Why Not the 7mm?

[Horsemany]

bluenote

There are some here who tend to state opinion as fact and yes as you have pointed out sometimes talk down to people. I've learned to accept it and hopefully you can too. Most of us figure out who they are and read their posts with curled lips.

And yes the 7mmRem Mag is the holy grail compared to a 308....physics is physics.....we can't change that. I've got multiple rifles in each chambering and yet I remain realistic.

 

[Grey Morel]

Wow, some of you need to get out of the house.

At the end of the day the 7mm Remington Magnum is probably the best all around cartridge in existence. Sales and field use support that conclusion. That's not to say other calibers don't have their strong suits.

 

[Jim Watson]

Any time I hear about the superiority of the 7mm magnum over the .30-06, I recall the American Rifleman article of some years back when USRA brought out the Model 70 Classic to return the claw extractor to the lineup. For some weird reason, they sent the NRA a Winchester rifle in 7mm Remington Magnum to test. NRA chronographed the ammo they shot the new gun with and lo and behold, three out of the five factory loads were of lower velocity than factory .30-06 of the nearest bullet weight out of my 1958 M70. The other two were ahead, but not by a lot. I know about the higher BC and all that, but don't think it matters much to the typical factory load shooter.
A proficient handloader can make the 7mm run, but as said the target shooters aren't buying new guns for belted magnums and the military hasn't been interested in a big 7mm since the 1913 .280 Enfield.

 

[Uncle Mike]

7mm Remington Magnum is probably the best all around cartridge in existence. Sales and field use support that conclusion.

Best all around cartridge....come on now..... sales and field use doesn't dictate the all around cartridge, it dictates beliefs!

The 7RM is a GREAT round, no doubt about it, but calling it the holy grail of cartridges is a bit much, it is extremely popular...good long range properties...everybody makes their rifle chambered in it...but, the 30-06 is the holy grail of cartridges...lol hehehehe

I don't know why I even bothered with this...lol hehehehe

 

[shelbyville515]

Cartridge B.C Bullet Brop Wind (10mph) Energy(ft/Lbs) MaxSS
7mmRM 162gr AMax .625 60.8@1500m 11.7@1500m 451@1500m 1700
300 RUM 180grAMax .495 65.4@1500m 14.6@1500m 401@15400m 1500
338 Lapua 300gr .675 71.7@1500m 12@1500m 785@1500m 1700
50BMG 647grM33Ball .633 73.6@1500m 12.8@1500m 3890@1500m 1600
50BMG 750gr AMan 1.05 50.1@1500m 6.4@1500m 3890@1500m 2700

The problem is finding the right factory loaded ammo for the 7mmRem Mag. Notice that i didnt list ballistics for the 7mm RUM which are slightly better. 7mm is one of the flattest shooters and packs a more leathel punch even out to 1500m almost remaining 500 ft/lbs when compared to some of the other long range rifles. Any of these calibers are good when matching up the right combo ammo for the job you want to do.

 

[MtnCreek]

If I wanted to kill a zombie thread from '09, the 7mm rm would be my cartridge of choice.

 

[HarcyPervin]

If I wanted to kill a zombie thread from '09, the 7mm rm would be my cartridge of choice.

For the win.

Shelby - that thread was just over 3 years old...take a look at the date stamps when you're searching for information or conversations to take part in.

 

[d2wing]

The 7MM mag has been used as a long distance target round and was highly regarded back in maybe the '60s or so. And it has been used as a sniper round.
A few weeks ago in another thread a link to a you tube guy had charts on how to determine the best round for a set of criteria. The 7mm Rem mag had the longest effective range with higher retained energy and supersonic to 1300 meters or so beating all other hunting rounds buy 400 yards. But a couple other much higher recoil sniper rounds could beat it. If I recall the .300 WM was close or better but at a higher recoil.
So it is maybe the most optimal round for hunting and tactical purposes. I hunt with it and 30-06 and the deer and I can't tell the difference but my longest one shot kills are with the 7 MM.
For Military use, they have the .308. They don't need to compromise on special sniper rounds and have rounds that exceed the 7MM. Bigger and faster.

 

[Dthunter]

Shooting a 240grain 7mm bullet would be like shooting a pencil! Lol!

Just toooo much of a good Thing.

 

[Chief 101]

call that an Arrow