Which is the most devastating .22 LR round?

[stinger 327]

.22 LR Stinger HP
.22 LR Stinger segmented HP - multiple projectiles
Aguila flat point or HP 1,750 FPS
CCI Qwik Shok - multiple projectiles

 

[desidog]

What sort of critters are you thinking of? Generally speaking, shot placement matters much more than the projectile with .22lr's. Those bullets weights vary. Lighter bullets will drift more in crosswind, while heavier bullets will fall quicker.

As far as devastation, that depends on your quarry. A hollow point will make a bigger hole, and have more drag, thereby not going as deep; while a round or flat nose will penetrate more but shed its energy slower.

The "multiple projectiles" sounds fierce, but are you going to be eating them later?

 

[mothermopar]

First, please tell me you're referring to a 22LR to be used in hunting small game and not self defense.

Second, a high velocity 22LR of reliable build quality is about as good as the next. I'm not too sure if these little hollopoints will actually expand or simply deform?!?!

 

[Radium]

CCI Qwik Shok
.22 LR Stinger segmented HP
arent these the same rounds ? just a different name?

 

[sm]

Just me, but standard velocity, 40 gr, lead round nose, .22 long rifle, has taken lots of game over the decades, with both handguns and rifles, for me.

I have always enjoyed handgun hunting, including with a .22 rim-fire.

For one thing, the accuracy is what I want, as shot placement is important to me. It does not matter what "razzle dazzle" a bullet is supposed to have, if one misses the target.

'sides, the critters don't know how they are to respond to a firearm, caliber or ammunition type. Critters never did according to Magazine articles , nor will they according to Internet postings on the subject.

 

[stinger 327]

CCI Qwik Shok
.22 LR Stinger segmented HP
arent these the same rounds ? just a different name?

That's exactly my thought as I haven't seen Qwik Shok ammo from CCI in a long time and now they have this 3 piece segmented HP.
Do they still make Stinger HP's? I haven't seen those for sale for a while too.

 

[stinger 327]

First, please tell me you're referring to a 22LR to be used in hunting small game and not self defense.

Second, a high velocity 22LR of reliable build quality is about as good as the next. I'm not too sure if these little hollopoints will actually expand or simply deform?!?!

There are lots of misfires with this rimless cartridge not good for self defense/personal protection but probably better than next to nothing.

 

[stinger 327]

Just me, but standard velocity, 40 gr, lead round nose, .22 long rifle, has taken lots of game over the decades, with both handguns and rifles, for me.

I have always enjoyed handgun hunting, including with a .22 rim-fire.

For one thing, the accuracy is what I want, as shot placement is important to me. It does not matter what "razzle dazzle" a bullet is supposed to have, if one misses the target.

'sides, the critters don't know how they are to respond to a firearm, caliber or ammunition type. Critters never did according to Magazine articles , nor will they according to Internet postings on the subject.

I think Aguila or CCI perhaps both of them are selling 40 grain .22LR HP in the 1,400 fps range.

 

[stinger 327]

What sort of critters are you thinking of? Generally speaking, shot placement matters much more than the projectile with .22lr's. Those bullets weights vary. Lighter bullets will drift more in crosswind, while heavier bullets will fall quicker.

As far as devastation, that depends on your quarry. A hollow point will make a bigger hole, and have more drag, thereby not going as deep; while a round or flat nose will penetrate more but shed its energy slower.

The "multiple projectiles" sounds fierce, but are you going to be eating them later?

Jack Rabbits, crows, racoons, squirrels etc.
I think the CCI Stingers have been the best so far.

 

[MCgunner]

Just me, but standard velocity, 40 gr, lead round nose, .22 long rifle, has taken lots of game over the decades, with both handguns and rifles, for me.

Me, too. I kinda like a hollow point on rabbits/'coons and such., but nothing fancy. Stinger isn't real accurate in many guns, light bullet. It shoots well in my 10/22, though. Only way to know is try it. I stick with plain old mini-mag for small game and solids for squirrel. I really never saw the point of stinger.

In fact, squirrel hunting, I've used shorts in my old Remington bolt gun. CB shorts are very accurate in that gun to a good 30-40 yards, silent death.

 

[stinger 327]

Me, too. I kinda like a hollow point on rabbits/'coons and such., but nothing fancy. Stinger isn't real accurate in many guns, light bullet. It shoots well in my 10/22, though. Only way to know is try it. I stick with plain old mini-mag for small game and solids for squirrel. I really never saw the point of stinger.

In fact, squirrel hunting, I've used shorts in my old Remington bolt gun. CB shorts are very accurate in that gun to a good 30-40 yards, silent death.

I see this new Subsonic ammo out by Aguilar made by Remington?. I believe it is a 60 grain lead .22LR most of the whole cartridge is lead. The brass part is very small like a .22 short.

On the 10/22 using regular lead bullets it seems to like that and is very accurate virtually no recoil but put in the Stingers and you notice the difference in recoil.

I'm afraid that If I use Stingers too frequently at range it may gum up the barrel worse.

