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Which steel .380?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by KelTecian, Nov 19, 2007.

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Which steel .380 is best?

Poll closed Dec 19, 2007.
  1. CZ83

    40 vote(s)
    23.8%
  2. PPK/S

    41 vote(s)
    24.4%
  3. P232

    56 vote(s)
    33.3%
  4. Other...show and tell us below.

    31 vote(s)
    18.5%
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  1. KelTecian

    KelTecian Member

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    I've think i've got it narrowed down...which is the best steel .380? and why?
    Show me some pictures of your steel beauties...Thanks!

    CZ83
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    Walther PPK/S
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    Sig P232
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  2. ZeSpectre

    ZeSpectre Member

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    Gosh I wish my CZ-82 was that pretty <sigh>.
     
  3. PPGMD

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    I haven't fired the CZ yet, but I think the Sig 232 is a better gun then the PPK. Much better double action trigger.
     
  4. jdc1244

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    I’m not going to say it is best but I do own an 83. It’s been completely reliable to the extent it is my carry gun and trust it accordingly. I can highly recommend it.
     
  5. usp9

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    Sphinx AT-380 may be the best of the steel guns.
    [​IMG][/IMG]

    The best one made however is the Beretta 84/85, with a alloy frame
     
  6. Gunner4h1r3

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    I would pick the Sig.

    The Walther I've shot wasn't too pleasant. The Sig was more comfortable and easier to shoot.

    Never shot the CZ, but I'm sure it is good from what I hear.
     
  7. Spyvie

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    I picked up this SW PPK .380 with after market grips (Houge, I think) a couple of weeks ago used and dirty for $325. It looked like it had just been to the range, rode hard and put up wet.

    I had been looking for a PPK, no one had them in stock around Denver, just the PPK/S, and those were going for over $500... So I took this little guy home and gave him the love he deserves. After a thorough cleaning the pistol does not look terribly used or abused and so far has functioned perfectly.

    After paying a little too much for WWB at Wallyworld ($21 for 100 rnds), I found another 100 rounds of 12 year old WWB in my storage shed. All of this crappy ammo worked perfectly. The same shop I bought it in, Green Mountain Guns in Lakewood, has .380 Ranger SXT 95GR. For $28 a box of 50, or I can get Corbon 90GR. For $18 a box of 20. One mag of each of these premium rounds were tested with excellent results.

    Pistol came with original box, stupid lock, instructions and two mags

    I'm pretty happy with my purchase.

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    Sorry about the blurry pics, I'm still experimenting with my ringlight.
     
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  8. KelTecian

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    nice gun...I like the PPK better with wooden grips and a mag that doesnt have a plastic extention hanging down...the flat bottom mags make the pistol look 100% better IMHO
     
  9. Iggy

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    Colt model 1908;)
     
  10. XDKingslayer

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    Any reason the Bersa was left out?
     
  11. keyboard commando

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    Colt Mustang Plus II

    :scrutiny: Musatng2.jpg ;)
     
  12. Spyvie

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    "Nice gun...I like the PPK better with wooden grips and a mag that doesnt have a plastic extention hanging down...the flat bottom mags make the pistol look 100% better IMHO" -KelTecian

    Not only does it look nicer, but I greatly prefer wrapping my pinky under the grip. The little plastic extension always feels to me like its gunna break off or dislodge the mag.
     
  13. Spyvie

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    Very nice gun KC, how does it shoot?
     
  14. hotwheelz

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    keyboard commando has it right I have my colt mk Iv series 80 Mustang plus II in my pocket right now it goes everywhere with me " DONT LEAVE HOME WITHOUT IT":)
     
  15. hexidismal

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    The Bersa Thunder .380 isn't steel. It has an aluminum alloy frame.
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    I'd have to put in another vote for the colt mustang "pocket" .380 guns. I don't own one but I have tried them, and I continue to want one very badly..
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    Spyvie: Finger on the trigger and looking down the barrel of a clearly loaded gun !?... welcome to THR, but very bad form. Please review the 4 rules.
     
  16. GunTech

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    Of the 3, I'd take the Sig. The Walther has a heavy trigger and too many sharp edges for routine carry.

    But I'd vote the Mustang as well. With guns like the Kahr, there's no reason to carry a large 380 when you can get a 9mm that's the same size. The locked breech 380 colt is the size of many 25 and 32 ACP pistols, with a lot more bang.
     
  17. Spyvie

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    "Spyvie: Finger on the trigger and looking down the barrel of a clearly loaded gun !?... welcome to THR, but very bad form. Please review the 4 rules." -hexidismal


    Sorry if that image was offensive, I've removed it.

    It was taken in a mirror, the gun was pointed at no one.
     
  18. Lonestar49

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    Frame mag release vs bottom thumb release

    ...

    Just make sure which ever you wide up choosing, it as a side-frame, mag release, as opposed the the bottom, thumb-mag release.

    The side release pops out the mags fast and straight, same for going back in, whereas, the bottom thumb-release mags do no pop out, you have to pull them out, and insert them slightly off center first before they will go straight up and in.

    Worst part of the thumb-mag release is if you have a jam and need to cycle the slide to clear out the jammed bullet, it will take some faience to get the thumb-release pushed, and at the same time, pulling hard to get the mag to come down just a tad, in order for you to cycle the slide.


    Ls
     
  19. Ol` Joe

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    Ok so I might be wrong on this one. My father has an Astra A-60 which he hates because he "Is not a semi auto guy". I however love this pistol and shoot it whenever I get the chance. Nice trigger, reliable, all around great gun.

    But for the life of me I dont know if its steel. I know that sounds dumb but thats it.

    For the record I know that the Kel-Tec P3AT is NOT steel. LOL
     
  21. 10-Ring

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    From your choices, I prefer the looks of the Walther but the functioning of the SIG, so I picked the SIG
     
  22. Bill B.

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    Sig 230 is hard to beat!
     
  23. romma

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    The Sig 232 looks awesome! However I own the PPK/S
     
  24. Spyvie

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    Comparison test of the Sig and the Walther, from American Handgunner, Sep. 2000 issue.

    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_148_24/ai_64565405

    "The SIG P-232 and the Walther PPK sit at the apex of the .380 hierarchy. While the SIG is clearly the more modern of the two, any advantages that might be inferred from a review of its salient features tend to lose significance in a side by side shooting comparison with the PPK. Both pistols are completely competent in their assigned roles." -Mike Cumpston
     
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  25. Ala Dan

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    SIG P232

    But, I like the looks of Mr. Savage's Seecamp~! ;) :D
     
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