Even the best manufacturers put out a lemon or two. Ever have a brand new gun that was defective out of the box? Whether missing/broken/incorrectly assembled parts or failure to function correctly, it really dampens your spirits. Had this just happen to a co-worker with a M1911A1 (Auto-Ordnance, I think) and he was pretty miffed.
Who's had a defective firearm right out of the box?
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gulogulo1970
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I bought a S&W 329PD that had a crack in the frame that I didn't notice till I got home. I was pretty upset, upset at myself for not seeing it before I bought it.
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Yep.
Also Yep for folks I've witnessed as well.
Hence the reason I prefer the Older well crafted firearms with real metallurgy, no internal / infernal locks,funky finishes ... and tricked out bling bling.
Also Yep for folks I've witnessed as well.
Hence the reason I prefer the Older well crafted firearms with real metallurgy, no internal / infernal locks,funky finishes ... and tricked out bling bling.
another okie
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Beretta NEOS. I've found three burrs so far and had them ground off. It wouldn't go into battery consistently. Grinding the burrs off has fixed that, but I'm still having an occasional feeding problem. Actually I think there's a small burr on the feed ramp.
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Had a 642 that didn't lock up on slow DA, out of the box. Dealer sent it back to S&W and they fixed it (new hand, I presume).
Had a Colt Agent that had a horribly fitted sideplate, rode so high I couldn't use a speedloader, but it worked, and the innards were actually fitted very well.
Charter Arms AR-7 was a jam-o-matic POS.
Had a Colt Agent that had a horribly fitted sideplate, rode so high I couldn't use a speedloader, but it worked, and the innards were actually fitted very well.
Charter Arms AR-7 was a jam-o-matic POS.
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I bought a Charter Arms AR-7 whose stock fixing screw wouldn't screw into the reciever -- not long enough or mis threaded or something.
10-Ring
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Yeah, I've had one 
A SIG P220 that had THE WORSE TRIGGER PULL EVER! :banghead: The guy at the gun shop ran out of weights at 15# on the DA trigger pull and was 9# SA Sold it & haven't looked back
A SIG P220 that had THE WORSE TRIGGER PULL EVER! :banghead: The guy at the gun shop ran out of weights at 15# on the DA trigger pull and was 9# SA Sold it & haven't looked backRandy in Arizona
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OM Ruger Bearcat $40 new, Firing pin too short to reliably fire primers.
Santa Fe Arms 03-A3 $40 new, Receiver out of line, barely caught bolt on boltstop.
Took both back to the dealer, traded for a Browning Challenger, SN 102113U8.
I loaned it to an uncle that was having neighbor problems, it was stolen in a break in.
I still have an OM Super Single Six that has the barrel roll markings at an angle, but that is a defect that does not affect functioning.
Santa Fe Arms 03-A3 $40 new, Receiver out of line, barely caught bolt on boltstop.
Took both back to the dealer, traded for a Browning Challenger, SN 102113U8.
I loaned it to an uncle that was having neighbor problems, it was stolen in a break in.
I still have an OM Super Single Six that has the barrel roll markings at an angle, but that is a defect that does not affect functioning.
DWS1117
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Yep
Colt Defender. Bad extractor, and wouldn't feed corectly with the factory magazines. Not much fun trying to shoot when almost every spent case gets left in the chamber while the next round, when it did feed correctly, would try to go into a full chamber.
Feed problem got fixed with new mags. Called Colt to ask them to send and extractor. They wanted me to send them the whole gun on my nickle. After much jabbering and several calls. they finally sent an extractor. Replaced it with a Wilson extractor then traded the gun.
Colt Defender. Bad extractor, and wouldn't feed corectly with the factory magazines. Not much fun trying to shoot when almost every spent case gets left in the chamber while the next round, when it did feed correctly, would try to go into a full chamber.
Feed problem got fixed with new mags. Called Colt to ask them to send and extractor. They wanted me to send them the whole gun on my nickle. After much jabbering and several calls. they finally sent an extractor. Replaced it with a Wilson extractor then traded the gun.
From the oldguy view point ,modern quality control sucks, now you pay your
money and pull the handle, companies are more interested in getting the product out the door rather then be concerned if its up to standard.
signed: an old QC supervisor.
money and pull the handle, companies are more interested in getting the product out the door rather then be concerned if its up to standard.
signed: an old QC supervisor.
Around 1978 or 79, I bought a Winchester Model 70 in 25.06. The 3-position safety wouldn't go all the way to full safe. I carried it back to the small town dealer where I bought it. He said " No problem, I'm a gunsmith,and I can fix it."
I came back in a couple of days to pick it up. Sure enough, it would swing back and forth slick as you please. I don't know what made me do it, but I slid the safety to "Full Safe", pulled the trigger,and then slid it to "Fire". The most terrible sound you ever heard came next------SNAP!!!!
It turns out this dumda$$ ground the sholder off of the firing pin to make the safety work. You should have seen the size of his eyes when that firing pin released. I found an "Authorized Winchester Gunsmith" in a local town to make it right.
