Why should I re-join the NRA?

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I've been a life member since about 1984 or 85 not sure. Sure I get lots of mail from them but only one DVD which I watched and then threw away.

I try to send them a check every 2 or 3 months to the ILA.

Like someone else said, they only have 1 issue so if a member of congress is and has been consistently pro gun they will get NRA support no matter what the party or other political positions.

They are not perfect for sure but effective in protecting our 2nd amendment.

We should all try to get one more person to join to give the NRA more strength.
 
If that little bit of junk mail bothers you just wait till you reach 50 years old and the AARP gets you in their sights. And once they take your gun rights away you'll have to re-up in the Marine Corp to go shooting. Where's my checkbook, I think I'll tell them "Thank You, keep it up".
 
It just seems to me that they will endorse the wrong candidates, especially incumbents, just because they show signs of being pro 2nd A, even if they are wrong on everything else.
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Wrong according to who?.........

just because someone doesnt share your political beliefs doesnt make them 'wrong'..........

i dont know if you realized......its not the National REPUBLICAN Association........its the National RIFLE Association........

so long as you support the 2A......they couldnt care less which political party you associate with.
 
i dont know if you realized......its not the National REPUBLICAN Association........its the National RIFLE Association........
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I'm not talking about party affiliation. I'm talking about them supporting candidates that have views that are bad for other aspects of the country. So as long as they support the 2nd amendment everything else be damned? It's going to be hard to enjoy your 2nd amendment rights when the economy tanks. I'm starting to get on a political rant so I'm going to stop. I just think they need to avoid dealing with the devil so to speak just to uphold the 2nd amendment.
 
WHY?????

Man, if you seriously ask such a question, then I most sincerely feel sorry for you.

You obviously haven't paid any attention the variety of issues on both the National and local stages wherein singularly the NRA's muscle carried the day!

And NO, I don't always agree with them or their policy approaches either.........I agree relative to the mailings, but you can stop that with a phone call......didn't know that did you?

What you have gotta realize is that the big boy on the block relative to gun rights IS the NRA..........GOA and the others are truly wannabe's, they fund raise, but when you look at positive and productive legislation it mostly starts and ends with the NRA.............BECAUSE they have both the membership and funding to carry thru............Again, I SURE don't think they're always right, but less that organization you'd best believe we would be in at least the condition that the British Commonwealth Nations are.............for damned sure the 2nd would be merely a shadow of what it now is!

Believe what you want and will, neither I nor anyone else can change your mind, only you can do that, and then ONLY if you keep it open and explore ALL the facts!
 
I'm not talking about party affiliation. I'm talking about them supporting candidates that have views that are bad for other aspects of the country. So as long as they support the 2nd amendment everything else be damned? It's going to be hard to enjoy your 2nd amendment rights when the economy tanks. I'm starting to get on a political rant so I'm going to stop. I just think they need to avoid dealing with the devil so to speak just to uphold the 2nd amendment.
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The NRA is a one-issue organization.

If you get into the mindset where you start to believe people and organizations must not merely be on your side, but must also be Orthodox across the board, then you'll end up doing a lot more harm than good.

Belief in total political orthodoxy is Soviet/Communist style thinking, and is always bad no matter what the particular ideology.

The NRA has a duty to support all politicians who are friendly to guns. If they let themselves get conned into being a more broadly political operation, they'd end up losing their influence. When it comes to gun rights, there's no such thing as dealing with the devil. Either a given politician is friendly to guns, and we deal with him, or else he isn't and we don't.

There is only one possible way to secure gun rights in America, and that is to convince and cajole the American left. The reason that we're living today in the Golden Age of gun rights is that many liberal and moderate Americans have changed their minds about guns over the past couple decades.

Remember, just because something isn't perfect, doesn't mean it isn't any good, and even the very best (such as the NRA) will never be perfect.

If you want to support other freedoms, give money to the ACLU too. I am a member and donor of both outstanding organizations.
 
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Dont get me wrong I am not a complainer , I want to know what they have done , I want to know what the NRA has done locally , just telling me through advertisements and brochures doesnt cut it ,would you buy a Time Share because of the brochures?, and that if I dont join they take away my rights later Ill be sorry , doesnt cut the mustard , Ive been on the right side for years , I have been pro gun and have marched to ensure my word was known , unfortunately , the NRA has gotten so big (800lb gorilla) sometimes an organization that gets that big needs a "come to Jesus meeting" I truelly believe the NRA needs that right now .

