Which two out of these four for CCW (Glock 30SF, Glock 30SF, Glock 27, Ruger LCP 380)

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I am more concerned that you live in THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA the 2nd amendment is my carry permit! Are you kidding you are only allowed to carry any of two guns and you have to list the serial #'s. A big F THAT get a chainsaw and cut california off from the USA
 
I would go by size since that will cover all concealment situations.

If you can have only one, then I'd choose the Glock 27. The reason is that it can be carried on the belt (strong side or appendix) or in a pocket (stuff a rag in there to break up the outline). You're limited to 10 round magazines, so there is no advantage to a larger gun unless you want the 30SF for 45 ACP.

I would acquire a second Glock 27 for practice. I'd still shoot the carry gun, but would limit it to a few hundred rounds a year.
 
De nada.

It can just depend on the policies/preferences of the issuing authority (Sheriff or Chief) issuing your license, and that can vary from one jurisdiction to the next (or one agency's administration to the next).

There's been a growing number of agencies who have decided to out-source their CCW training, often providing a list of agency-approved vendors to the approved applicant. This may also include the range portion/qualification part of the training. (Although I've also heard of agencies who still require their own in-house qual course-of-fire for licensees after they successfully complete an approved outside class. Like I said, it just depends.)

The best source of info relevant to you is from the specific agency issuing yours. ;)

I've heard of all manner of variations up and down the state, and it seems like it can change at any time.

I've heard of an agency who restricted the type of concealable firearm permitted (revolver or semiauto pistol), the calibers (minimum and maximum calibers), the number of firearms ... and, of course, any additional restrictions and limitations that may be desired by a particular agency, either in general or for a particular licensee.

I no longer have any interest in teaching classes for CCW applicants (initial or renewal) but I've recently been talking with other instructors in & out of LE about the emerging trends here in CA. A lot of the firearms instructors in my "age & experience" group seem to be taking a "wait & see" position before deciding if they want to consider getting involved in the growing commercial/private student market.

All that aside, best of luck to you.

Once the process is successfully behind you (and until renewal time quickly comes around :eek: ), you might carefully consider some judicious choices of some further training. Nothing that would raise red flags to be raised when the next background is done (ought to be self-explanatory). Something carefully selected to increase your knowledge and practical skillset, as well as some legal updates and possibly some practical understanding and grasp of relevant tactics for the private citizen forced to use deadly force in defense of self or an innocent third person(s).

Maybe some enjoyable weekend excursions to any local IDPA events? (No reason you can't enjoy some fun.)
This year I've been going to monthly trap competitions. I figured two so.id years of shooting trap weekly would make me competitive. Nope, even when I shoot slightly better than normal. I still have lots of fun. In a few months I plan to start IPDA style competitions.

For the past decade, I target trying to get 100 hours of professional firearms training in each year. A bad year is 50 hours. I've been to classes by Loui Awerbuck, Clint Smith, Scott Reitz, etc. later this year I will take Mas Ayoobs class. Next year will be Gunsight. I really enjoy training classes a lot. Part of the paperwork they asked for were my training certificates. This helped me skip a step in the application process.
 
I love/hate my LCP .380.

It's ridiculously easy to carry and conceal but also ridiculously difficult do shoot accurately and quickly. The drills I'm comfortable running with a full sized or subcompact Glock would be near impossible with an LCP using the times and distances.
 
Move to Kern county - we get 10 on a permit.

Barring that, carry what you shoot best. I love my G30, but shoot my G26 a whole lot faster - and carry a Shield 9mm most of all. I don't shoot a LCP well enough to carry one.
 
I'd say the 30 SF and the 27, or something to think about to give yourself a little more versatility would be the 33 (instead of the 27) as the 33 would give you the option of having 3 calibers out of one gun with the purchase of the appropriate conversion barrels and magazines. I know that Lone Wolf has conversions for the 33 and bigger 32 that let you swap between the factory .357 SIG, .40 S&W and 9mm. I know that you can also swap between .40 and 9mm with the 27, but I'm not sure if you could go up to .357 Sig with the 27.

In any event, I'd say 30SF and 27 for sure. The 30 SF is a little less chubby than the 30 and the 27 is just a flat out solid performing and proven platform if .40 is your caliber of choice.
 
I have no bias in this. It is up to you, your lifestyle, etc. I think I was reading that you have to declare two handguns for concealed carry and I guess you have to register their S/Ns. Again back to the top of what I said.
 
Did anyone ask you if you have shot these guns? Fire 50 rounds out of each.

I do recall a rental range outside of San Francisco where years ago I shot a Glock 21.

With limited options, that's a way to choose. What do you shoot well?
 
Did anyone ask you if you have shot these guns? Fire 50 rounds out of each.

I do recall a rental range outside of San Francisco where years ago I shot a Glock 21.

With limited options, that's a way to choose. What do you shoot well?
No one did. I own them and have shot them a lot. As of today, I'm leaning towards Glock 27 as the second one. Earliest civilian opening to qualify is two month from now so I have time to change my mind. Qual test has generous times and distances from 2 to 25 yards. I practiced it this weekend. I score 93, 98, 98 percent. I need 75 percent score for one firearm and 90 percent for two so I'm going to be fine on the shooting. I will practice it every week till then to ensure the test is uneventful.
 
I have a G21SF, G27, and my friend has an LCP.

I would totally buy another gun. A Glock 42. Barring that, I would probably take the LCP. But then again, I went and got my CCW even though I live in a state where anyone can carry... and I don't carry. I guess I'm too lazy to hump around a gun, even though I have a few the size of a ppk or smaller.
 
None of the above, if i would choose from the myrad of pistols available for concealed carry the Glocks listed and certainly the LCP would not be my pick.
 
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