Which Is A Better .357? Colt, Ruger, Smith?

Which .357 Is Best? (If You Could Only Have One)

  • Colt Python

    Votes: 39 14.3%
  • Smith & Wesson 66/65/19/13

    Votes: 30 11.0%
  • Ruger Security-Six/Speed-Six/Service-Six

    Votes: 31 11.4%
  • Smith & Wesson 686

    Votes: 64 23.4%
  • Ruger GP-100

    Votes: 52 19.0%
  • Dan Wesson Pistol Pac

    Votes: 13 4.8%
  • Taurus/Rossi (Mine Is Great!)

    Votes: 5 1.8%
  • Tough Call...Lot of Good Ones

    Votes: 39 14.3%

  • Total voters
    273
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I've always wondered why the Pyhon wasn't redesigned at all during its production cycles. The grip could have easily been modified like it was on the Trooper III, the ratchet and pawl beefed up to increase longevity and...I can't think of any more changes.

Are the Pythons outshooting today's Smith 686s?? And if so, is it a substantial difference? When were Pythons last produced?
 
The Python as an investment. Over rated as a shooter

The Ruger as a TEOTWAWKI survival gun that will be around after 4-5 generations of abuse.

S&W best overall. Good quality, accuracy and reasonable durability.
My thoughts exactly
 
Dan Wesson wins for innovation. Everything on the Dan Wesson 15-2 was designed intelligently.

Need a longer/shorter/different barrel? Screw one on yourself in under a minute - side benefits are the ability to set your own cylinder gap, clean the barrel off of the gun from breech to muzzle (better for the crown), barrel is tentioned on both ends which is said to improve accuracy.

Need a round/square/target/concealed/combat/carved it yourself grip? Sure, screw one on. The grip frame is a stud and can accommodate nearly any shape or size grip imaginable (to highlight that point, DW used to unclude a hunk of wood in the pistol pac called a grip blank. Carve the grip you want.

Cylinder end shake got you down? Tension the detent ball in the frame until your end shake is gone.

Any part at all (other than the hand) break? No problem, buy another. No fitting is required for any DW part (other than the hand).

Gun out of time? Buy a new hand and stone a little grove in it like your old hand (only part that requires any fitting.

Need a different front sight? Loosen a set screw and replace the front sight.

Dan Wesson - Perfection
 
Which brand is the overwhelming choice of the best competitive revolver shooters, whether they're in PPC, USPSA, or any other type of revolver competition? The choice of people who will spend ANY amount of money to get a competitive advantage?

S&W.
 
S&W 686 or the Ruger GP100 pretty much a toss up betwixt the two as to the best currently available.

They are both fine revolvers but the Dan Wesson is very good as well. Albeit just a little more expensive.
 
My Dad has a 25-30yo security six it still shoots great.

I have a 24 year old S&W 629 (.44 mag) that still works great too. I think the Rugers are far stronger when it comes to .44 mag but not so much in .357. The pressures just aren't the same. They probably are more robust than their Smith counterparts like the 686 but it isn't as big of a difference as there is in the .44 mag class. Those heavy 300 gr. bullets will do a number on a 629 pretty quick. The gun was just never designed to fire those heavier shells even after they modified it. It got better of course but the Rugers are a whole other way of doing things and they stand up to a lot more from what I understand. But then I've shot lots of 240-255 gr. bullets through my 629 and it hasn't shown any sign of getting out of time or any other problem. And it is very accurate. I've bounced gallon jugs around at 175 yards with that revolver. I actually think the Leverevolution cartridges have improved accuracy substantially with my Smith. A more aerodynamic bullet is almost always a plus for accuracy.
 
To go and buy one today? The GP100 without a doubt. Just got a five inch that is very nice after checking out a new 686 that was loose as a goose in cylinder play and lock up. Old school? My S&W Highway Patrolman 4 inch...sweet.
 
Which Is A Better .357? Colt, Ruger, Smith?

