When will the single pocket sized 9mm fad die?

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Reading all the responses to this thread gives me the impression that the only thing left to do to improperlyaged is tar and feather him for starting it.:evil:
 
Goldilocks

I have carried every day for 9 years now. That includes open carrying a glock 22 with two reloads along with about 30 pounds of other gear for 40hrs a week at work. Guess what? I DONT feel like carrying that brick around on my free time! My shield gives me 16 rounds with 2 mags, I CAN pocket it, and it is also much more comfortable than my glock 27 for belt carry. It is VERY easy to shoot well. I do agree carry ammo selection is important. Federal HST 124g are my choice and give better performance than any 380 round out there.
 
improperlyaged said:
I hate these guns.
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Nobody is "forcing" you to like them, right? ;)

improperlyaged said:
They are not truly pocket-able and that means you have to carry them on your hip.
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Not everyone would probably agree, which is expected and fine. Like everyone else, I have my own ideas of what constitutes a "pocketable" (holstered) pistol, and it's pretty dependent on situational context.

improperlyaged said:
Why on earth would you carry a gun on your hip that carries 3 to 5 rounds less than its double stack counter part ...
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Some folks find that 5-7 rounds in a belt-holstered weapon are just fine for their anticipated needs, as well as fulfilling their personal preferences and desires. After all, 5/6-shot revolvers and pistols with 6/8-rd magazines have served lots of folks fine for many decades.

improperlyaged said:
... that is hard to control and difficult to shoot?
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Probably more a matter of perspective and opinion, influenced by individual skillset, abilities and experience. Some folks find them harder to shoot (felt recoil and controllability), and some find the smaller versions to be just as accurate, if not more so, than the larger models, and not especially hard to shoot. Just depends on the individual.

improperlyaged said:
I think it is just a fad that will eventually go away when everyone starts seeing that their "slim" 9mm is less than 1/16 inch slimmer than the double stack.
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The "fad" for a slightly smaller, thinner and lighter 9mm pistol, especially for a single stack version, started growing in the 70's. Remember the ASP & Devel modifications of the S&W M39 guns?

The trend to similarly sized double stack 9's also captured the fancy of professional users, hobbyists and collectors over the years since then, but the allure (and practicality) of the diminutive single stacks has remained strong, and, if anything, has continued to grow.

I'd not be at all surprised if this continuing "trend" has yet to fully peak, either.

Just look at the huge popularity of the ubiquitous 5-shot .38 Spl snub. It's selling in more models, and greater numbers, than ever before, and it shows no signs of slowing anytime soon.

Ditto the venerable .380 ACP caliber, despite its detractors and the folks who denigrate it as a marginal caliber. Newer models are arriving and selling strongly, with no signs of market demand slowing.

Besides, a quarter or half an inch here, or an eighth or tenth of an inch there, and reducing weight a few ounces, can make a noticeable difference for some folks who either have, or want, to lawfully carry a concealed weapon for 8-18hrs at a time, everyday.

It certainly did for me when I spent more than a decade working a plainclothes assignment. I opted for the smaller & lighter duty weapons, having to repeatedly get in & out of cars and desk chairs each shift, and then, on my own time I usually opted to carry an even smaller (and lighter) pistol or revolver.

The Glock G43 will no doubt appeal to the same market segment that's been buying the existing single stack 9's, and which have been snapped up as fast as their respective makers can produce them.

That certainly doesn't mean you have to either like or own one, though, does it? Suit yourself.

I rather doubt I'll be ordering one, and for much the same reason I didn't order a Shield 9 (even though I really liked the Shield 9/.40's I've run on our range). I simply already have enough compact/subcompact single & double stack 9's to more than satisfy my retirement CCW needs. (I also have more than half a dozen J-frames, and just picked up my second LCP, a stainless one with the revised sights & trigger.)

Lots of other shooters who will no doubt continue to fuel the "fad" for single stack 9's, though. ;)
 
The main thing I have learned from this thread is that, with the exception of a few, most are ready to have me banned because I questioned their carry choice. I don't like small pocket 9mm's, I will never like them. I don't see their logic in existing. But you guys need to be less thin skinned and not so easily insulted. Again, with the exception of a few posters.
 
improperlyaged said:
The main thing I have learned from this thread is that, with the exception of a few, most are ready to have me banned because I questioned their carry choice. I don't like small pocket 9mm's, I will never like them. I don't see their logic in existing. But you guys need to be less thin skinned and not so easily insulted. Again, with the exception of a few posters.
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Banned? Not at all man. But understand that anytime you start a thread based completely on your own personal preference and opinion, others will share their opinion also. You chose to allude to the fact you think something a lot of people choose as a carry piece and like is in fact an illogical choice by referring to them as a fad.

That's pretty much throwing a hand grenade into a room and asking people to sit still. When you do that, people react. It isn't being thin skinned either. It's a natural reaction people have when you criticize their choices when you know nothing about them.

No one expects you to like single stack 9's, and 99.9% of people don't care what you choose to carry or other people's choices. A lot of folks would agree that there are far better carry options as well. But that and your original post completely ignores that other people's choice of dress, concealment needs, and physical shape may make these particular guns very useful and practical.

So, just a thought.... Perhaps if you don't like a type of gun or understand why people choose them, maybe just ask why some folks choose that gun and the reason why rather than starting with a denigrating statement. People on THR usually react better in that context and are less inclined to march you to the gallows.

