Why all the Glock hate?

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This thread is a call for manufacturers to make a "Glocksauer 1911 model" in a hurry!!! Otherwise the rioting will continue!
errr...is the S.A. XD "it"? ;)
Or does it need a wood grip panel and then, its "it"? :D Photoshop, anyone?
 
Glock Hate

I have several friends who love and swear by them. I have no doubt they are great guns, but they just don't feel right in my hands. This just reinforces my belief, contrary to that of others, that there is no one perfect gun for everyone.
 
Because the only plastic that should come near a handgun is a MasterCard !!!
Besides I get tired of seeing all of the gangbangers " wid da gangsta lean be sootin em sideways to be lookin' kool an sit"
Just my .02
 
So let me get this right:

Glock=No Safety=Bad

Revolver=No Safety=Good

Ok, how about this one:

Polymer=stronger than steel=bad

Polymer=lightweight=bad

And finally:

Glock=bad

XD series=Copy of Glock=Good?

I can understand the ugliness part. If I wanted pretty guns, I wouldn't have a C&R license. I like functional guns.
 
can we all just be friends and play nice ?

as you all can tell by my name i love glock. i think glock is the best gun made. i've owned many different types and name brands ( springfield .45's , sigs, kel-tecs, smiths, springfield xd's, and many more ) i think they are all good guns if you take care of them they will take care of you when needed. i think out of all guns glocks is what offers me what i want in a hand gun. i own many other types of guns that are not glocks and i love all my toys, but if you remember when you was a kid, you had your favorite toy, right now glock is mine. i just joined this sight today, i have never done this kind of thing before. heck i'm still learning how to use a computer and i think this was fun and i hope to hear from all out there. i just love all guns but i love glock the most. :)
 
The claims that early Glocks could be made to fire if struck has some basis in fact. Actually the same thing could happen with a 1911 - why do you think all new ones have the firing pin plunger safety?

Glock recognized the problem was possible and performed FREE updates on all their early pistols, whereas it took Colt 40 years to admit it.

These stories are repeated so often that many people believe them while those who depend upon them to buttress their positions conveniently leave out pertinant information. Naughty, naughty.....
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No. SA never had a drop safety; the high dollar 1911's don't have them either. As for SOME of the others, that is a lawyer invention. The problem glock realized is the cost of lawsuits and settlements outweighed the cost of "updating" a slew of pistols.

And why are people throwing their CCW's in mud and freezing them solid and other such strange actions? I don't understand the purpose, what does it prove exactly? My gun sits on my side in a nice soft suede(SP?) holster. Very far away from mud and frozen tundra and accidental suicide leaps from airplanes.

As far as the fantastic plastic that I love to hate. My 21 shot very well. It was certainly a two handed gun, but shot nicely. If I HAD to take a block, the 19 seems to have the right combination of size, capacity and fit. The 19 also points and manuvers very well. Now if they made the 36 in a fullsize (5"), that would make me all warm and fuzzy.
 
Conceding that, yes, there is a place in this world for Glocks, they just don't have a place in my world anymore. Sold my Glocks because I got so damned tired of pulling the trigger and waiting for the damned thing to decided whether or not to wake up, get out of bed, and have a cup of coffee before going to work and go bang. Doesn't matter if I can put 1"-2" groups at 15yds with a 17, 34, 22, 24, 35 or 21 if I can't stand the trigger action.
 
LeonCarr.... No way are you that poor. Go splurge and get something meaningful inked somewhere.

Any gun can be really ugly and without a soul.... it's all about the situation you are in and which end you are looking at.

I don't hate any of the guns I own and I'll even admit to have a Jennings 22lr in my collection, (take it out sometimes for plinking but pray never have to have it in my hands when fearful). I carry CCW guns in collection that have individually proven reliable to me with a given load that I am comfortable with and have confidence, (Glock included...).

