I picked up a Ruger LCR 22 last night. Got it just for fun, plinking, and DA trigger practice. Great little gun. Got me wondering though, wouldnt this be cool in 9mm? Why do we not see more 9mm revolvers especially for the CCW market? Seems like you would get the advantages of revolver reliability with the extremely versatile 9mm cartridge. Yes I know that there are a lot of reliable compact 9mm's out there with much higher capacity than a revolver would allow but still I think the market would be there. And why not make one in 40 S&W as well?
Why Not More 9mm Revolvers?
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Arkansas Paul
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Trust me, if the market were there, they would be cranking them out. It's about money. They make what sells.
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I couldn't say I'd ever buy one.
38 is cheap, tried and true and roughly the same caliber.
It seems to be more of a novelty idea to say "Yes, it can be done" more than anything else. It's got to be a moonclip gun which is kind of a drag (except I suppose for a wheelgun you can load it fast if you carry the supplies with you)
That's about it.
38 is cheap, tried and true and roughly the same caliber.
It seems to be more of a novelty idea to say "Yes, it can be done" more than anything else. It's got to be a moonclip gun which is kind of a drag (except I suppose for a wheelgun you can load it fast if you carry the supplies with you)
That's about it.
evan price
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No rim means,more engineering to extract fired cases,headspaces on mouth.
38spl can get same ballistic result and easier to work in a revolver.
38spl can get same ballistic result and easier to work in a revolver.
Carl N. Brown
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They sold in small numbers to Israeli police (who issue a lot of other firearms in 9mm and apparently ammo commonality was the big issue).
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I cannot think of a "good" reason to take another shot at a 9mm revolver after the Charter Bulldog/ 9mm Federal debacle. Now, I'm having a Martini Cadet built in 9mm Federal ... but that's only because I'm NUTS! (and 'cause I can).
I can't see that my GP-100 4" SS in .357 Mag would be somehow better if it were chambered in 9 X 18 ... can you?
Then there's the "liability" issue. You can chamber a 9mm Federal in any old break-action S&W 38s. That's a deal breaker for any manufacturer. My personal business experience is that you can be sued when you are not any way at fault. If an idiot can MISUSE your product and DOES ... YOU CAN BE SUED. Your insurance carrier will make a business decision (for better or worse) and most likely just pay out. It's often cheaper for them than to go to court and win.
I can't see that my GP-100 4" SS in .357 Mag would be somehow better if it were chambered in 9 X 18 ... can you?
Then there's the "liability" issue. You can chamber a 9mm Federal in any old break-action S&W 38s. That's a deal breaker for any manufacturer. My personal business experience is that you can be sued when you are not any way at fault. If an idiot can MISUSE your product and DOES ... YOU CAN BE SUED. Your insurance carrier will make a business decision (for better or worse) and most likely just pay out. It's often cheaper for them than to go to court and win.
35 Whelen
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The 9mm's usefulness is due to it being chambered in Hi-cap semi-autos. If you're going to carry a revolver, like someone else said, it may as well be in the .38 which will handle heavier bullets.
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Before everything got stupid, 9mm ammo was $10/50. 38 Special was $16/50. I see a real advantage to a 9mm revolver. If you just wanna waste money, on a lesser performing cartridge, then use the moonclip excuse, as to why a 9mm revolver is inferior.
To the OP. Buy yourself a 9mm revolver. Dont tell anyone, especially anyone in a gun forum. We will just keep this secret to ourselves, and enjoy.
To the OP. Buy yourself a 9mm revolver. Dont tell anyone, especially anyone in a gun forum. We will just keep this secret to ourselves, and enjoy.
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Hi I am firesky101 and I think 9mm revolvers are cool.
"Hi firesky..."
Seriously though, I really want to get a gp100 and set it up for 9x23 winchester. All the options make me giddy.
"Hi firesky..."
Seriously though, I really want to get a gp100 and set it up for 9x23 winchester. All the options make me giddy.
35 Whelen
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Huh?
Chris-bob
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Well, I like the 9mm cartridge. Everywhere I look, the factory loads for a 9mm outperform the .38 factory loads. Someone will probably tell me I'm wrong with some brand I haven't checked out...but aside from that, I want a 9mm revolver.
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You know, you're probably right with regards to factory loads. When I think 38 Special ballistics, I do so from the perspective of a handloader. Handloaded, the two cartridges are very similar with light bullets and the .38 takes the lead with heavier bullets.
Bottom line: re-read post #4.
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Why:
- Most shooters don't want to deal with moon clips.
- The 9mm has a tapered case
- Recoil is high with a 35,000 psi limit
- If you're going to use such a high pressure cartridge the .357 Magnum is better. You can use heavier bullets if you want and the case is rimmed. The cases eject easier too since they are straight.
There are a few good reasons IMO.
- Most shooters don't want to deal with moon clips.
- The 9mm has a tapered case
- Recoil is high with a 35,000 psi limit
- If you're going to use such a high pressure cartridge the .357 Magnum is better. You can use heavier bullets if you want and the case is rimmed. The cases eject easier too since they are straight.
There are a few good reasons IMO.
I recently purchased a S&W 325 TR six-shot revolver which is chambered for .45ACP which requires moon clips.
I like revolvers and after using the moon clips, I am hooked. Reloading is faster than with a speedloader, maybe just a little slower than a semi-auto mag change. I have polymer moon clips which easily load and unload by hand.
I am thinking about machining my 686 for use with moon clips. The only thing holding me back is that the polymer moon clips are not available for my 686 plus, so I would need to get a de-mooning tool.
However, I'm not a big fan of 9mm. Granted, better than a factory .38 load, but can't begin to touch a .357 mag load, so what's the point?
Buy the .357, shoot the .38 for cheap (relatively) practice and load the mag for taking care of business. If you like moon clips, get a 325 or 625 Smith and load a round that puts the .38 and 9mm to sleep. Even if the .45 isn't quite up to the .357 Mag.
Blue
I like revolvers and after using the moon clips, I am hooked. Reloading is faster than with a speedloader, maybe just a little slower than a semi-auto mag change. I have polymer moon clips which easily load and unload by hand.
I am thinking about machining my 686 for use with moon clips. The only thing holding me back is that the polymer moon clips are not available for my 686 plus, so I would need to get a de-mooning tool.
However, I'm not a big fan of 9mm. Granted, better than a factory .38 load, but can't begin to touch a .357 mag load, so what's the point?
Buy the .357, shoot the .38 for cheap (relatively) practice and load the mag for taking care of business. If you like moon clips, get a 325 or 625 Smith and load a round that puts the .38 and 9mm to sleep. Even if the .45 isn't quite up to the .357 Mag.
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If I could find a 9mm revolver for a good price, I'd buy one. Moon clips don't bother me. It'd be more of a range toy, unless I found a left handed 9mm revolver. Then it would quickly get added into my EDC.
But I am unlikely to find a left handed 9mm under $400.
But I am unlikely to find a left handed 9mm under $400.
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