When will the single pocket sized 9mm fad die?

[improperlyaged]

I hate these guns. They are not truly pocket-able and that means you have to carry them on your hip. Why on earth would you carry a gun on your hip that carries 3 to 5 rounds less than its double stack counter part, that is hard to control and difficult to shoot? I think it is just a fad that will eventually go away when everyone starts seeing that their "slim" 9mm is less than 1/16 inch slimmer than the double stack.

 

[guyfromohio]

It's a good thing there are no mandatory purchasing requirements. Not every situation allows for a Double-stack. My PPS in a IWB disappears. My PCR doesn't. When absolute discretion is needed, I make do with 8 rnds. Perhaps when open carry is more accepted and Gun-free zones are a thing of the past....


Disclaimer: I don't open carry, but the freedom to do so alleviates a degree of worry.

 

[OilyPablo]

Get bigger pockets.

Sig P938 and Kahr PM/CM-9 fit fine in my pocket - plus there are a couple smaller. And some people want a small 9 for IWB or other deep concealment and body shape doesn't allow bigger.

Not a fad at all, my friend.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

When will the single pocket sized 9mm fad die?

I don't think it will die--but I doublt it will ever be much more than a relatively small niche market.

As you note, most of "pocket 9mms" aren't really THAT small, and are marginally tolerable to shoot, and just a hair larger than pocket size. But there are times when a small 9mm seems to make more sense than a somewhat larger 9mm that can't be concealed quite as easily. If I have the chose of a smaller 9mm or a .32, I'll probably go withe smaller 9mm.

 

[rondog]

Hate isn't a very Christian attitude.....

It's a matter of personal preference, that's why there's so many choices. Don't like 'em, don't buy 'em, simple as that. But don't rag on people that DO like them. Ain't no skin off your nose, now is it?

 

[Zaydok Allen]

This thread is axiomatically wrong.

Consider the small pinfire revolvers with folding triggers, the derringer, velodog revolvers, the old Colt semiauto guns....the list goes on and on. For as long as firearms have existed, there has been a solid market for small concealable carry guns. Single stack 9mm's are the next logical outcome, though I prefer my single stack 45.

That need will never go away, unless open carry is mandated by law.

Hate isn't a very Christian attitude.....

Sure hope that's a joke.

 

[TarDevil]

Because weight makes a big difference to people with serious back issues.

Because we want the 9mm power.

Because we want all the above in a more controllable format.

 

[DaleCooper51]

I have stubby fingers and have trouble with most double stack guns. I am glad there are single stack options. My shield rides nicely IWB.

 

[jamesinalaska]

That's a loaded question.

 

[handloader357]

Different strokes for different folks. Whether you are carrying a single or double, I'm just glad there are good people carrying something they are comfortable with. Granted it's not a 9, i carry a single stack that i know and love and know I'll hit my target if the unfortunate need arise.

Please don't hate people's carry choice, this day and age we all need to band together.

 

[AustinTX]

Good trolling, OP.

 

[Goju]

Since when does single stack equate to pocket carry? My 3914 is neither hard to carry nor difficult to shoot / control.

 

[RustyShackelford]

Single stack 9mm(9x19mm) pistols.....

Defense & CCW size single stack 9mm pistols have been around decades.
They are hardly a fad or faze, .
The S&W model 39-2 9x19mm custom by top designers like Paris Theodore(ASP 9mm) & Devel were highly rated by serious gunners & quiet professionals.

The SIG P225 aka: P6(German law enforcement sidearm) was also compact & robust. A SIG P225 9mm or a brace of them, meant you were ready for action. Cops, PIs, EP agents(bodyguards) all packed P225s during the 1980s/1990s.

The sales and demand for the M&P Shields and S-A XDs line should also show how even modern era gunners/CCW license holders want a compact single stack DA/DA only pistol.
The new Glock 43 9x19mm should take off. It might not replace the Shield series but Glock USA will sell a boatload of them. I will wait 10/12mo then snag a Glock 43 9mm also.

 

[hAkron]

I have a single stack 9mm and it's very difficult to pocket carry, so I agree. Does anybody know if they make thinner grips for the SIG P225?

Seriously though, my shield fits in the front pocket of pretty much every pair of jeans I own.