There is no perfect or flawless guns. All of our mechanical spring operated bullet launchers will fail sometimes. Train for it. Prepare for it regardless of whose name is stamped on the slide. If you don't train and prepare for it than Murphy's law indicates that you might die with a quizical look on you face as you are staring at a malfunctioned firearm in your fist.

I think a lot of "hate" has been generated in the past 10 or so years where LE departments felt the need to "unify" side arms. When folks are allowed to pick and choose they will usually find a firearm that they are most comfortable with and shoot best. When you attempt the opposite than department cheifs are driving a square peg into a round hole. My brother absolutely hates Glocks. He started his career with a Security Six with which he chose and was very comfortable with. He transitioned to a Sig when the Dept he works for transitioned to semi's. He chose the Sig, was extremely confident and comfortable with the Sig. When he was forced to carry a Glock when the Dept "unified" he was very upset. It is not the gun he chose and is most comfortable with nor has he ever acheived the same official range scores with the Glock than with his previous Sig or Security Six. He really does hates Glocks. I have tried to soften him but I have failed.

If you like it than buy it own it and enjoy it. If you don't than just leave the rest of the guys to their peace. If you REALLY like it and think it is the most awesome thing known to mankind since homogonized milk, gas piston engines and sunshine............ shut up and leave the rest of us to our peace.
 
If the need ever arises to have to use your pistol as a club, you adversary will laugh as he/she is getting "plastic-whipped"! :uhoh: (Goes the same for XPs or any other toys).
 
We have a local PD (one of the largest in the state) which adopted an Officer's Choice handgun policy last year. They can carry an pistol they can qualify with in 9mm, .357 SIG, .40, 10mm or .45 ACP. It must use department issue Speer ammo and it CANNOT be a single action pistol.

The previous standard issue handgun was the Beretta 96. About 75% of the officers went with various caliber Glocks, some stuck with the Beretta, a few use Para LDAs. The SWAT team voted to use the Glock 22. Officers were polled regarding the single action restriction and only five stated they'd like to carry a 1911.
 
Spacecowboy wrote:

what does it prove exactly? My gun sits on my side in a nice soft suede(SP?) holster.
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It proves that the Glock is more rugged than the other guns in this test:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=4&t=15432

That may not matter under normal circumstances, but what if you ever find yourself in an adverse situation where you don't have the luxury of storing your gun in a nice safe holster overnight? It would only take a small shift in our social situation for you to find yourself crawling on your belly through a muddy, sandy, mucky swamp while people were shooting at you. In such a SHTF scenario, I'd want a gun that will work after being dunked in the salt water and mud and sand. In other words, I'd want a Glock, and not any of the other guns in the test shown in the above link.
 
If I ever have to use my pistol as a club, I think I've got bigger problems than am I carrying my Glock or 1911 today! :rolleyes:
 
I think the point of the Glock torture tests in the links I posted is that the probability of having to use your gun as a club increases with non-Glocks in extreme conditions. The other guns in the test were only usable as clubs while the Glock still functioned as a gun.

I have a friend, a fellow who raced motorcycles for the Harley factory team in the 1960s, who wears a t-shirt that says: "If Harley built an airplane, would you fly in it?" Say what you want about Harley's "soul," the fact is that Harleys break down more often than any other major brand of motorcycle. Tolerable in a motorcycle, which is for all practical purposes a toy, but not tolerable in an airplane, where mechanical reliability is a matter of life or death.

Rephrase that question and ask yourself, would you rather fly in an airplane built by Glock or an airplane built by another gunmaker?
 
After custom 1911's Glocks are my preferred sidearms. They are reliable accurate and easy to shoot well.
Pat
 
Again, Standing Wolf is about right on all counts!!




Let us speak of many things, shoes and ships and sealing wax......
 