I carry a single stack 45 because it works for me. Buy what you like, carry what you like, and be happy.
 
improperlyaged said:
The main thing I have learned from this thread is that, with the exception of a few, most are ready to have me banned because I questioned their carry choice. I don't like small pocket 9mm's, I will never like them. I don't see their logic in existing. But you guys need to be less thin skinned and not so easily insulted. Again, with the exception of a few posters.
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Perhaps the thing to be learned from this thread is that opinions can easily vary among folks.

It's not like it's a case of there only being a single right or wrong "answer" (opinion) that must be applied across the board for everyone, is it?

Perhaps some folks who responded to your use of strong language to express strong personal opinions did, indeed, feel you were inviting them to similarly share theirs on the same topic. Wasn't that the case?

I'd be surprised if anyone was insulted by your OP, and don't really see why you should be bothered by opposing responses, either.

If you weren't inviting discussion, though, and the almost inevitable dissenting (or at least dissimilar) opinions, but were just venting and don't value the opinions of others, why even bother starting the thread?

Enjoy what you like, for the reasons you like. :)

Expect everyone else to feel free to do the same.

No biggie.
 
The Nehru jacket and bell bottoms are gone; but this damned oxygen breathing fad just hangs on:fire:
 
Why on earth would you carry a gun on your hip that carries 3 to 5 rounds less than its double stack counter part
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That's an easy one. Because sometimes you have to do more than stand rigidly upright to maintain concealability.

I IWB carried a lcp with a crossbreed for a long while until they came out with the LC9s pro. I felt the LCP was more accurate than it should have been and concealed great, but when the trigger cleaned up and they got rid of he safety on the LC9, it was an easy transition. It maintains great concealability while bending down, kneeling or whatever, fills the hand a little better, and offers a better cartridge.

It also gives us more things to argue about on the internet.:evil::neener:
 
improperlyaged said:
The main thing I have learned from this thread is that, with the exception of a few, most are ready to have me banned because I questioned their carry choice. I don't like small pocket 9mm's, I will never like them. I don't see their logic in existing. But you guys need to be less thin skinned and not so easily insulted. Again, with the exception of a few posters.
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Don't sweat it improperlyaged, most of us who have been on THR for a while have gotten people fired-up with a post. It is almost an inevitability a member will post something that gets a strong response.
 
It's all about convenience, and the ability to be armed and comfortable at the same time.
Large 2 lb guns are difficult o carry all day and night, unless you are on duty.
 
460Kodiak said:
Banned? Not at all man. But understand that anytime you start a thread based completely on your own personal preference and opinion, others will share their opinion also. You chose to allude to the fact you think something a lot of people choose as a carry piece and like is in fact an illogical choice by referring to them as a fad.

That's pretty much throwing a hand grenade into a room and asking people to sit still. When you do that, people react. It isn't being thin skinned either. It's a natural reaction people have when you criticize their choices when you know nothing about them.

No one expects you to like single stack 9's, and 99.9% of people don't care what you choose to carry or other people's choices. A lot of folks would agree that there are far better carry options as well. But that and your original post completely ignores that other people's choice of dress, concealment needs, and physical shape may make these particular guns very useful and practical.

So, just a thought.... Perhaps if you don't like a type of gun or understand why people choose them, maybe just ask why some folks choose that gun and the reason why rather than starting with a denigrating statement. People on THR usually react better in that context and are less inclined to march you to the gallows.

I carry a single stack 45 because it works for me. Buy what you like, carry what you like, and be happy.
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Well put.

If a line is drawn, people will cross it. No ill intent.
 
I am grateful to the OP and the other posters for a fun and amusing thread.

It's an entertaining part of the Internet fad. :)
 
"don't see their logic in existing."

I've front pocket carried a Rohrbaugh R9 everyday since 2007. The logic is there. Maybe you need glasses?

John
 
Holy crap nobody's forcing you to buy a single stack 9. They make them because there's a market for them and they will continue to make them as long as there is a market for them. You should be happy for the large choice of available firearms. It's a good thing.
 
Also, the firearms industry is booming because of the conceal carry market, and that is a good thing as they can spend more money on research and development of new and better guns. I would like to see more pocket 9mm pistols the size and quality of the Rohrbaugh R9.
 
I carried a J frame for many years as a back up and off duty. When I went to the small 9mm, in my case the Ruger LC9, it seem like a logical move it still a somewhat of a snub nose only in Semi auto. I never enjoy carrying full size weapons off duty.

be safe
 
I love the large all steel guns but they're not practical for most purposes outside of the home. It's one of the reasons that I have a Glock 26 and hope to get the Walther PPS 9mm before the week is through. America's love for the slim 9s is here to stay and will only get bigger in my opinion.

Laura
 
Sheeze.... Tough crowd....


I do believe that the "pocket 9" may get some people in trouble if they have to pull quickly from a front pocket.....

I had several pistols, including a CM9, that "fit" in my front pocket

But.....

After practicing, and practicing, I found I was MUCH slower getting to a pistol in my front pocket vs getting to an appendix carry IWB

If I were to be sitting down when I needed to draw...... Not happening soon....
If I was in a tussle on the ground and needed to get to it...... Fogetaboutit

I am back to a SIG P series and a Shield in rotation..... No more micros for me
 
There's a rumor that Glock and S&W are both working on a 45 cap single shot disposable gun to be offered in vending machines at the Post Office.
 
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