Why all the Glock hate?

[Kurt]

The Model 29 / Dirty Harry analogy doesn’t fit well for me.

It’s most certainly NOT simply an infatuation with Glock pistols that causes one to be suspect. It’s the other accompanying obsessive and possessive qualities that usually sink an individual here, and the fact that there are so MANY such individuals leads us to the much larger problem(s).

It all seems so very basic.

 

[Seraph]

I don't have any bone to pick with Glock enthusiasts, I just think they are strange and have no taste in sidearms. As I said, I have a friend who likes Glocks as utilitarian bullet launchers, but he doesn't claim they are the best, or even that they are attractive (in fact, to my amazement, he recently traded that Glock in on a Pre-70 Colt Govt. Model .45). His favorite gun is a blued S&W .357 he got from his father. I merely posted here attempting to relate to the question, "Why all the Glock hate?" Since I don't actually hate Glocks, but merely dislike them, I guess I'm not fully qualified to answer the question in the thread's title. Then again, by the same rationale, the Glock enthusiasts ought to be outright disqualified from testifying on the subject of Glock hate, most of them knowing nothing about it (allowing for those who have a love/hate sentiment toward their Glock). If anyone has gotten sand in their panties, it is because they forgot the question of the thread, or can't tolerate hearing the offered answers to that question.

 

[Biker]

On that note, my preference for Glocks is justified (if it needs to be) by the #1 requirement in Biker's Book of Def. Firearms Rules: It goes bang everytime.
As icing on the cake, it's fairly accurate, carries a generous number of rounds, follows the KISS principle and tolerates low maintainance.
Hey, come ta think of it, that's how I like my women, too!
Biker

 

[Lobotomy Boy]

I would certainly never get so beside myself if another thread were started that asked why some people hate well-adjusted folks who prefer good, solid sidearms.

Sorry Kurt, you seem like a well-adjusted, non-crazy person, but the above quote shows you to be totally off-base on this issue. If you started a thread about why people hate well-adjusted folks who prefer good, solid firearms, you wouldn't see the rabid hatred posted by frothy-mouthed whack jobs that you see when the subject turns to Glock firearms. We Glock enthusiasts aren't being overly sensetive. Read through these posts. If the vitriolic comments directed at Glock fans were spoken about a racial, ethnic, or sexual group, they would be considered terroristic hate crimes. Yet people feel no qualms at all about hurling all forms of bile at us simply because we like Glocks.

I for one am not defending Glock firearms. Glocks do just fine without my help. I am just pointing out the ludicrousness of the arguments used against them, and the immature attitudes of many people making those arguments.

This line of thought has got me wondering--and this is just a thought and not a proposed theory--could the irrational hatred directed towards Glocks be caused by the fact that Glocks are popular in the black community, and that Glock hatred is just racial prejiduce transferred to an inanimate object?

 

[Redneck Revolver]

my personal problem with glocks isnt that they are unreliable or innaccurate, but...well they're ugly...and plastic....call me old fashioned but guns are to be made of wood and metal and wood and metal only. not only that but to me they just seem....i dunno whats the word? they just dont FEEL right in my hands. not just the grip but the fact that its....tainted....of course this is comming from a man who also isnt as fond of beretta as everyone (nothing wrong with them either just not my style)

 

[Kurt]

Racial prejudice as any reason for Glock hate?

Lobotomy Boy, once again about all I can do is just shake my head when I read your stuff.

When I get a mental picture of one of these "special" Glock fans that are on center-stage here, I primarily see an anemic looking adolescent white guy with too many body piercings and tattoos, fluorescent purple hair spikes and wearing tattered black leather and chain whatevers. His t-shirt sayings (and report cards) suggest that he doesn't play well with others. He is relegated to riding a cheap skateboard around town due to the expense of buying his Glock, and by keeping his AR-15 pattern gun in all the current Ninjamousegunstuffandfore-endhanger-ons.

Maybe I don't catch the right movies, or play the necessary PlayStation games, but my thoughts just don't gravitate towards the gangsta's. However, I do get to the range a lot ... and look around during the breaks.

