chevyforlife21
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how come your friend wont shoot it? is he scared?
Why do people buy guns?
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pancakeofdoom
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i agree. kind of weird. personally, i just bought my first handgun a couple weeks ago, and it still isn't loaded with anything. put bout 100rnds so far through it, another couple hundred and i'll probably trust it plenty, and then i still need to take a few classes and buy some literature so i'll be proficient with it, and know the law for carry and defense. same will go for my girlfriend. honestly i'd rather leave it unloaded until both of us are completely competent and know what we're doing. ya, somebody could break in tonight and kill us both, but i'd rather not be uncomfortable with a handgun and end up shooting through walls and killing neighbors and their children (apartment). besides, got through life so far ok with no gun, don't think it'll kill me to wait another few weeks to get all of my facts straight.
but to answer your question, i think its just peace of mind. then again, there are plenty of people that do that with a lot of things, cars, nice clothes, electronics, etc. they get them to have them, not necessarily to use them, or use them correctly unfortunately. applies to a lot of things
but to answer your question, i think its just peace of mind. then again, there are plenty of people that do that with a lot of things, cars, nice clothes, electronics, etc. they get them to have them, not necessarily to use them, or use them correctly unfortunately. applies to a lot of things
1SOW
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I like to reload, shoot and compete; so I do.
I have a life insurance policy, but I don't take it out, reread the fine print, calculate the present value, and remind the inheritors of the procedures to cash it in. I sure don't plan to practice, and I don't socialize with those that do. I have it. They know it. That's enough.
Maybe he feels the same way--might happen once, so years of practice might not seem an economical way to spend time..
Mad Magyar: BUT Speed AND Accuracy is MORE final. Might even want to add quantity to the equation.
I have a life insurance policy, but I don't take it out, reread the fine print, calculate the present value, and remind the inheritors of the procedures to cash it in. I sure don't plan to practice, and I don't socialize with those that do. I have it. They know it. That's enough.
Maybe he feels the same way--might happen once, so years of practice might not seem an economical way to spend time..
Mad Magyar: BUT Speed AND Accuracy is MORE final. Might even want to add quantity to the equation.
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scythefwd
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I would fit into your category. I have several arms, all of which (except my .30-30) have less than 50 rounds through them by me (while I have owned them...some I shot before I owned them). I can still hit what I am aiming at and I can work any of the actions blindfolded (I can even tell you which is which just by weight / feel in my hand). Would I consider my self proficient? Not really, but I'm not as inexperienced as some would guess. I won't win any competitions, but under 50y, I will hit COM with every arm I own. Some I can hit COM out to 100 (including my hand guns) without a thought. My rifles are all 200y weapons in my hands. I learned to shoot properly early in life (started when I was 8, I'm now 30), and I haven't forgotten those lessons.
Why do I buy guns??? Because they aren't free
Why do I buy guns??? Because they aren't free
scythefwd
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ABC fire extinguishers can be recharged. They "expire" because the powder settles into a large brick in the bottom after a time. On post, the fire marshall would inspect the extinguishers. If the powder had settled, he would wack the bottom with a rubber mallet until the mass had broken up. He would then put a new sticker on them and they were good for another year.
I have used my extinguisher, and I can do it without the instructions
It was all my fault too hammerklavier
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To the OP, since you obviously covet your friend's gun, trade him an equivalent weapon to have while you use, clean, oil, and otherwise maintain his for awhile.
I'll bet your friend's attitude matches the majority of handgun owners.
I'll bet your friend's attitude matches the majority of handgun owners.
41magsnub
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Except my guess is you have a subset of those guns that do get shot and you are proficient with. The OP is about folks who buy a single gun and never practice with or carry it.
TheBandit
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I wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of an ex green berets barrel.
Would you know who I was if I asked about your cat and "muzzle discipline"?
texas bulldog
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he is a gun owner who (i assume) hasn't had a ND or otherwise brought negative publicity to RKBA. i think we should probably refrain from judging him.
read the Armed Citizen page in the monthly NRA publication, or go to another source of anecdotes of real people using weapons to protect themselves in real situations, and you will quickly see that many of them have very little or no training. in many cases in the real world, simply having a firearm gets the job done. certainly, that won't always be the case, but i don't feel it's my place to judge the millions of gun owners who are more like your friend than the average THR member.
read the Armed Citizen page in the monthly NRA publication, or go to another source of anecdotes of real people using weapons to protect themselves in real situations, and you will quickly see that many of them have very little or no training. in many cases in the real world, simply having a firearm gets the job done. certainly, that won't always be the case, but i don't feel it's my place to judge the millions of gun owners who are more like your friend than the average THR member.
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Your friend pretty much answered your question you just don't seem to want to accept it .
