Why all the Glock hate?

[Bobby Lee]

"Newbies buy them because they are marketed so heavily. Without doing a lot of research, they purchase one and mistakenly think they've purchased "The best"! Only to find out after doing a little research there are better choices in nearly every category. Better polymer choices and better steel choices."

I would like to see what in your opinion is the better choices in "every category"

 

[glocker1911]

If I can get out of a situation with no harm to anyone, great. But if I feel justified in pulling my gun, a "less than lethal pistol whipping" will be tha last thing on my mind. But if I WERE to carry a gun to use as a club, I'd probably pick a Desert Eagle 50AE!

 

[Seraph]

Well, there's one place we can agree. I would never use my 1911 as a club. If it comes out when I'm meeting someone new, it's gonna go BANG!

 

[HKGuns]

I would like to see what in your opinion is the better choices in "every category"

1. Steel...Better choice, most any SIG, S&W or an HKP7M8.
2. Polymer....Better choice, HK USP, P2000 or perhaps even Springer XD.

Don't make me go into the why's...............Its old territory.

 

[larry starling]

I Dont care for glocks!!!have owned a glock 23 and a 27,didnt care for either!I might be a little biased as I own more 1911's than anything!but my second choice would be a Sig in one form or another over a glock!!!!!

 

[glocker1911]

Here's a basic idea to avoid high blood pressure. If you don't like Glocks, great. Don't buy one and go on with what makes you happy. Since you don't like em, you can skip internet threads concerning Glocks, and we don't have to argue with one another over personal choices. What's perfect for me amy be all wrong for you. Thank God there are so many guns to choose from and that we can still own them. No sense beating each other up this much. Move along folks, nothing to see here! :banghead:

 

[Kurt]

Not so fast there - you - fan of Glocks - you.

I'll be honest - I also can't get past most Glock owners I've met.

I will cut some slack for the truly experienced or professional that chooses a Glock for their primary. It's those rabid and naive others that work towards keeping the image of these guns 1/2 step above Jennings/Raven/RG in stomach turning ability for me.

So many other rivalries (Ford/Chevy, Miller/Coors, Blonde/Brunette/Redhead, Remington/Winchester) have always been accomplished between good natured and mature folks on both sides.

This one is sadly different.

 

[Lobotomy Boy]

Calling "most Glock owners" "rabid" and "naive" people that you "can't get past" speaks more poorly about your character than it does of the character of Glock owners.

Saying that buying Glocks is "a pretty much newbie thing" doesn't speak well of your reading skills. I think anyone reading this thread at a third grade level or higher would see that many, if not most of the pro-Glock folks posting on this thread are very experienced.

 

[Fatelvis]

Glocker and Seraph, you two seem to have the attitude that if you pull your gun, there is no turning back, and no other option other than shooting, someone is going to DIE! You`ve been watching too many westerns and Segal movies. Have fun in prison after a wrongful shooting!

 

[nico]

Lobotomy Boy has a good point. IMO, a big part of the reason so many new gun owners buy Glocks is because they've "used" them in games like Counterstrike so they think they're the be-all, end-all of gun technology and quality. BUT, the same is true for HK, and you don't see the same level of hatred for them that you often see for Glocks. There are just as many USP fanboys as there are Glock fanboys, but the USP's higher price makes them less likely to be a first gun purchase. Personally, after firing one, I think Glocks are fine for their intended uses. They may not be the prettiest guns, but nobody can argue that they don't work, and if you're really bothered by the lack of a "real safety," (I'll admit it's a major detractor for me), you can have one retrofitted for not a lot of money. Personally, I think I'd rather have a Glock 17 than my Dad's S&W 910 that I shoot a lot.

 

[JohnKSa]

a big part of the reason so many new gun owners buy Glocks is because they've "used" them in games like Counterstrike

What a ridiculous comment. Pure speculation & totally unsupportable.

 

[nico]

lol obviously you've never played counterstrike

I made a subjective statement based on experiences with people who are dim witted enough to let video games affect their opinions on firearms. I have come across more than one person on other boards and in person who owned, or was thinking about buying a Glock because they saw it in Counterstrike and numerous people who think Glocks and Desert Eagles are the best handguns in existence because of the game. Don't believe me? Fine. After all, this is just the internet.

 

[Gewehr98]

Hate is such a strong word...

I owned a Glock 17. I tried to like it, really. After about a month, I got rid of it like a bad habit. The nice part was I made back my original investment price on just the spare Glock factory hicap magazines that came with it. I took the money and bought another 1911. So I'm more than entitled to say Glocks aren't the be-all, end-all of handguns.

And I love my 2 AK-47's, BTW.

 

[Bobby Lee]

There are many experienced people that have owned Glocks since they first came out in the 80's and they have fired many thousands of rounds through their Glocks with NO malfunctions.

From their experience it is hard for them to believe their Glocks are a junk just because some 1911 owner says they are.

Why do some of you assume they have a mental problem if they defend their choice of firearm?

I don't see the problem with that.