I came back in a couple of days to pick it up. Sure enough, it would swing back and forth slick as you please. I don't know what made me do it, but I slid the safety to "Full Safe", pulled the trigger,and then slid it to "Fire". The most terrible sound you ever heard came next------SNAP!!!!
It turns out this dumda$$ ground the sholder off of the firing pin to make the safety work. You should have seen the size of his eyes when that firing pin released. I found an "Authorized Winchester Gunsmith" in a local town to make it right.
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I had a loose front sight on my Sig P226 which Sig repaired for me at no charge.
OH25shooter
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Yes.....
Marlin 1894C: returned for cracked stock
S&W 629: returned for timing problem
S&W 908: returned for fail to eject problems
Ruger 22/45: returned for ejection problems
I still have each gun described, but it is a pain to send them back to the factory. What a hassle.
I've bought new cars that were lemons. I'm beginning to believe QC is a thing of the past.
Marlin 1894C: returned for cracked stock
S&W 629: returned for timing problem
S&W 908: returned for fail to eject problems
Ruger 22/45: returned for ejection problems
I still have each gun described, but it is a pain to send them back to the factory. What a hassle.
I've bought new cars that were lemons. I'm beginning to believe QC is a thing of the past.
My first H&K USP45 lost the left rear frame rail (what the slide rides on) the first time I shot it. There was a recall for all the pistols in that original production run.
My first Springfield Armory M1A was recalled right after I got it. The cast bolts Springfield was using at the time were breaking at one of the locking lugs. The Scout model I replaced it with blew up first time shooting. The replacement Scout had severe problems with the gas system, even after the second trip back to the factory. The last one was a full size rifle and worked OK most of the time.
My Springfield SAR8 had a very tight magazine well.
Those are just off the top of my head.
My first Springfield Armory M1A was recalled right after I got it. The cast bolts Springfield was using at the time were breaking at one of the locking lugs. The Scout model I replaced it with blew up first time shooting. The replacement Scout had severe problems with the gas system, even after the second trip back to the factory. The last one was a full size rifle and worked OK most of the time.
My Springfield SAR8 had a very tight magazine well.
Those are just off the top of my head.
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I bought a Smith & Wesson model 27-2 in 1978 or 1979 with a grossly inaccurate barrel. I sent it back to Smith & Wesson, which sent me a gun with a somewhat less defective, but still inaccurate barrel.
http://www.clarkcustomguns.com did it right years later.
http://www.clarkcustomguns.com did it right years later.
Bought my sister a Henry .22 lever rifle. Out of the box, the sights would not move over enough to make it hit paper at 15 yards. Also, now it won't extract any brass after firing a shot. Henry told me I could send it back, but I haven't gotten around to it yet.
Phil Ca
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The only one that I bought that was defective out of the box was the first firearm I ever bought. I was 18 and in the army in Germany. I went to the Coleman Barracks Rod and Gun Club and bought a Winchester 77 Rifle. It was a .22LR and the sear was defective. Sometimes it would empty all seven rounds from the magazine in a single pull and release of the trigger. It was fun to shoot but no good for plinking at cans.
One day on the way back to my barracks after a session on the range my buddy and I were stopped by two MPs in a jeep. They anted to know if we had seen anyone at the range firing a submachine gun! We replied that we had seen No one at the range with a subgun. We did not bother to mention that my rifle was doublong and trippling ad even quadrupling when fired.
I ended selling it some time later to sergeant that was an amateur gunsmith. He managed to work on it and cure the problem.
One day on the way back to my barracks after a session on the range my buddy and I were stopped by two MPs in a jeep. They anted to know if we had seen anyone at the range firing a submachine gun! We replied that we had seen No one at the range with a subgun. We did not bother to mention that my rifle was doublong and trippling ad even quadrupling when fired.
I ended selling it some time later to sergeant that was an amateur gunsmith. He managed to work on it and cure the problem.
Zach S
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My Kimber Polymer (BUL M5) would slide-lock with rounds left in the mag. I just changed the slide stop. It may have worked out after break-in, just never gave it the chance. As I understand it, it was a common problem with BUL pistols.
My Para Companion's extractor wouldn't hold tension. I swapped it with a Wilson BP extractor. Factory mag wouldnt lock the slide back when empty. Also replaced with a Wilson, several actually. Never failed again.
Otherwise, I cant recall any. Of course, I've got less than a dozen, not all were new.
edit: Oh, I did have a minor problem with my Taurus M85UL, cant remember what it was though.
My Para Companion's extractor wouldn't hold tension. I swapped it with a Wilson BP extractor. Factory mag wouldnt lock the slide back when empty. Also replaced with a Wilson, several actually. Never failed again.
Otherwise, I cant recall any. Of course, I've got less than a dozen, not all were new.
edit: Oh, I did have a minor problem with my Taurus M85UL, cant remember what it was though.
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