Why does it seem that people would rather be shot than stabbed?

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Over the years, I have had this topic come up at the range or in barracks or just incidentally. Anyways, I am always amazed at the fact that I find when offered a hypothetical wounding preference, most would rather face death or wounding from a bullet over the same from a knife or a bayonet.

What could account for this admittedly anecdotal trend? I'll give my thoughts later if they are not already accounted for by the discussion.
 
For one thing, a person is more likely to die within minutes from a severed jugular or carotid. Bullet wounds usually aren't fatal.

It might also have to do with the conditioning we've received from movies and TV. A shooting usually is portrayed as somehow instant, where a stabbing is usually depicted in a more gruesome manner.
 
A bullet seems impersonal.A knife in the guts means,to me,that someone REALLY wants to kill me.
 
Because most people have been cut during their lifetime and it's a familiar pain to them. They've only see gunshots on TV and they're painless.

Or perhaps because they'd rather see a small hole in themselves rather than their viscera spilling out on the ground in front of them.
 
I guess if I had a choice it would have to be the gun shot a stab wound burns like you would'nt beleive.
 
Like KMKeller said, most people have been cut, and all of us have seen what a sharp knife can do to animal flesh. How many people have seen an actual gunshot wound?
 
Never been shot, been shot at more than once though ...Been stabbed 3 times and cut several more (not counting the times I did it by accident)...DONT ASK!

Personally I agree with KMKELLER that most dont see it as the threat that they should...
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Then you have the other extreme...younger cops seem to think that knives are somehow "less dangerous" than a pistol...I CANNOT NAME the number of police that have let me in the "zone" even though they could plainly see that I am carrying a knife on my belt...NO FLAMES guys...This is simply an observation...The older cops that have been around are somewhat more "attentive" to what my hand is doing while I am talking to them...
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What I have always wanted to do, is to demonstrate just how deadly a knife really is to those that dont seem to "get it"...I would love to see the expression on there faces when they saw what my teacher could do with a knife in CQB...all 5'4 and 120lbs! of angry asian:D
 
Having been both shot and stabbed on multiple occasions, I can tell you from personal experience that the average bullet wound does less damage and has a faster recovery period than the average knife wound. A knife can and will sever muscles and tendons, cut nerves, bleed viciously, and cause extreme pain. A bullet wound (assuming a non-CNS hit, of course) will bleed less, hurt less, and often be rather easier to repair if no vital organs are hit.

I'd have to add a corollary that a good knifeman will look for a slashing wound rather than a straight stab. A slash will do a whole lot more damage, if the cutter knows what he's doing... :(
 
I second Preacharmans real life experiences as they are well explained.....BTW Preach, how's your back coming along.......well I hope cuzz that's what i prayed for .......;)
 
it hurts

I've been on the wrong end of a knife...it burns and gets infected...it's bad.
I've seen people after they have been shot and they're dying, They're not happy about the gun shot but thy're not in as much pain as I got from defensive hand wounds I got.
 
I've got family that works in an ER. What I've heard echos exactly what Preacherman has stated. Sounds like the vast majority of bullet wounds do little damage due to poor shot placement and the general weakness of the common pistol calibers. A knife, on the other hand, is much more likely to find its way into something critical due to adequate placement and penetration. They see a lot of fatal stab wounds, and very few fatal gunshot wounds.

The FBI states that something like 10% of GSW are fatal, while 30+% of knife wounds are fatal. I have no idea of the accuracy of these numbers (might be overstated one way or the other, might just be outdated), but its another piece of data in favor of getting shot and not stabbed.

I'd prefer to avoid either, thank you very much.
 
I am going to generally disagree with many of the things I have seen posted here, but with a disclaimer.

My experience is based solely on what happens after arrival to the hospital, and not in the field. If someone gets shot in the heart and dies in the field, I never see them, so realize my experience is based solely on people who live long enough to make it to the hospital.

Generally though, most people who are stabbed and make it alive to the hospital will survive. I have only seen a few who died over the course of the last 12 yrs working in several hospitals, one of which was a major trauma center. Knife wounds are generally easier to repair than GSW's. A bullet in the belly is more likely to injure multiple organs.