Does that help?

 

[Lobotomy Boy]

I apologize Kurt. I appear to have been completely incorrect in assuming that you are well-adjusted and sane.

 

[Kurt]

Well I do have a reputation to maintain......

 

[Sneaky]

I carried a Glock 23 for quite a while (like 7-8 years) before venturing into other pistols. It never let me down, and I got pretty proficient with it. Not fancy, just worked when I needed it to, and inspired confidence by virtue of it's reliability.

I've since spent some bucks on a Sig 229 in .357SIG, and it rather drastically outclasses my Glock in every respect. It should, for what I paid for it!

That said, I wouldn't go back to the Glock product at this point. I trust the pistol, and it served me very well, but there are many more attractive options out there.

I don't hate Glocks, and certainly have nothing against the men and women that carry them. I do have a problem with closed-minded people who claim it is the 'ultimate semiauto pistol' and refuse to discuss the merits of other pistols in it's class.

 

[coylh]

Redneck Revolver: "but...well they're ugly...and plastic....call me old fashioned but guns are to be made of wood and metal and wood and metal only."

Ok. You're old fashioned.

 

[sixguns]

I remember when Glock's first hit the market and I did not like them for two reasons:

1) They are Ugly!
2) They are made of plastic!

I still to this day don't like them for the same reasons. But I don't hate them.

 

[Sneaky]

Sure, they're not very attractive, but they're designed to do an ugly job. I for one won't hold that against them.

But then, I've been described as 'aesthetically challenged.'

 

[355sigfan]

I have two kinds of guns. Work guns ( guns I use to protect myself) and fun guns. I like my fun guns to be nice looking. But I don't care what my work guns look like so long as they work.
Pat

 

[Ivy Mike]

No Glock hate here, just no love either.

The grip angle is fine with me, but the shape of the grip doesn't agree with my hand. The only one I can stomach is the G19 simply because the recoil is soft. I've fired the 17 and didn't like it. Recoil was easy, but the shape of the grip didn't work. The G22 was even worse. I've never had a .40cal pistol hurt my hand until that monster. The G20 wasn't terrible because of the large nature of the grip, but the shape is still all wrong. I want to cut the hump off and screw on the backstrap from a P99.
Maybe Robar could help me, but I don't want to buy a gun I hate shooting only to spend more and find out I still don't like it.

Instead of a Glock 19, I'll just pick up another FNP-9 to carry.

If Glocks fit my hands a little better, I'd own several.

 

[glocker1911]

First of all, I didn't buy my Glocks because I was influenced by video games (although bingo, I AM a big gamer), I bought them because of Die Hard 2, and man was I bummed when I found out that WEREN'T made of porcelain in Germany, even though they do "cost more than I make in a month"!
Second, on a more serious note, no I do not think if I draw my gun it means I HAVE to shoot it. But if I do draw, it is because the situation is extremely serious, and I guarantee one of the ways it ends WON'T be with me using my gun as a club. If the situation can be handled with THAT level of physical force, my gun wouldn't be out yet. Talk about "enjoy your murder charge", let's see you explain how you were only using your gun to "knock 'em out" and I guess the blow set it off because " I didn't mean to blow their head off."

 

[HKGuns]

That they are "plastic" shouldn't bother anyone, notice a trend in today's gun market? "Plastic" or polymer to use the correct term.

I find that you generally get what you pay for in this world and Glock's are generally inexpensive decent guns. As stated above, they are wholly utilitarian and shoot just fine if you can get beyond a few of their quirks.

There are better made polymer guns on the planet, better made steel guns too. Nothing to get all worked up about.

 

[355sigfan]

I believe Glocks are the absolute best polimer guns on the market. Better than guns costing twice as much. The only steel guns I can think of that are better is custom 1911's. And their only better in some ways. I have tried almost every thing from Sigs, Beretta's, Hk's and custom 1911's and Glocks rank the very best behind only custom 1911's.
Pat

 

[Glock19Fan]

I dont like or hate Glocks...

