoma.

Thank you for what you've done for your country.

Let me suggest one way to deal with this.

Imagine you are standing there and the person who insults you is standing a short distance off. When they say something, imagine that it falls between the two of you rather than reaching all the way to you. Look at it from a distance. In other words, back off from what is said and ask yourself or the other person, "Why do you say that?" rather than responding to the actual comment.

If you can do that I think you will find pity in your heart for a person who can say such a mean-spirited thing to a veteran. Probably they are jealous of your courage, self-discipline, and sacrifice. They realize that they are incapable of such behavior, and so they hate anyone who is capable of living with honor and courage.
 
I couldn't accurately speculate why you were called names since around here that behavior is so poorly received that nobody I am even remotely aware of has attempted it.

I can say that cowards never appreciate being reminded of their cowardice and I think some people are resentful of the military because they would like to be the kind of person who serves in the military; but cannot overcome their own fears about the sacrifices involved. For that tiny few, the military is an omnipresent reminder of their own personal failures.
 
I've never served, but I am SO thankful for those who have stepped up and made that commitment. As a teacher, I try to remind my students that there are, as the phrase goes, "those who stand ready" to protect us.
Thank you for your service. I'm glad for you and your family that you're home safely.
 
I just wanted to say from me and my wife thank you! I wish that we could all meet for a cold beer! You have all helped me see that I have more surport then I ever knew! Someday this war is going to end and all our troops will be home and we will stand ready to do what needs to be done. I can not express how much it means to me that so many people surport us even if they don't agree with whats going on. Thank you again!
 
What about it?

Hey, is that small PX still there on Battalion Avenue next to that Popeye's Restaurant?
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Is that small PX still there? I have no idea? Nor does anyone else who hasn't been there.

You are getting a lot of sympathy here, as should anyone in the position you describe.

You are also seeing some surprise on the part of posters. After all, this time is nothing like it got to be in the VietNam era. Even then there were people who opposed the war who respected the troops. There were people who thought our troops were being used in that war for purposes that were immoral. I didn't know many people opposed to VietNam but I did know some veterans who were.

So, armymp119, can we see some ID?
 
You are going to get this. You have to learn to turn the other cheek. You have to realize that for every action there will be an equal and opposite reaction. You have to realize that not everyone will agree with you and will take their frustration out on you. You have two choices, ignore them or choke the everloving s#it out of them.

It's part of the job.

It's unfortunate because the only name you all deserved to be called is hero.
 
my experience as a college student has introduced me to these anti-american soldier haters. there is no reasoning with these people, they are content in their little marxist fantasy world.

I wouldnt suggest the following, but its how my Military friends handle the situation. They rough em up!

My friends arent career military, they are have been in for close to 4 years and want to get jobs, school etc. They have a very low boiling point when it comes to their peers giving them a hard time.

When the police roll up to a veteran whooping as on an anti-war protester, charges are usually not filed. Thats why My friends take the liberty. You just have to know the difference between liberals and leftists and then take aim.
 
Armymp,
First thanks for your service, and of course I'm sorry to hear about your problems. There are nutjobs out there. I was in AFROTC during 'Nam. I was spat on, had blood thrown on my, and of course there was brown stuff included too.

It was tough, but I remembered the old saying that Freedom isn't free. I know those words sound hollow, but it's true.

Konw that people who understand the big picture know what the soldiers are doing is critical to the survival of our country, and for that matter all of Western Civilization. No other country in the world had/has the guts to stand up for what's right.

Hang in there ok?
 
Thank you for your service. You have my respect and I say that you are a man of honor because of the sacrifice you have made. Who gives a rip what anyone else thinks, most people in this country are good and appreciate what you have done and continue to do.

You didn't happen to catch their address did you?? Me and my two Marine friends could take care of that problem for you.:cool:

Just kidding.
 
Flag, I'm really sorry to hear that. All this does is support the nutjobs who think that all soldiers are blood thrusty killers.

I've found it takes more guts to turn your back and leave. Does it make you angry, you bet. I know I've been there. But in the long run, stooping to the enemy's level only hurts you.
 
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