Fact is the majority of criminals are theives in one form or the other and completely non violent and if they had enough brains they would be stealing your money while wearing suits worth more than you favorite 1911 and driving a car worth more than your house ALA Bernie Madoff and people are well aware of it .
Doesn't much matter if your a trained high speed killer straight from the battle field or a little old lady shaking like a leafe on a tree from fright as she pulls the trigger your average punk doesn't want to take the chance of being shot with anything any way any how and will run like a scalled dog at the sight of a gun or even a verbal threat that you have one .
Same reason most burglars will avoid homes with dogs getting bit isn't going to be the highlight of their day from any breed of dog .
It's all a numbers game and your friend is playing the odds and chances are he'll live the rest of his life and never need that gun for the reason he owns it just as every single member of the gun boards wont need theirs .
the bandit...want some of my famous cookies?
I ask him because he is a friend and I want a friend to be safe and have the ability to defend themselves. If i ask and he says no fine, but if I dont ask...i would never know.
joe
I ask him because he is a friend and I want a friend to be safe and have the ability to defend themselves. If i ask and he says no fine, but if I dont ask...i would never know.
joe
Schofield3
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I like this bit ^
Vern Humphrey
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Why do people buy guns?
Because the manufacturers don't give them away for free, of course!
Because the manufacturers don't give them away for free, of course!
CJ
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For all too many, because Hollywood shows how easy they are to use, like a magic talisman that will get you out of trouble.
Ironically, this is also the same reason for the desire to ban guns. And why people complain that the police shot someone when they 'could have just shot the gun out of his hands'.
Ironically, this is also the same reason for the desire to ban guns. And why people complain that the police shot someone when they 'could have just shot the gun out of his hands'.
jpatterson
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Jim Keenan
That reminds me, I need to check my fire extinguisher!
That reminds me, I need to check my fire extinguisher!
NMGonzo
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Because I want them.
Magnumdood
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Because I want to.
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I have a friend that has few revolvers in his house... For.. just in case.
He has no interest in shooting them at a range. He has no interest in guns.
I suggested he go to a range once a year to stay in touch. Never happens.
His revolvers are for self defense ONLY. Can't argue with that.
Me...I bought one for self defense. I owned a business and was held up. I went to a range to learn how to use it in a safe and legal dwelling. To this day I still enjoy informal plinking. Picked up a hand gun for the first time in 1981.
I do stress to any of my Non Shooting friends that own a gun...please learn how it functions. Understand it 100%. Especially a semi.
He has no interest in shooting them at a range. He has no interest in guns.
I suggested he go to a range once a year to stay in touch. Never happens.
His revolvers are for self defense ONLY. Can't argue with that.
Me...I bought one for self defense. I owned a business and was held up. I went to a range to learn how to use it in a safe and legal dwelling. To this day I still enjoy informal plinking. Picked up a hand gun for the first time in 1981.
I do stress to any of my Non Shooting friends that own a gun...please learn how it functions. Understand it 100%. Especially a semi.
Riding a bike
No one is born with the ability to ride a bike. But once it's learned it's there for good.
EVERYONE is born with the ability to grasp things, point them, and to pull a trigger. It doesn't take a lot of training to remember how to do that. The main thing to learn is safe gun handling. That might take a little more than 5 minutes, but it certainly doesn't take constant training. Once you know it, you know it.
Your friend knows what recoil and noise level to expect. He has a reasonable knowledge of how accurately he can shoot at a given distance. And most importantly, he now trusts the gun to function reliably. That's good enough for a lot of people, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Even though he doesn't enjoy shooting for fun, he prefers to exercise his right to own a firearm and to protect himself. Good for him.
How many people that carry a knife ever practice knife-fighting? How many people regularly practice pepperspray marksmanship? OK, how many of you single guys have been carrying around the same, unused condom in your wallet for the past year?
No one is born with the ability to ride a bike. But once it's learned it's there for good.
EVERYONE is born with the ability to grasp things, point them, and to pull a trigger. It doesn't take a lot of training to remember how to do that. The main thing to learn is safe gun handling. That might take a little more than 5 minutes, but it certainly doesn't take constant training. Once you know it, you know it.
Your friend knows what recoil and noise level to expect. He has a reasonable knowledge of how accurately he can shoot at a given distance. And most importantly, he now trusts the gun to function reliably. That's good enough for a lot of people, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Even though he doesn't enjoy shooting for fun, he prefers to exercise his right to own a firearm and to protect himself. Good for him.
How many people that carry a knife ever practice knife-fighting? How many people regularly practice pepperspray marksmanship? OK, how many of you single guys have been carrying around the same, unused condom in your wallet for the past year?
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