I love them.

I agree that there are better handguns, however, not every handgun fits every hand. Everyone is different in their preferances.

I agree, the grips on the Glocks can be absolutly horrible, but that can be changed for about $8. I have a Hogue slip on grip, which fits my hands perfectly.

I have about 700 rounds through the gun, not including the owner before me, which told me he put around 100. Out of all of these (which really isnt that much), there hasnt been a single problem of any kind.

Its light, tough, and RELIABLE.

Not only that, but I just might be the only person in the world that likes the Glock 19s looks. I dont know why, I just do. I think the 17, 26, and all other similar sized guns are but ugly, but I like the way the G19 looks.

Just my humble opinion.

http://img117.exs.cx/img117/3668/glock3vl.jpg

 

[Krag]

If you push the rationale further, anyone saying that they hate Glocks because they're made from plastic it the type of person who probably believes that smokeless powder is a passing fad.

Much of the 1911's popularity is based upon the fact that they work and work damn well. Well, in that area 1911s and Glocks are in a dead heat.

I also laugh as those who like to claim the Glock is an inferior pistol because you can't shoot lead bullets out of them. Well I shoot lead bullets out of all my full sized Glocks. You buy a drop in aftermarket barrel and blaze away creating all the lead fumes you want. You will pay for the barrel within a year of shooting lead reloads for practice. And before they start complaining about having to buy an extra barrel just think how much the average 1911 owner sinks into aftermarket parts and 'smithing for his pistol. I've been there and done that on eleven out of my dozen 1911s.

There is no such thing as a "perfect" all around handgun. In certain areas the 1911 is better and in others the Glock shines. I'd hate to be limited to only owning one or the other.

Time and technology wait for no man.

 

[Lobotomy Boy]

Liking Glock's does not mean you hate other guns. The third handgun on my "to buy" list is a 1911. The next two are Glocks.

 

[dsk]

One advantage of a Glock over a custom 1911: after the balloon drops, when you're holding the perp at gunpoint, the police will show up and most likely yell for you to drop your gun (after all they may not know who is the bad guy). Which one are you gonna drop, your $450 Glock or your $2000 Ed Brown custom? And which one would you rather leave rusting inside an evidence locker?

This may sound like a joke, but I'm serious. If you even hesitate for a second to drop your cherished toy on the concrete you may get shot by the police. Not only would I gladly drop a Glock I'll even kick it over to them if they demand it. I can always buy another one just like it.

Moral of the story: the gun you use for defense should be reliable and be something you're confident in, but by no means ever look at it as anything but a tool. If you have any emotional attachment to it at all leave it at home in your safe.

 

[Lobotomy Boy]

Great point, dsk. And don't forget the general beating a carry gun receives josltling around inside a holster all day, every day and being locked inside a car or truck when left behind.

 

[Pilot]

The condition and final disposition of my gun after a shooting and police confiscation is going to be the absolute LAST thing on my mind. And, there are a plethora of guns that can take the abuse of every day use and carry.

 

[355sigfan]

2000 is cheap life insurance. If I had to use it I would not be worried about it so much. I can always buy another pistol.
Pat

 

[Old Dog]

the thread that just won't die ...

Sigh. I swore I wasn't gonna come back to this thread ...

One advantage of a Glock over a custom 1911: after the balloon drops, when you're holding the perp at gunpoint, the police will show up and most likely yell for you to drop your gun (after all they may not know who is the bad guy). Which one are you gonna drop, your $450 Glock or your $2000 Ed Brown custom? And which one would you rather leave rusting inside an evidence locker?

I'm thinking I'm carrying the gun that I train with, the gun that I shoot the most accurately with and the fastest -- my custom 1911, not a Glock 23.

And if it saves my life -- or the life of my wife or one of my daughters, or even another innocent citizen -- my $2000 Ed Brown custom can be lost forever for all I care.

If you have any emotional attachment to it at all leave it at home in your safe.

I'm emotionally attached to ALL my handguns. That's why I no longer own any Glocks.