Sir IMO you left out the two best .357 Magnum revolvers ever produced.
1- The Smith and Wesson registered Magnum, a true custom revolver.
2- The Smith and Wesson .357 Magnum and it's variants. I.e the Model 27 and Model 28.

I carried a M-19 to work everyday for 27 years and they are excellent revolvers. But they are not the best .357 Magnum produced.
 
Agree on the 27/28, both .357s that are classics and beautiful, accurate and dependable. But though I should have added it, would that really be your first choice if you could only have one .357? As for the Smith registered magnums, those really aren't production guns. And as much as I like 27/28s, I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable carrying either while hiking or camping. I'd want a true medium frame gun like a Ruger Security-Six or a Smith & Wesson 66.

Others like larger guns like the 686 or Dan Wesson.
 
I've always wondered why the Pyhon wasn't redesigned at all during its production cycles. The grip could have easily been modified like it was on the Trooper III, the ratchet and pawl beefed up to increase longevity and...I can't think of any more changes.

Are the Pythons outshooting today's Smith 686s?? And if so, is it a substantial difference? When were Pythons last produced?
On early Pythons the barrel underlug was hollow, which made for a (slightly) lighter gun, than the later ones. Of course the longer the barrel, the bigger the difference.
They did consider changes, but it was decided that Python buyers liked the gun as is. Yes, a MKIII Trooper is a more durable, and easier to make gun. However the action will never be like a Python. I remember seeing a photo of a prototype Python MKIII. Basically a Trooper MKIII with a Python barrel. Python buyers were not willing (or at least the feeling at Colt was) to to go to the MKIII action, even if it was more durable. The Python was always considered the "Super Premium" revolver. Buyers knew that there would be extra maintenance. The same way a Corvette buyer knows there is more maintenance involved than if he had bought a Caprice instead.
 
In my opinion, Ruger by far, for the reason most important to me, proper function.

I've had a Python, and multiple Smiths (19-28-686). All out of time with magnum loads inside a few hundred rounds. I'm talking about carryup in slow cock on one or more chambers, which admittedly is more important to me than to some.

I've never had a GP100, or even a SP101 go out of time. And I like the solid frame, and modular, screw-free assembly.

Must admit the Colt and S&Ws had better triggers, but I'll stick with Ruger.

These "better" posts rarely lead to good.
 
In my opinion, Ruger by far, for the reason most important to me, proper function.

I've had a Python, and multiple Smiths (19-28-686). All out of time with magnum loads inside a few hundred rounds. ... Must admit the Colt and S&Ws had better triggers, but I'll stick with Ruger.

These "better" posts rarely lead to good.
Perhaps rarely...but in the case of this particular thread I've learned a great deal. Such as Lucky Derby's post above. And yours. I don't know how three Smiths could go out of time as you describe. Were the magnum rounds you were using handloads or factory? Smiths have pretty good reputations.
 
I like my GP-100 best out of the current production offerings. Although the trigger is a little heavy. I fell out of love with S&W after my last two purchases. (No longer feel they are worth the extra money over a Ruger.)

The Python is a obviously a nicer gun but it's discontinued and definitely up for sale in a seller's market. (Good ones are $900+)
Try at least twice $900.
 
Which is better? It depends on its purpose. The Colt Python started out as a great target gun. The K-frame S&Ws were intended for police and self defense use. The Ruger Six series was on par with the S&W K-frames. The S&W L-frame (581, 586, 681 and 686) were designed to replace the S&W K-frame 357s. I have several 357s and all are well worth having. The ones I rely on most are my Colt Pythons, S&W 65, S&W 686 and S&W 28. Most of the 357s I have, I carried while on duty as an armed security officer and each performed their duties well.
 
This thread needs some Colt King Cobra...Stouter than the others and better looking to boot.:)

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You wanted a vote, so I selected Ruger GP100. I consider it a working revolver that I don't need to worry about or baby. It's more of a tool than a work of art, and I like that.

But it's a tough call ... there are lots of good choices! I can't argue that any one is "best."
 