I suppose it is because Glock-o-philes are so damn snotty, like the fat rich kid on the block who comes by and says his bike is sooooo much better than every body elses. It is irritating and as such, the response against them is generally bad. Same goes with Glock. They are fine, durable, reasonably accurate and reliable. But it is friggin arrogant to go around telling everyone that your Glock is better, stronger, tougher, yadda yadda yadda than anybody elses firearm. Read Glock fans postings about it here. It is that fat kid with the bike, or more correctly, the mall ninja with his Glock.

I will take my CZ-75 against any Glock any day. I'll take the P-01 against the Glock as well. If Glock nuts would spend less time trying to tell us how theirs were better than ours, we would certainly get along.

Ash
 
Every gun probably has its place. For me, ...

1. if I were filling up a land fill, I would take a Jennings
2. if I were going to the range with my old buds, I'll take my 1911
3. if I am in a slow mood and want to just go back in time I'll bring out the revolvers
4. if I want to shoot very acurately at the range I'll bring the CZ 75 SA
5. if I am heading to a gun fight, I'll take Mr. Glock

they all have their role in life
 
??? That may not matter under normal circumstances, but what if you ever find yourself in an adverse situation where you don't have the luxury of storing your gun in a nice safe holster overnight? It would only take a small shift in our social situation for you to find yourself crawling on your belly through a muddy, sandy, mucky swamp while people were shooting at you.???

Uuummhh, Yeah. Some folks have actually spent time in your theoretical situation. None of my assigned weapons failed and none of them were Glocks. I guess that means they are at least equal to a Glock?

Just continue doing really bazaar and kinky stuff with what ever gun you choose and enjoy. I'll happily continue to just shoot, clean and enjoy mine.
 
If I were going to war I would grab my M4 Carbine and my Wilson CQB. I would take a Glock 17 over the CZ any day. Don't care much for crunch tickers myself.
Pat
 
Glock's are fine weapons. I have owned a few of them. I just do not prefer them. To each their own.
 
I think the main purpose of the various "hate" threads circulating is to educate folks about various handguns, and to drive home one main idea: to carry what you believe in. If you believe in the 1911, carry the 1911. If you believe in the Glock, carry the Glock. If you believe in a .50 Action Express Desert Eagle, carry the Desert Eagle. What makes it fun is that you have a choice :).

Medmo, I am still not getting any tats :).

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
 
No hate here, just preference for other models. I have owned a Glock 21, 23 and a model 17. I have had FTFs out of a 23. In fact I have managed to have a FTF in models produced by 5 major manufacturers (SIG, Beretta, Glock, Colt and HK). Then again I have had mdoels which have worked flawlessly.
I only hate the field stripping method for the Glock.
It is interesting to note that with Glocks being soooo durable, why are the big contracts going to? SIG, right? The French (I know, I know flame suit on) Gendarmes just got a contract on the SIG SP2022 and the DOD as well. The US Army uses the M9 (Beretta, I know Glock was not in the competition) and M11 (SIG). The British Army uses SIG. The Germans the HK USP. Why not Glock if they are so much better? Don't these guys go into more harsh and adverse conditions (weather wise) than any LEO?
As far as I know Austria and Norway are the only militaries that issue the Glock (Israel too?)
If anyone has a list of what militaires use what model pistols I'd be interested to see the breakdown by manufacturers.
 
I have a CZ75B and a Glock 21, and I know which one I'd grab in an emergency. It ain't the CZ.

M9 wrote:

It is interesting to note that with Glocks being soooo durable, why are the big contracts going to? SIG, right? The French (I know, I know flame suit on) Gendarmes just got a contract on the SIG SP2022 and the DOD as well. The US Army uses the M9 (Beretta, I know Glock was not in the competition) and M11 (SIG). The British Army uses SIG. The Germans the HK USP. Why not Glock if they are so much better? Don't these guys go into more harsh and adverse conditions (weather wise) than any LEO?
As far as I know Austria and Norway are the only militaries that issue the Glock (Israel too?)
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We all know that the military decision-making process is a paragon of logic.
 
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