Nightcrawler
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I've read about .30 Luger, and how it's basically a necked-down 9x19mm. Meaning it can be chambered in any 9mm pistol with a barrel swap, prettymuch.
Some people are very firmly in the small/light/fast bullet camp, and right now the kings of that are 9x19mm and .357 Sig (in autoloaders). 9mm is cheaper and more available, but .357 delivers more velocity.
So what if a "modernized" .30 Luger were available from a major ammo company, in JHP and FMJ forms (maybe even JSP)? It'd be a modern, +P, high pressure case, and with a barrel swap could be used in any of your 9mm pistols (high cap magazines and everything).
Performance wise, .30 Luger leaves something to be desired. The current Winchester loading offers a 93 grain bullet at 1220 feet per second. 9x19mm can do that with a 124 grain bullet in +P+ NATO spec loads (and will be find if fired out of a strong gun).
So let's imagine that as part of the package, the big ammo company was making +P+ .30 Luger loads, pushing bullets weighing from whatever's available in .30 caliber pistol bullets to velocities normally achieved by 7.62 Tokarev, but in a smaller package.
If a 9x19mm/.30 Luger couldn't do it, what about a .40 case necked down to .30 caliber?
So, who'd be up for a small bore, high velocity pistol round like that? If all you needed to buy to shoot the stuff in your 9mm was a new barrel and maybe recoil spring, would you then go for it?
What kind of loads would you like to see? What'd be possible with modern 9mm pressures and strong guns?
Now, I prefer big-bores myself, but there are those that don't, and I'm curious about what people would think of this, if .30 Luger were resurrected somehow.
Some people are very firmly in the small/light/fast bullet camp, and right now the kings of that are 9x19mm and .357 Sig (in autoloaders). 9mm is cheaper and more available, but .357 delivers more velocity.
So what if a "modernized" .30 Luger were available from a major ammo company, in JHP and FMJ forms (maybe even JSP)? It'd be a modern, +P, high pressure case, and with a barrel swap could be used in any of your 9mm pistols (high cap magazines and everything).
Performance wise, .30 Luger leaves something to be desired. The current Winchester loading offers a 93 grain bullet at 1220 feet per second. 9x19mm can do that with a 124 grain bullet in +P+ NATO spec loads (and will be find if fired out of a strong gun).
So let's imagine that as part of the package, the big ammo company was making +P+ .30 Luger loads, pushing bullets weighing from whatever's available in .30 caliber pistol bullets to velocities normally achieved by 7.62 Tokarev, but in a smaller package.
If a 9x19mm/.30 Luger couldn't do it, what about a .40 case necked down to .30 caliber?
So, who'd be up for a small bore, high velocity pistol round like that? If all you needed to buy to shoot the stuff in your 9mm was a new barrel and maybe recoil spring, would you then go for it?
What kind of loads would you like to see? What'd be possible with modern 9mm pressures and strong guns?
Now, I prefer big-bores myself, but there are those that don't, and I'm curious about what people would think of this, if .30 Luger were resurrected somehow.
