When the hg68 dosent feed is the 130 better

[AJC1]

Looking at bullet designs after trying in veign to get the hg68 to feed in my kimber commander. The hg130 has been mentioned as a better option and apparently noe makes a mold. Anyone using that mold and having good success?

 

[earplug]

Loosen your extractor tension.

 

[forrest r]

The lyman 452460 is another option or the 452488 (130 clone). The 452460 uses a 1.160" OAL. The 452448 uses a 1.20" OAL.

You might try making up dummy rounds using the H&G68 and seating them to those OAL's Then do test runs seeing if they will feed/hand cycle.

Odd you couldn't get the 68 to feed, couldn't even begin to count how many 1911's I've owned over the decades. Every 1 of them ran 100% using the h&g 68's using the standard 1.250" OAL & a .468/.469" taper crimp

 

[lordpaxman]

Tagging in as interested.
@AJC1 , what’s the exact failure? It may point to a mag lip problem rather than a bullet profile, but either way it’s frustrating.

 

[Engineer1911]

The lyman 452460 is another option or the 452488 (130 clone). The 452460 uses a 1.160" OAL. The 452448 uses a 1.20" OAL.
You might try making up dummy rounds using the H&G68 and seating them to those OAL's Then do test runs seeing if they will feed/hand cycle.
Odd you couldn't get the 68 to feed, couldn't even begin to count how many 1911's I've owned over the decades. Every 1 of them ran 100% using the h&g 68's using the standard 1.250" OAL & a .468/.469" taper crimp

My 2¢ for what it is worth. The H&G #68 is the long nosed 200 gr semi-wadcutter, the H&G #130 is the short nosed 200 gr swc. I have a 1970's Colt GC that will feed either bullet without jamming using a 0.469" / 0.470" case crimp and OAL + 1.250". It will not feed 185 gr jacketed swc factory match bullets. I have a compact 45 acp Kimber with 3-1/2" (?) that feeds the long nosed bullets trouble free. Also, my other 1911 45 acp pistols shoot the long nose bullet without any problems. Not all will feed the short nose.

I have both 4-caviity Lyman molds. The short nose bullet has a flat base (200 gr), the long nosed Lyman mold has the top surface machined off to make the mold a flat base bullet (185 gr). I have the Lee 6-cavity H&G #68 clone that also had a bevel base. I carefully cut out the bevel base inside each cavity with a new utility knife blade, and burnished the ID at the base with a 0.452 pin gage to smooth the surface. Lee bullet weight is 215 gr.

 

[brewer12345]

If the hg68 is no bueno, I have heard a lot of good things about the Lee 230 grain tc molds.

 

[jmorris]

Assuming it runs fine with something, one of the first things I do if a 1911 doesn’t want to feed a particular profile bullet, in a round that will “plunk” and pass a case gauge, is try another brand of magazine. Once they will feed and chamber an empty case bullet profile/seating depth doesn’t seem as important.

It’s not uncommon for one to function better with a particular brand, as they are slightly different. It only takes a minute and looks something like this.

 

[AJC1]

If the hg68 is no bueno, I have heard a lot of good things about the Lee 230 grain tc molds.

I had one of their 230 molds that got damaged and it worked well. I have another mold that I believe is a 130 style if not I'll go back to the cones.

 

[AJC1]

Assuming it runs fine with something, one of the first things I do if a 1911 doesn’t want to feed a particular profile bullet, in a round that will “plunk” and pass a case gauge, is try another brand of magazine. Once they will feed and chamber an empty case bullet profile/seating depth doesn’t seem as important.

It’s not uncommon for one to function better with a particular brand, as they are slightly different. It only takes a minute and looks something like this.

I currently only have one mag and so far it's been trouble free. I may pick up a kimber 8 round as the factory mag was black and lost a year back or so. This is what I have.

 

[jmorris]

Will it feed/chamber an empty case with your pistol from slide lock?

 

[AJC1]

Will it feed/chamber an empty case with your pistol from slide lock?

No that is the primary issue. I can breach load one and the rest will cycle. I ran seating depth tests from 1.267 till the bullet shank was flush with the case at 1.220 ish in 10ths steps.

 

[AJC1]

All in the name of testing

 

[AJC1]

Well the new mag feeds them all including those at 1.260, because in a 1911 its always the mag

 

[jmorris]

Don’t chunk those Cobra mags, next 1911 you get might love them, lots do.

 

[AJC1]

Don’t chunk those Cobra mags, next 1911 you get might love them, lots do.

I needed a second and it's great for every other thing I load so it's not going anywhere.

 

[forrest r]

Glad you have it sorted out.

I've run the cheap metalform 1911/45acp mags for decades without any issues using cramer #5, lyman 452460 &452488, H&G #68 and #130's along with several clones swc's. Along with hardball, 1r, 2r, along with a bunch of different jacketed hp's, home swaged bullets along with odd shaped cast bullets like these that use the short 1.180 oal.


I have yet to find a bullet that the metalform mags won't feed. Now the chip mccormick 10 round shooting star mags I use for blasting dirt clods @ 10 paces are a little more picky then the metalform mags.