Why all the Glock hate?

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Well sir, you have me there. For pocket carry sans holster, a hammerless J-frame-sized revolver certainly beats a Glock--and just about every other autoloader handgun--hands down. If your only criteria for assessing the worth of a handgun is whether or not it's suitable for pocket carry, then you must own nothing but J-frame revolvers. I can only assume you stumbled into this forum by accident and will be returning to the revolver forum momentarily. ;)

For pocket carry I own a J-frame-sized revolver so I bought my Glock 21 for other uses than pocket carry. To be honest, the 21 has more going against it for pocket carry than just the safety trigger, like the fact that it's almost as big as a Geo Metro. Even so, it does work surprisingly well for IWB carry with a proper holster.
 
. "revolvers have been carried naked in pockets for the past 100 years with very little problems". While on the other hand, how many of you would want to carry a Glock in your pocket the same way?"

I sometimes carry a Glock in my coat pocket. As long as there is nothing else in your pocket with the gun there is no danger of it firing.

I don't make this a full time habit but I don't have anything to worry about when I do.

The Glock is more or less basically a DAO pistol and most have at least a 5lb trigger pull with a lot of travel. They will not fire if a fly lands on the trigger.
 
I have run across a couple of used 26s with 3.5-lb triggers lately. To me that doesn't make a lot of sense in a carry gun, but to each his own.
 
"Bobby Lee.. We All Can't Be Experts Like You..!!

Bobby Lee.. you said, "It seems to me that someone with 40 plus years of firearms experience would know the Glock is not a single action".

You made incorrect statements about the Glock. I only corrected your mistake. You admited you know NOTHING about them.

Also no one is trying to sell you a Glock. If you don't want one that is fine with me.
 
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NO Bobby Lee.. You're Wrong!!

When you said, "It seems to me that someone with 40 plus years of firearms experience would know the Glock is not a single action".. you weren't trying to correct my mistake, but rather it was quite obvious by the tone of what you said, your intent was to cut me down.

Look at how "Chris Rhines" stated his answer, ie:..

"Nope, not quite.

When a Glock pistol has a round in the chamber, the striker is partly cocked. It is under some spring tension, but not enough to ignite a primer. The trigger has to be pulled fully to the rear, which moves the striker the rest of the way back, then releases it." - Chris

Chris, in a very non-confrontational way, pointed out how the Glock trigger/firing pin worked. I read his comment/explaination and at NO time did I think it was nothing more than what it was.. a explanation.

Just because I'm not a EXPERT on the Glock like you, doesn't diminish my firearms background or the knowledge I do have. If I were to say where my strongest knowledge base lies, it would be in the STAR firearms line.. and the FireStar_M40 in particular.

That being the case, would it be fair of me to believe that you, (the Glock expert), would know how many safeties the FireStar_M40 may or may not have, what they are.. and how they interact with each other? Of course not.

Don't sell someone short just because they may not have as strong a expert knowledge base in a particular firearm (Glock as a example), as you do.

FireStar_M40
 
I know exactly how the Firestar M-40 works. I can detail strip one down to every single part. I have owned a few and repaired a few.

Because of this knowledge I feel that I an qualified to comment on the overall safety of the Firestar pistol if someone asked.

If you have no knowledge of the Glocks design then I don't feel you are qualified to comment on it's safety.

I am sure if someone posted that your Firestar was a DAO pistol and that made it "dangerous" you would respond exactly the same way I did.
 
yap,yap,yap.. blah ,blah,blah. Every weapon has it's horror stories, some people even consider 1911's to be unsafe. If you don't feel safe with a weapon then don't carry it. What's it matter if the weapon has 3,2 or no safeties? Keep your finger off the freaking trigger and you won't have a problem.
 
To me the fact that a Glock will not fire without a trigger pull makes it safe for me. I have control of my trigger finger. I have the ability pull the trigger if I want it to fire and the ability NOT to pull the trigger when I am not firing the weapon.

It is the guns such as a Jennings or Bryco that can fire without a trigger pull that are dangerous.


All the BS about the LAPD smacking the Glock with a night stick and it firing is a complete LIE.

Just like the other LIE that I used to hear all the time about the CSI shooting his partner with the Glock found at a crime sene.

It was claimed the CSI picked the Glock up by putting his ink pen through the trigger guard and it fired killing his partner.
 
Good, I'm Glad To Hear That Bobby Lee..!!

As you said.. "I know exactly how the Firestar M-40 works. I can detail strip one down to every single part. I have owned a few and repaired a few.

Because of this knowledge I feel that I am qualified to comment on the overall safety of the Firestar pistol if someone asked."

Good, I'm Glad To Hear That Bobby Lee..!!

This is not the only firearms web site I'm on. Sometimes on the other sites I find questions that have been asked about various Star products. Now that I know you have a extensive Star background, I'll make it a point to direct all Star questions asked, to you here at THR. I just have that feeling that you're the type of person who's more than willing to pass on your extensive knowledge to those who are not as fortunate.