Knife wounds are frequently more dramatic to look at. They look like they would hurt a lot. There is usually more external blood loss than from a GSW, but there is more internal blood loss from a GSW. A boy scout can usually stop external blood loss with direct pressure. Internal blood loss can't be stopped unless someone like me stops it.

Preacherman's statement:

A bullet wound (assuming a non-CNS hit, of course) will bleed less, hurt less, and often be rather easier to repair if no vital organs are hit.

This is generally true, but there is a big IF in it. Stab wounds to the neck, chest, and abdomen are less likely to actually enter the vital areas where organs and big blood vessels are. As an example of this, consider the fact that pretty much any GSW to the abdomen is going to necessitate exploration of the abdomen to see what was hit. For knife wounds, thats not the case, and exploration is much more selective.

Anyway, thats my experience, and I think most surgeons would agree, but remember, this experience is based on a select population of patients who make it to a hospital alive, and is not based on any kind of "street" results.
 
Count me among those who would rather be shot than stabbed.

No, I've never been shot, but I have been cut many, many times -- generally due to my own stupidity. There is just no injury that feels so sick and wrong as a cut made by a sharp knife. *shudders* You know, that feeling where the two edges of finely-sliced skin move over each other... :barf:

I'd be interested to hear from a population of people who have seen both the knife and the bullet up-close-and-personal, and hear what they have to say.

Wes
 
The FBI states that something like 10% of GSW are fatal, while 30+% of knife wounds are fatal.

Hmmm. Maybe I *will* break down and buy the Mossberg 590 shotgun and put a bayonet on it.
 
The FBI states that something like 10% of GSW are fatal, while 30+% of knife wounds are fatal.

Well, more detail is needed for this statistic to be meaningful. I bet the reporting rates of gunshot wounds both to police and of victims going to hospitals is much MUCH higher. How many knife wounds are unreported to police? How many more are treated at home? If a much higher percentage of knife wounds go unreported to police/ hositals then naturally, the more serious ones are the ones that get into the statistics.
(If you shot your pinky would you go to the hospital? If you cut your pinky would you?)

Personally, if I couldn't pick the area of the body being struck...all else being equal, I'd take a cut over a stab and a stab over a gunshot wound...just my opinion and it is so hypothetical it don't matter.
 
In my experience, I would say that for every 2-3 GSW victims I see, there is one knife wound victim. Though I cannot say for sure, I believe that more people are shot around my area than stabbed, which tends to point to knife attacks as being more fatal (at face value). My expereince is dif. than Lone_Gunman's, in that I only see the people once they are dead.

After seeing what a knife does to some of these people, I can say that I'm very much more afraid of getting sliced than shot.
 
Depends on the knife.

Machette=bad
Ax=really bad
Swiss army knife=no biggy

In my days in New York, I used to carry a Machette in my trunk, in VA an ax.

Four mean looking youths took issue with me in New York, popped the trunk and pulled the Machette, they ran. Somehow the swiss champ would not have had the same effect.

Given that I can sever a 2in diameter sapling with one slash I am guessing a single slash would have been fatal (I kept it nice and sharp). I always planned for low on the neck. Figure if an arm goes up it will probably be immobilized and if not with a slight duck factored in you would cut through to the spine.

Its all relative .22 to .457 swiss champ to machette

FWIW
 
i have never been stabbed or shot but if i had to choose one i would rather be shot. to me it is more of a mental thing. you see a gun pointed at you but you cant see the bullet leave it and enter you. with a knife you can see it coming and brace for the impact which then makes it hurt more initially.
 
A bullet seems impersonal.A knife in the guts means,to me,that someone REALLY wants to kill me.
Yep, that's what does it for me. The thought of someone getting close and personal while carving away is enough to make me cringe.:what:

Being that close maximizes the benefits of HTH, but I agree that 120 lbs of angry (trained) Asian would just ruin your day........anything he touches is gonna get opened up. :barf:

On the other hand, there is some distance (usually) between the shooter and shootee, maybe that has something to do with it also.
 
I'll choose neither but I would like to go out in one piece.

I've seen lots of gunshot wounds. Rifles are meat grinders. I'll take my chances at surviving a knife wound over being turned into hamburger any day.

An ordinary pistol won't have your head rolling off down the sidewalk without you the way some of these portable guillotines will. That would really tend to negate the "pretend you're dead" option.
 
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