Why does Remington shun .308?

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Savage produces an excellent out-of-the box rifle at a very reasonable price. I would probably pick them over the 700s if I were going to use a stock rifle.

The only real downside is they lack the plethora of aftermarket accessories that you can get for the 700s.
 
I've also noticed that most of Remington's hunting rifles which were available in 7mm-08 Remington and .308 Winchester in past years are now available in 7mm-08, but not .308. They also seem to be pushing their .260 Remington cartridge. I suspect that with Winchester's temporary hiatus Remington is trying to use the window of opportunity to elevate their cartridges' market share.
 
"That isn't even close to true."

Ah, okay, fine by me. Guess I just don't know crap and let's just leave it at that.

Ash
 
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ash, the 700 comes in short and long versions. that should be fairly easy for you to verify via simple web search. i thought the 7 was just a cheaper version of the 700.
 
No idea why the 700dbl/cdl are not chambered in it. Buyt i wouldnt say they shun the cartridge, I see at least 10 others bolts in 308.
 
I love my M7. :D

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I checked the on line catalog. The .308 isn't listed in BDL or CDL. Somehow I think it's just a normal product cycle. The .243 and 7mm/08 are available.

Geoff
Who figures it won't increase the value of his BDL in .308
 
Outlaw, you are right, I WAS NOWHERE NEAR THE MARK. The Model 7 is in now way related to the 700, that it is made by the same manufacturer is evidently a lark.

Only a complete idiot or fool would have thought otherwise. Rest assured in any case that I shall refrain from any Remington comments in the future.

Of course, rest assured, too, that a similar code of respect is established.

Ash
 
I never called you an idiot or a fool. I just said your statement wasn't true. If I find any more "code of respect" going on like the other thread, I will just put you on my ignore list. Which you can feel free to do with me, or anyone else who corrects misinformation.
 
the model seven isn't a cheaper version of the 700 it is a different action (smaller and lighter) based on the xp100 single shot pistol action. and they still make 700s in 308. sps, vls , mountain rifle etc
 
Oh, it's more than fine to be wrong. I'm the first to admit to being fallible. Being "not even close to true" isn't exactly a High Road path, eh? Would anyone say that the model 7 being a 700 is "not even close to true?" In any case, the point can easily be made by a simple correction rather than an exaggeration.

Ash
 
To: BobMcG
I have the same Rem. 700 in .308 (700 ADL) Had it for twenty six years, love it. just got a deer last week, never had to shoot twice . I'm going back this week for another one. (Eastern Kentucky). It still looks like a new gun. I would not trade for any new rifle on the market today... Maybe i'm just used to it.
 
When I was looking for a 700 BDL in 308 about 6 years ago, they simply didn't exist. The Remington catalogs didn't list them and none of the gun shops could locate one for me. A few places had the plastic stock/krylon finish ADLs in .308, but even those weren't listed in Remington Catalogs. Oddly enough, most rifles are chambered in .243 but only the 'bargain' model 700s and varmint/tacticool rifles are chambered in .308. I guess remington thinks they know whats best for the consumer:rolleyes:
 
In addition to the above mentioned stuff aimed at the police/military, and the SPS tactical and Model 7

+remington has the 308 in their 'mauser' 798
+remington has it in their semi-auto hunter rifle the 750
+and in the 750 carbine
+and in their 700 SPS varmint configuration
+and their 770 basically an economy hunter boltgun plus scope combo
+and in their 7600 pump rifle line
+and even in their new single shot rifle line

Look, the have the 308 in the rifles where it makes the most sense. It doesn't have them in the tac-driver target/bench/varminters/tactical built around 223 or 22-250 type stuff, nor in the real heavy uberranged guns like the sendero 2, (which is 300 winmag type stuff) but it has it in every other 'target' type gun, which makes total sense.

In the most basic hunting gun, the model 7 boltgun, the entry 770, the mauser, the pump and the semiauto, the 308 winchester is there.

For all the other models, like many of the 700s, it doesn't make sense for it to be there.

Step aside from tactical issues, availabitly of surplus ammo, etc, the 308 is just a 30-06 with the potential to be run through a slightly shorter action....if you are willing to give up performance on the heavier loadings.

The true traditionalists are going to turn to the 30-06 or the 270 winchester.

In special applications, the 308 isn't normally the best bet. Lets say you are going to get a new light weight short action 'hike through the mountains rifle' well, the 308 is a great length, but then why not go for the 7mm-08 and it's wonderful ballistics...or the 243, or the 25-06, or the 7mm remmag.

