FlSwampRat
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Look what The Walking Dead did for the value of Pythons.
Thanks Sheriff Rick.
Thanks Sheriff Rick.
No price gouging doesn't exist:Gouging occurs on necessary items, food, pharmaceuticals, a generator after a hurricane.... There is no gouging ever on optional items like collectibles.
I dislike sellers lying to prospective customers, but I do have to say, I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for someone who doesn't do their own research and thinking. What does it take to pull out a smart phone and check the internet for "When did Century Arms start importing Acme ZY-187's"
[/QUOTE]FlSwampRat said: ↑No price gouging doesn't exist:
No price gouging doesn't exist:
Watch that video again and see why gouging does not exist. Two parties either agree on the trade of money for product or they do not. In either case, there is no such thing as gouging.Gouging occurs on necessary items, food, pharmaceuticals, a generator after a hurricane..
Funny that your video started off about post hurricane generator sales. Please re-read my line I re-quoted above.
If something is necessary to life and health and someone is way overcharging for it, that's gouging.
If someone has a Beatles Butcher cover, a Louis Vuitton holster, Audie Murphy's own rifle, etc. for sale, it's a different story. You can very well live without those luxuries/collectibles/wants. Somebody has a for real Walker Colt for sale and they want $1.500K for it, and someone's willing to pay for it, Blessed Be. Not gouging.
I live in Florida, I've seen trucks set up after a hurricane charging twice what a Honda generator would cost for a cheesy import Harbor Freight wouldn't carry. I did not in any way say/infer/hint that gouging doesn't happen. I said that on optional purchases of things that are simply wanted, it isn't gouging to ask what the traffic will bear.
There definitely has, but that isn't the topic of this thread.There has never been a "state of emergency" on anything firearm related
Every wonder why prices go up on firearms? Having worked in gun shops for a long time, I have a pretty good understanding of the manufacturers supply/distribution chain and how that all shapes prices with new firearms. But as a collector it has always amazed me to watch the prices on collector items go up just because. In the old days, i.e. before the internet, there was no reason for an increase other than inflation or some guy sold one just like this one to another fellow, so.... this one must be worth at least that much. Now there is a relatively new wrinkle in the process -- "the flipper". Maybe its all the tv shows that show people buying something and then "flippin' " it, usually making a huge profit in the process. I realize that in the good old days there were guys out there who tried to make money buy and selling guns. Somebody once said it was probably the second or third oldest profession. In any event, the internet has made it into something of a sport, although I view it more like extortion or maybe highway robbery. For example, there was a guy at a show about a year ago that had three tables packed with relativeley nice 19th century items. There were just a couple of issues: 1. Up until two weeks before the show he wasn't a member of the club, but somebody made a "special allowance" not only to let this guy in but rent him tables too; 2. he really didn't know anything at all about what he was selling other than what he found in the latest bluebook; 3. he clearly ripped of an heir or an estate giving all collectors a black eye. In a more recent example, just today, I discovered there is a dealer in Texas who bought an item on GB just a month ago. He drove up the price to the point that he paid more than twice what a similar one sold for just a month before that. Now, a little more than an month later, he has it listed for sale on GunsInt. at a price 1/6th more than he paid for it. Now, before anybody gets bent out of shape at me, it's clear that he can do whatever he wants, but my question is to what extent are actions such as his damaging the collecting community. With the recent problems at the NRA, it's already pretty cut-throat out there; guys like this only seem to be making it worse. In short, his greed is driving up the price way beyond the mechanism of supply and demand. So, I either pay the price or walk away, but if I pay the price, it's only encouraging other "flippers". At the same time, if this guy's price is now the benchmark, I have to raise my insurance, so he's costing me money even if I don't do anything! And then the next person through the door at the local gun shop with a similar item for sale will expect the "on-line" price he/she saw. So it becomes a vicious cycle. It's reached the point that in some speciality areas of collecting, the "flippers" are pushing up prices almost 50% a year! Can that really be good for anyone other than the "flippers."
Plastic has saved the gun manufacturers.You guys are talking about all the different market forces that affect prices. The real underlying reason prices increase is the constant devaluation of our currency which most attributed to the large national debt. It's also referred to as inflation. Our economy, whether purposely or accidentally, is set up to reward debtors to pay back debt with increasingly less valuable dollars.
Firearms are actually quite inexpensive compared to things like healthcare, housing, automobiles and most hard assets. Automation in manufacturing obviously helps.
There has never been a "state of emergency" on anything firearm related, so by definition there has never been price gouging on firearms
This statement has zero value - just because YOU don't want to spend the money for something doesn't mean someone else won't - especially if it's something they truly want.I, have been to a lot of gun shows. I, see people walking around and looking, but no one buying. Like the man said, there is a sucker born every day. Sure some will buy, but the most of the people who know will not.