 

[Radium]

yes they do still make them. atleast i got no problem at all finding them here in europe. exept for CCI segmented HP. i gotta travel all the way to sweden for them.

stinger 327


That's exactly my thought as I haven't seen Qwik Shok ammo from CCI in a long time and now they have this 3 piece segmented HP.
Do they still make Stinger HP's? I haven't seen those for sale for a while too.

 

[Marlin 45 carbine]

I just recently tryed the Aguila 40gr solid 'Interceptor' in my AMT small game hunter (10/22 clone w/a bull barrel) it shot fine the 30 gr 'supermaximum' didn't group near as tight. stingers didn't group all that well either. I enjoy squirrel hunting and coon hunting.

 

[stinger 327]

yes they do still make them. atleast i got no problem at all finding them here in europe. exept for CCI segmented HP. i gotta travel all the way to sweden for them.

You can order the CCI segmented HP from Cabela's.
It would seem to me that the 40 grain .22 LR whatever brand is more accurate than the lighter grain or .32 grain .22 LR bullets.
There is a 40 grain bullet rated at 1,470 which might be that latest one you mentioned from Aguila but I think CCI also makes a version of that.

 

[Radium]

stinger 327



You can order the CCI segmented HP from Cabela's.
It would seem to me that the 40 grain .22 LR whatever brand is more accurate than the lighter grain or .32 grain .22 LR bullets.
There is a 40 grain bullet rated at 1,470 which might be that latest one you mentioned from Aguila but I think CCI also makes a version of that.

u can order them i cant coz of all the redtape and stuff :/

 

[stinger 327]

u can order them i cant coz of all the redtape and stuff :/

Why they won't ship to your part of the world?

 

[cwbjaxfl]

i have herd that qwik shok is supposed to be an awesome round

 

[Radium]

stinger 327



Why they won't ship to your part of the world?

because I live in the communist fascist uname it state of europe... my license is only valid in my country/state so i cant by anything over the boarder without a special permit to import firearms/ammo.
the cost of that+ the shipping and all that jsut dosnt make it worth it...

just the permit fees overhere are 70 euros ~ 80-90 dollars.
so if my barrel breaks in one of my guns. i need to get a buy permit to be able to buy myself a new barrel. cost of a barrel. 120-200 dollars expensive? no.cost of permit 80-90 dollars expensive ? yes . am i getting the short stick? yes.

my savage .22 rifle cost me sumthing like 120 euros. and the fee 70. its just plain retarded how much bull**** its over here. well i guess im gettin my name on sum watchlist because of this post. ill be shipped to siberia soon

 

[stinger 327]

because I live in the communist fascist uname it state of europe... my license is only valid in my country/state so i cant by anything over the boarder without a special permit to import firearms/ammo.
the cost of that+ the shipping and all that jsut dosnt make it worth it...

just the permit fees overhere are 70 euros ~ 80-90 dollars.
so if my barrel breaks in one of my guns. i need to get a buy permit to be able to buy myself a new barrel. cost of a barrel. 120-200 dollars expensive? no.cost of permit 80-90 dollars expensive ? yes . am i getting the short stick? yes.

my savage .22 rifle cost me sumthing like 120 euros. and the fee 70. its just plain retarded how much bull**** its over here. well i guess im gettin my name on sum watchlist because of this post. ill be shipped to siberia soon

Sounds like censorship and violation of 2nd amendment.

 

[Radium]

well we aint got no amendments here.

 

[stinger 327]

I just recently tryed the Aguila 40gr solid 'Interceptor' in my AMT small game hunter (10/22 clone w/a bull barrel) it shot fine the 30 gr 'supermaximum' didn't group near as tight. stingers didn't group all that well either. I enjoy squirrel hunting and coon hunting.

It seems to be that the hyper lighter .22LR rounds aren't as accurate as the standard 40 grain rounds.

 

[desidog]

It seems to be that the hyper lighter .22LR rounds aren't as accurate

I like the hyper heavy too - I've found 40gr CCI Velocitors to be the most consistent, accuracy wise.

As to the Aguila 60gr - they are great if you have a barrel with a rate of twist fast enough to stabilize them. In my 10/22, some shots start keyholing at about 35 yds. In my 20" 1:7 AR/Ceiner, they do very well; but the casings occasionally get caught in the action. They recoil a bit more than the 40gr stuff.

 

[stinger 327]

I like the hyper heavy too - I've found 40gr CCI Velocitors to be the most consistent, accuracy wise.

As to the Aguila 60gr - they are great if you have a barrel with a rate of twist fast enough to stabilize them. In my 10/22, some shots start keyholing at about 35 yds. In my 20" 1:7 AR/Ceiner, they do very well; but the casings occasionally get caught in the action. They recoil a bit more than the 40gr stuff.

The casings on those 60 grain .22 LR sub-sonic Aguilar loads are like .22 short.

 

[MachIVshooter]

stingers didn't group all that well either

They're known for that.

The casings on those 60 grain .22 LR sub-sonic Aguilar loads are like .22 short.

They're not like a short; They are a short, stuffed with a 60 gr. bullet.

 

[stinger 327]

They're known for that.



They're not like a short; They are a short, stuffed with a 60 gr. bullet.

Isn't the velocity something like 900 FPS?