Or if you have decided that you do need a short action 30 caliber, as your old tried and true 30-06 is not cutting it, that same thinking is going to lead you to...the 300WSM and that line. (and to all of you who say you don't need a brand new 300WSM your existing 30-06 will do just fine, yea, you said that about the 308 in a basic hunter config, and if you didn't the you are sitting there saying your 308 is just fine, which it is, and it's why they don't make many new ones)

it just doesn't make sense to offer 308 in these guns. Would a 308 work just fine in these applications? Sure, but there are a thousand cartridges that would work a tiny bit better in one direction or the other. Put the 308 between the 7mm-08 and the 7mm remmag. Sure, there are a few things where the 308 is a better choice than the 7mm remmag, but then usually the 7mm08 is even better yet. And the same in the reverse, in cases where the 7mm08 is marginal and the 308 is the better choice, well, 7mm remmag is MORE better.

Yea, I realize more better is bad grammar, and no i am not a 7mm worshipper, it just happens that two well know rounds braketing the 308 happen to be 7mm. I suppose I could have use the new 300 Encore or whatever it is called and the 300 WSM, but it would still be the same
 
I was in a gun shop today and got to play around with a few 700s. Do their actions smooth up over time?
If you want a smooth action then get a Tikka.

I've seen plenty of well used 700s and none are as slick as a tikka.
The Rem 700, while a nice rifle, is overrated.


I think you don't see a lot of 700s in 308 simply because 308 doesn't sell well, at least in NC.
In central and eastern NC the vast majority of 700s are 270 with 30-06, 246, and 7mm Mag following behind. It seems like the only 308s you see are lever action BLRs and Savage 99s or heavy barreled tactical/varmint guns.

If you see a guy with a 308 then he's either a gun nut or got the gun for free.
 
I'm not so sure about that. These are the same people who introduced the Etronix, the model 710, and that stupid model 7615.

I'll give you the Etronix and 710, but that 7615 might not look so stupid if you live in a place that has some AWB prohibiting AR's and the like. You can cycle a pump *very* quickly, and the 7615 takes standard AR mags.
 
GREENMTNTAC - "Perhaps a more interesting question is, why doesn't Remington offer any of their varmit rifles in .416 Rigby?"


Well that is simple enough. Because their best selling varmint rifle is their .416 REMINGTON. ;)


FWIW, I have a 1981 mfg 700 BDL in .308 Win. Used it elk hunting just a couple of weeks ago.

L.W.
 
Much ado about nothing.

The .308, IMHO, is nothing more than a short action version of the 30-06 . . . albeit one with less performance potential and flexibility.

The shorter cycling time in a military rifle, along with smaller length/weight ammo may appeal to the military market of the PAST . . . but the venerable 30-06 is THE MAN when it comes to a great, hard-thumping 30 caliber round for deer and such. It is today . . . and it was 100 years ago.

If you want a BDL in 308 you don't have to look far to find tons of 'em that were made through the years. Big deal. Remington has always made the BDLs in lots of cartridges . . . although whats being made from year to year has always changed and varied.

OVERPRICED?

Naaaah . . . the Remington 700 action is seen in soooo many custom rifles shot fromt he bench in competition. Take 25 brand new rifles from all the popular-priced companies and shoot 'em for accuracy, and you'll find less dogs, and more great rifles, from Remington than any other brand for the money. This isn't to disparage fine specimens from Winchester, Ruger, Savage, etc. It is . . . what it is though.

MY $150 Remington BDL . . .

It has taken a lot of deer though the years . . . and was made in October of 1973 . . . the same year of our marriage. It has always been a sub 3/4" tackdriver from the bench at 100 yards . . . and I've even shot a sub 1/2" group with it at 150 yards.

This year's deer season is typical. Two shots = Two deer. Two deer that went straight down.

Mine? It's a 270. IMHO, the 270 and 30-06 are the best two rifle cartridges for our southern whitetails down here in Georgia. I've owned BDLs in both these calibers . . .

$150? For the years of enjoyment I've gotten from that tackdriver, I think it ended up being quite a cheap investment after all!

Invest in good equipment . . . you'll have wonderful results for years to come, and one day . . . . your grandkids will thank you for it too!!!

308? Who needs a stinkin' 308? Nuthin' wrong with the round . . . but there are some a little better . . . for HUNTING that is.
 
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