I own many different firearms other than Glocks. They all serve me well or I find them another home. I will not keep an unreliable handgun.

 

[JohnKSa]

"more than one person"="so many new gun owners"

I have no doubt that more than one person has bought a Glock because of a video game or a movie. Saying that video games "a big part of the reason so many new gun owners buy Glocks" is way over the top and completely unsupportable.

I'm willing to bet that more than one person bought 1911 pistols because of the movie "Last Man Standing". But even if that's true, it's not an indictment of the 1911 pistol, nor is it a reason "so many new gun owners have bought 1911 pistols", nor does it reflect badly on 1911 owners.

If ya don't like Glocks then don't buy Glocks. It's real simple. But trying to come up with silly and convoluted reasons why people buy guns you don't like is--well--silly and convoluted...

 

[nico]

Have you read any of my posts in this thread? I said that I liked the one Glock that I've shot and I definitely haven't said anything implying that they're bad guns. My comment wasn't meant as an indictment of Glocks or their owners in general. It was simply an attempt at explaining some of the ignorant hyperbole spouted by some Glock owners about their guns and the resulting resentment by Glock haters.
ie: Some kid who grew up in the city where guns are taboo plays Counterstrike throughout high school, buys a Glock when he's old enough because he thinks it'll defy the laws of physics, thinks his "experience" makes him an expert and mouths off to people who know much more than him, making them resent him. Repeat the scenario a couple times and you have a handful of Glock haters who view all Glock owners the same way as the dumb kid. It's the same type of thinking that creates a market for "barrel extensions" that are supposed to look like silencers.

 

[Seraph]

Glocker and Seraph, you two seem to have the attitude that if you pull your gun, there is no turning back, and no other option other than shooting, someone is going to DIE! You`ve been watching too many westerns and Segal movies. Have fun in prison after a wrongful shooting!

As you were, FatElvis. I won't be drawing my weapon to intimidate or arrest someone. I won't be using it for negotiations. If I don't need it, to save my own life, or another's, I won't draw it at all. If it seems to me that only lethal force will prevent my death or severe injury, then I will draw. If I draw, and my attacker doesn't instantly become a big, fluffy, unarmed CareBear, in the prone, then I will fire. What's your plan, pray tell?

 

[StrikeEagle]

I will say right up front that I have owned over a dozen 1911 pistols and only one (a Para LDA) has ever worked out of the box.

Woah... I won't doubt you, but can you please provide more information here? Exactly what 1911's have you owned? And what exactly were the types of malfunctions you got?

I've owned... off the top of my head...15 or 20 1911's, two of which I built myself from scratch on Essex Frames. I have only had 2 that have failed to perform perfectly right out of the box. And I'm known for using some fairly nasty surplus or homecast ammo.

I love 1911's and am just surprised to hear about this.

best,
StrikeEagle

 

[Fatelvis]

Ser, the fact is, there is no definate plan in the real world. You must let the situation trigger your actions. You have the classic "face to face" confrontation figured out, but there are MANY other situations that happen on the street, home, enclosed space, etc. Do I really have to start dreaming up scenarios?

 

[Seraph]

Fat, none of the near-infinite range of possible scanarios would have me brandishing a gun to make a point, or to negotiate a truce, with my assailant. I presume that anyone I point my pistol at will feel about it the way I would feel about it in their shoes - They would fear for their life, and seek to eliminate the threat. Again, in any of the myriad possible situations in which I might have to use my pistol, my pistol would not be in my hand, were I not in fear for my life. Now, with my pistol pointed at him, my attacker must realise that I am now threatening his life, and I have to assume that if he was willing to kill me before, he is now even more motivated to do so, in defense of his own life. At this point, I would be a fool not to shoot, and shoot to kill, which was the last resort for which I carried and ultimately drew my weapon in the first place. I have no idea where you read that I'm trying to treat this as a martial arts kata, where everything is 1-2-3, kick-block-punch-kiai!!! Maybe you're just feeling preachy.

 

[Fatelvis]

Maybe, have fun with your Glock.

 

[Seraph]

I don't own a Glock. Attention to detail.

 

[Kurt]

I feel the huge amount of twisted panties I’m seeing here is totally unnecessary.

To me this is really only a self-fulfilling prophesy, but I can't help but notice how way too many of the pro-Glockers have lost complete sight of the title of this thread.

FWIW, I would certainly never get so beside myself if another thread were started that asked why some people hate well-adjusted folks who prefer good, solid sidearms.

 

[medmo]

Why is it a "bad" thing that someone bought a firearm because they thought it was really "cool" after seeing it in some form of media??

Do you have any idea how ultimately "cool" I felt when I finally scraped up enough dough to buy my first S&W Mod. 29 44 mag with a 6" bbl.?? Yes, I thought my "Most Powerful Handgun" defied physics also. Thank you Dirty Harry.

 

[nico]

Why is it a "bad" thing that someone bought a firearm because they thought it was really "cool" after seeing it in some form of media??

it isn't necessarily. What's bad is when someone who does that thinks that owning that gun makes them an expert.