I voted S&W 686 because I really like my 7 shot 4" 686 that I've had for a few years now. But then; I'm also getting real fond of my stainless 4 & 5/8" Ruger Blackhawk in .357 that I picked up last year. I was looking for a GP100 but came across this mint Blackhawk at the LGS and the owner gave me a nice deal I couldn't resist and so far it's great.
 
Talk about timing....I was just handling my 4" 686+ and saying to my father how "this is my favorite gun...." I would love to add a 3" to the collection this year and a 586...which I can't get in my state sadly....:fire:

Laura
 
I've experienced most of the ones listed and the k-frame 357 is still my favorite. They were the king when 357s dominated police carry.
My current favorites: 1974 66-1, 1977 Security Six, and 1987 Police Service Six.

I still think it's impossible to beat a good k-frame 357.


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Beautiful guns, Skidder! That 66 is, in my opinion, the most beautiful of the guns listed in the poll...that and the blue 13s of the same era. As much as I loved the Security-Six, when people who weren't really into guns asked me for my recommendation for a house gun, I always pointed them to a Model 13. In those days the gun was gorgeous, had a beautiful blue finish, a decent trigger and outstanding pointing characteristics (not to mention that it took both .38s and .357s). That said, my friend, who was a firearms instructor, had a Model 66 that he kept a short rein on. He had a 4-inch, a 2.5-inch and a stainless Security-Six. The one he let his private customers use, though, was a 2.5-inch 19. He taught my mom how to shoot it when she visited me in western Kentucky.

They sure don't make 'em like they used to. Sadly, at the time, most shooters just took these fine guns for granted. They said, ironically, that those guns weren't up to the standards of guns made a decade or so before. Now that we are awash in plastic guns and steel and rubber paperweights, that talk will probably soon die out.
 
Thanks Confederate!
I'm with you on the pointing of these old guns. I have an SP and GP, but they are just not the same as these old "k-frames". The balance, size, and weight are just right!

I like the L-frame Smith and GP, but whenever I go for a hike its the "k-frames" that make it out the door. When you have a choice on what to grab its an eye opener to their convenience.

I stumbled on the Security Sixes when hunting for this 66. It's a toss up on which one I like better, but if I had to chose, I'd say the added strength of the Security Six edges out the better trigger of the 66. Ruger did a great job in designing the Six to compete with the 19/66. The Security Six has the same weight and size, but stronger. Hats off to Bill Ruger on this design.
 
I suppose best would really come down to the shooter and what they wanted.

I wouldn't be upset with most any of the options. I find I shoot my GP100 very well in DA. Better than the Smith or Colt for some reason. It would be my pick based on how I shoot the ones I own. I think the 66 is a better do everything gun and would probably be my go to if I was told I could only pick one, though I currently don't have one. The 686 for me would be a 686+ to squeeze another round in. If I wanted 7 shots for a given use it would by far be the choice.

I'd personally take a Colt towards the bottom of the list. Never cared much for their DA triggers and the clean models are pulling a huge premium these days. Give me a Performance Center Smith well before I'd pay the price for most Colts.

The Dan Wesson would be on the list for a paper punching gun, but I don't do much of that with pistols.

If the Security Six were still produced, it would jump right in with the K-frame options as a near perfect "do everything" gun. It's hard to vote for something that isn't made these days, even if they were made better in the past.

Taurus, well that seems to be a love/hate relationship where you either get a very serviceable gun or you don't. If I couldn't afford a more expensive gun I would take the Taurus but only then. I'd rather play the odds of paying for a more well respected company than save a few bucks and take an additional chance on a Taurus. Certainly some people have had outstanding results with Taurus but mine have been mediocre, right in line with the cost.

So I don't think I could vote for a single option listed. I could justify a number of them as being the best and ideal single revolver. I'm lucky enough to own a few of the listed options and wouldn't want to stream line to just one. If I were forced to, based on my shooting desires today, I suppose I would pick the GP-100 Match Champion or the 686+, whichever I came across first for the best price.
 
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