 

[MachIVshooter]

I hate these guns. They are not truly pocket-able and that means you have to carry them on your hip.

Depends on your pockets, and there certainly are some tiny ones. I wear 33-34 Wranglers, and back pocket carry a Diamonback DB9. It is ever so slightly larger than the Kel Tec P3AT, and only 2 ounces heavier.

PF9, DB9, P3AT:

 

[FireInCairo]

Hate isn't a very Christian attitude.....

It's a matter of personal preference, that's why there's so many choices. Don't like 'em, don't buy 'em, simple as that. But don't rag on people that DO like them. Ain't no skin off your nose, now is it?

There's no prohibition to hating inanimate objects in the Bible.

As far as the fad goes, I agree there's always been a desire for such guns and that will continue even if open carry becomes prevalent like the old west.

Also, smaller people benefit from smaller guns even on the hip. I can conceal a CM9 on my hip in a small owb holster with a windbreaker on. My XDsc is just a bit too big to be as comfy.

 

[OilyPablo]

i have a single stack 9mm and it's very difficult to pocket carry, so i agree. Does anybody know if they make thinner grips for the sig p225?

hahahahahha!!

 

[TomJ]

Because weight makes a big difference to people with serious back issues.

Because we want the 9mm power.

Because we want all the above in a more controllable format.

+1. I carried a Glock 23 until a couple of months ago when I injured my back. I tried my 27, but that left me in pain also. My choices right now are a lighter, thinner gun or risk permanent back issues. Assuming my back heals to where I can carry the 23 again, I will. Until then I'm grateful for a smaller thinner pocket gun that allows me to continue to carry.

 

[mgmorden]

Sometimes I carry my LCP in an IWB rig. People have different comfort levels. To me, I can't carry a double-stack - ANY double-stack. They're not comfortable, but then again I also don't find a wallet or cell phone in my pockets comfortable either.

To me, single stacks are concealed carry guns. Double stacks are ok for open carry (though that's not legal here) or for home defense.

 

[kellmark]

I never understand when somebody says that they hate this or that category of gun. Or that these "pocket" guns never fit in their pocket and they have to carry them on their hip.

How small is your pocket? I carried a Glock 26 in a pocket for a number of years, before all these smaller 9s were available. And that was a variety of pants and pockets. And I am average size. I got used to it and it worked for me. I could have 10+1 rounds in the gun plus 12 more in the other pocket. How many rounds do you need?

Now, I often carry a SIG P290RS regularly, as I like the smaller size of the SIG. Some say it is too heavy for them, but it works well for me. You can carry it with 6+1 and an 8 round in the other side pocket for a total of 15 rounds. Isn't that enough for you? It is very accurate, and a well made gun. I have also carried a number of other guns, always in the pocket.

I don't like carrying IWB. It doesn't work for me with the type of clothes and the hot weather where I live and I find it uncomfortable.

So, don't buy a product that you "hate", but don't assume that your situation is the same as everyone else's. The "pocket" 9s will continue as a very successful segment of the market as we see more and more of them. I love em, especially with all of the choices we have now. It means that more people will consider concealed carry when they can put a small 9 in their pocket. And that is a good thing, in my opinion.

 

[Tallball]

LoL! I bought one because everyone else was. And I always end up carrying my P3AT or j frame instead.

 

[C0untZer0]

My Rohrbaugh R9 goes in my pocket and I take it everywhere I go except the courthouse, post office and my kids schools.

It is a true pocket nine.

 

[C0untZer0]

PICTURES !

 

[barnbwt]

"Why on earth would you carry a gun on your hip that carries 3 to 5 rounds less than its double stack counter part..."
Because it is thinner and lies flatter. The 1/16" inch remark is geometrically not true; a double stack mag is much wider than that, so any further similarity in grip size owes to gun grip design and nothing more. Buy a skinny gun and you'll have a much narrower piece inside your waistband.

"that is hard to control and difficult to shoot?"
Maybe you should buy an R51. Mine recoils less than my Hi Power and is easier to shoot rapidly, even when firing +P that would damage the FNH.

TCB

 

[Zaydok Allen]

I hate this, so it must be a fad.....

Based on this logic I can then assume Glocks, clows, doctors, and income taxes are fads as well.