Why all the posts on people getting shot?

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I don't read on auto boards about the news of cars crashing and hurting people.
 
I view it as us staying up to date on the fuel the anti's are going to be using against us. Carolyn McCarthy isn't exactly going around trying to ban a Corvette or Hum-vee as opposed to the Barrel shrouds that flip up.
 
I don't read on auto boards about the news of cars crashing and hurting people.
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One of the basic premises of Oleg starting this site was to advance the idea that the Second Amendment is just the restating of a basic human right to defend onesself.

Time and again we are told by the powers that be, government, doctors, take your pick, that firearms are only bad and that if you need protection the "government" will take care of that for you.

In each one of these shootings, crimes, tragedies, there is the unmentioned possibility (in the media at least) that a normal person, if allowed to have a firearm present, could have stopped or mitigated these acts.

We tend to disect each one of these incidents and play "what if" to demonstrate that there is NEARLY ALWAYS the possibility that an legally armed, law abiding citizen, if allowed to have their weapon, could have made a difference and saved lives.

Guns DO have the potential to save lives, and in books by Dr Lott and others the data is out there to see.

Every one of these stories MIGHT have ended different if you or I were sitting there with a gun. Maybe not, but that chance, that God given right to fight to your very last breath with the best tools you can get your hands on, should exist for all of us and in most cases it simply does not.

Everyone of us needs to be able to explain that position to anyone that will listen.
 
Generally there's lessons to be learn in a "good" shooting or a "bad" shooting.

When the shootings are discussed, many times information about what is legal or not is presented that many people do not know.

Also it tends to make people think about what they would do in the same situation.

You can never know too much about something as serious as the defensive use of a gun.
 
I understand what you guys are saying, but is a dscussion about a shooting really a "gun related" topic? Seems to me that the only way a shooting would be a gun discussion is if we were discussing the gun used or the quality of the shooting, Which would be not only incredibly sick and disrespectful, but frankly would make me question your mental health.
 
I understand what you guys are saying, but is a dscussion about a shooting really a "gun related" topic?
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Is a discussion of how to keep our Second Amendment rights a "gun related" topic?

The very first rule for topics at THR reads:

1.) All topics and posts must be related to firearms or civil liberties issues.
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Unfortunately Tex, for many (IMO - most) of the anti's, guns are an emotional issue. We all share the fear of death according to psychologists, some people have taken that fear and branched out whether because they suffer from emotional issues or chemical imbalances. There are names for people that fear going outside or in crowded places - agoraphobia, people afraid of clowns - Coulrophobia, fear of insects -Entomophobia. In fact here is a link to a list I found after Googling Fear of http://www.phobialist.com/
Interestingly, they say on this website that mankind has not yet developed a fear of guns (http://www.phobialist.com/class.html), I disagree. I think this is the core of many anti-second amendment people, at least those without the People (Population) Control ulterior motive.
All these threads of shooting will only strengthen both sides to continue their fight. Now if only the anti's would teach us how to successfully use a chair in defense of a lunatic shooting a gun, maybe I too would become anti gun (yeah right).
 
Interestingly, they say on this website that mankind has not yet developed a fear of guns (http://www.phobialist.com/class.html), I disagree. I think this is the core of many anti-second amendment people, at least those without the People (Population) Control ulterior motive.
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Good stuff there :)

Have you read Jeff Coopers take on this? He claimed there WAS gun phobia already, he called it hoplophobia

Good reading anyway but I haven't seen the original article he wrote posted anywhere.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoplophobia
 
CountGlockula, I missed out on at least two of your five, I chose to be a cop and take out my aggression on those that preyed on the weak. It's about making the right choice, mine came from making wrong choices after growing up in a single parent home where mom worked 14 hours a day, no quality environment and few good role models and little to believe in except that I could differentiate between good and evil.
 
I chose to be a cop and take out my aggression on those that preyed on the weak
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Either you have the wrong motivation or you need to re-phrase that statement.
 
Why all the posts on people getting shot?

Bigger question : Why are we are having this rash of shootings in an election year? Crime seems unusually bad and convienient for those who would use it to infringe on the individual's right to keep and bear arms.
 
Either you have the wrong motivation or you need to re-phrase that statement.
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I was motivated by the strong preying on the weak. Most good cops that I knew were motivated by the same reasoning, does that surprise you?
 
My thoughts and summaries.

george29, I respect what you do for protecting the sheep and eliminating the wolves. Thank you for your service.

The factors of these shooting always come down to this: environment.

Student Kills 2, Self at La. College-The pressures of fitting in, graduating, career choices, fear of failure, domestic relationship problems; these plays a factor.

A gunman, with a grudge, killing five before being killed by the police in Missouri-Bitterness, wrongfulness, not accepting throwing the towel, mental stability, problem with authority, injustice; these plays a factor.

LA SWAT Officer killed in action/Los Angeles siege leaves 5 dead, LAPD devastated-Gang affiliation, domestic relationship problems, pressure of acceptance, etc; these plays a factor.

I'm more focused on the solution than the problem. This the world we live in.
 
A person cannot blame all the things they do because of a single parent home. You that alot. I am not even sure that a single person can adopt a child.

I was raised in a single parent home and it has to do with the quality of the parent.
 
Thanks, I don't do it anymore, I retired early on a medical, now I'm an armchair commando. IMO, it comes down to choice. Even a person who grew up in the worst environment knows s/he is doing wrong by killing others, so why do they? Socialogists and Criminologists use the environmental issue as one factor, I disagree. If you factor the lawlessness going on in Iraq today, how many US servicemen were accussed of Rape and then murdering their victims? One? Yet the environment there is pretty bad and one could argue that were environment an issue, then more rapes and murders should have occurred. It's all about controlling urges, and that my friend is a choice.
 
Bigger question : Why are we are having this rash of shootings in an election year? Crime seems unusually bad and convienient for those who would use it to infringe on the individual's right to keep and bear arms.
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Do you really think these psychos,most whom end up suicides or killed by LE, are thinking of politics?
 
Probably becasue no one is trying to BAN CARS. These recent shooting scare the $#@% out of me becasue it give the Anti's ammo for there fight to steal my rights.
 
Bigger question : Why are we are having this rash of shootings in an election year? Crime seems unusually bad and convienient for those who would use it to infringe on the individual's right to keep and bear arms.
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Good question.
It does seem almost like an anti-2nd Amendment strategy at work, doesn't it?
Even though such a conspiracy concept is unthinkable, it's almost a given that the "antis" will try to milk the occurences of shootings for all they can.
Would that somebody capable of clear-headed thought about self defense and gun rights would run for office at the federal level!
 
Do you really think these psychos,most whom end up suicides or killed by LE, are thinking of politics?
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No but the media that run the stories constantly and repeatedly certainly are.
 
Personally, I think posting the stories tend to educate the average person on what really goes on out in the world. Not saying LIVE in that negative atmosphere, but awareness is a good thing.

It suprises me to no end how I can tell someone in this town about the massive cocaine crackdown/deportation we had last year and they had no idea. Same goes for the armed holdups in the WalMart parking lot a few weeks ago.

So yes...it is gun related. Because THEY'RE using guns.
 
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