FireStar_M40
 
And I will be sure to send all questions that require answers that are based on opinions of subjects that you know nothing about and "feelings" and general BS to you.

Then we can both provide the info that is needed.
 
Bobby Lee, You Suprise Me..!!

I'm suprised at your immature response to my heartfelt gratitude I have in your ability to point out my obvious shortcomings.

I, on the other hand, was very sincere when I said "you seemed to be the type of person who's more than willing to pass on their extensive knowledge to those who are not as fortunate".

I am not suggesting this relates to you, but a response such as, ie: "..subjects you know nothing about and general BS", might lead one to question why a person who has such a extensive knowledge base, would come up with such a weak and ineffectual comment in the first place.

But then again.. to each their own.

FireStar_M40
 
I, on the other hand, was very sincere when I said "you seemed to be the type of person who's more than willing to pass on their extensive knowledge to those who are not as fortunate".
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If I made a mistake and took your comment the wrong way I am sorry.
 
The problems with Glocks are;

1. They arent revolvers

2. I am old and guns are made of steel, not plastic.

3. I cannot get a comfortable grip on one.

4. Although the ones I have fired have been very accurate, the recoil just doesn't feel right.

Other than that, they're fine.
 
So, after 5 pages is it safe to end this by saying Glocks generally suck and the people who own them don't know any better?
 
End this thread?

Are you kidding?

It's become my daily-stop therapy session!

(and I'm glad I have so many new friends!)
 
I’ve owned a Glock since 1993. I’ve persuaded several of my friends to purchase Glocks and have no regrets in doing so. I do not appreciate or like the Glock attitude that has become prevalent in recent years and is certainly reflected in this thread. There are a ton of posts in this thread and I believe the general attitude is there are lots of people who like Glock and lots of people who don’t care for Glock. What I can’t understand is why there are so many pro-Glock posts in a thread that was initiated to discuss Glock hate? I can appreciate and absolutely expect to see some positive Glock comments, but there are several people who’ve upped their post count by about 20 offering rebuttals to every negative comment made about Glock. If I were to say that I my Glocks were less reliable than my Beretta or HK, I’m certain someone would feel the need to reeducate me and direct me to some irrelevant torture test conducted on another website, totally discounting my own personal experience. There is some notion of invincibility with these pistols and if you go against this grain, the new crowd will chastise you for your ignorance or dishonesty. This is what I’ve grown to dislike about Glock. It has very little to do with the pistol itself.
 
So, after 5 pages is it safe to end this by saying Glocks generally suck and the people who own them don't know any better?
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Not at all. I just quit because I was taught that it's not nice to tease crazy people.

Yesterday a friend and I went to an open house at a gun shop and shot a Kahr PM9 and a Para LDA Carry. Both were nice guns, but both gave us some problems. The feeder lips appeared to be deformed on the Kahr and it had some feeding issues. The magazine on the Para didn't want to lock in place and again we had some feeding problems. When they worked both were nice guns though. Then we took out a used Glock 26 that my buddy had just bought. I'd never shot the gun before, but I proceded to put magazine after magazine through a 1-inch hole right on the ten ring, where I was getting 4-inch patterns at the same distance with the much more expensive Kahr and Para.

Make of that what you will, but for my buddy and I it only reinforced our decisions to primarily purchase Glock autoloaders in the future.
 
Is it just me,

....or is there something wonderfully ironic about someone who calls himself "Lobotomy Boy" - calling other people crazy.

Anyway, just like they say that there’s someone for just about everyone, successful incidents with Glocks do happen. I just don’t see that fact as any reason to hail these things from the rooftops.

If I hear about a bad isolated incident with Colts, Mausers, Smith’s, Sig etc, I sure wouldn’t hold that up as any general deportment of the entire breed. With the oddity that is Glock, the mass of opinions are certainly NOT based on isolated incidents.

Dis-a-gree-ers please witness this thread . . . for starters.

;)
 
If it can't end I may as well add a sixth page! No there is definitely something wrong with a labotomized person calling those who don't worship at the alter of Glock crazy......too many good pistols out there to do that.

Glocks are for tactical poser, wannabe's who are willing to compromise.

In a world full of compromise, some don't.

Edit: Darn, still only 5 pages.
 
Shoudek
I've been carrying since God was a boy, I've seen the elephant and I'm still here to talk about it. I usually carry a Taurus 450 and, on occasion, a Glock 23 with the occasional AMT 380 Backup. I've fired 15-16,000 plus rounds through my G23 without a single malfuction. I've used this weapon when competing in IPSC and IDPA and walked away with a Trophy or three. So, where the hell do you get off calling me a poser or a wannabe?
Put your brain into gear before your mouth, boy.
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