Do we need a voice sure we do , but Im betting the president of the NRA makes more than Obama in salary and the salries of the executives is high like a large corporation , well a large corporation does it for profit and I dont have a problem with that , this is a non profit organization is it not?
 
I'm not talking about party affiliation. I'm talking about them supporting candidates that have views that are bad for other aspects of the country. So as long as they support the 2nd amendment everything else be damned? It's going to be hard to enjoy your 2nd amendment rights when the economy tanks. I'm starting to get on a political rant so I'm going to stop. I just think they need to avoid dealing with the devil so to speak just to uphold the 2nd amendment.
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yes.....you think they are bad based on your political views.........no one plans on their views being bad for the country.....just because you disagree with it doesnt mean its bad for the country......


and as stated before....they are a one issue organization......they deal with guns, they focus on guns, thats what makes them good at what they do.
 
Just to clarify my original point , I am looking for evidence as to what the NRA does , specifically ,local , I am all for the NRA, dont get your panties in a bunch , I will probably re-join , I just want to know what has been done , theres like 50,000 firearms laws , what has the NRA done to alleviate this monstrosity ! Im hearing a whole lot of "they are a great organization" , well the Peoples Temple told them that story too, I didnt fall for it!

Yes I cant stand the likes of Boxer, Pelosi,Fienstien and whole line of other politicians who are worthless (mainly Kalifornias cesspool of idiots , I wonder what Govenor Moonbeam thinks?)

I know the answers people , but Im curious if anyone in here really knows?
 
Dont get me wrong I am not a complainer , I want to know what they have done , I want to know what the NRA has done locally , just telling me through advertisements and brochures doesnt cut it ,would you buy a Time Share because of the brochures?, and that if I dont join they take away my rights later Ill be sorry , doesnt cut the mustard , Ive been on the right side for years , I have been pro gun and have marched to ensure my word was known , unfortunately , the NRA has gotten so big (800lb gorilla) sometimes an organization that gets that big needs a "come to Jesus meeting" I truelly believe the NRA needs that right now .

Do we need a voice sure we do , but Im betting the president of the NRA makes more than Obama in salary and the salries of the executives is high like a large corporation , well a large corporation does it for profit and I dont have a problem with that , this is a non profit organization is it not?
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you want to know what the NRA has done.......open your gun Cabinet....if you see a gun in there, thank the NRA

heres a short list of their political activity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association#Political_activity

http://www.nradefensefund.org/current-litigations.aspx

they also support pro 2A political candidates.......

however, they are a NATIONAL organization......so they deal with NATIONAL issues.........to expect the NRA to run around to each state battling gun laws would be impossible and would be waste of their time.

now im not exactly sure what a "come home to jesus" meeting is..........and i really dont care.......the bigger the NRA the better.


and what difference does it make what the president of the NRA makes........he could live in a multimillion dollar home driving 7 porches for all i care.......so long as they continue to fight for my rights.
 
If you try to make gun rights a right-wing issue, you paradoxically end up doing harm to right-wing causes.

This is because America is based on compromise, going all the way back to the constitutional convention and even before that.

If gun rights are tied to right-wing politics, then gun rights will only advance in exchange for a compromise somewhere else on the right.

The key, if you want to have your right-wing cake and eat your gun rights too, is to make gun issues less partisan.

I don't believe in today's rather wretched political climate that the right could be trusted to make the compromises that would be necessary to buy off the left on guns, and for that reason I believe tying guns to the broader right-wing agenda is bad for guns.
 
you want to know what the NRA has done.......open your gun Cabinet....if you see a gun in there, thank the NRA

heres a short list of their political activity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...tical_activity

now im not exactly sure what a "come home to jesus" meeting is..........and i really dont care.......the bigger the NRA the better.


and what difference does it make what the president of the NRA makes........he could live in a multimillion dollar home driving 7 porches for all i care.......so long as they continue to fight for my rights.
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Yup. If you're having a crisis of faith about the NRA, pause for a moment and think about the 500 gun restrictions you aren't restricted by because the NRA stopped them from ever being put into law in the first place.
 
The fact that Paul Helmke, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, Rebecca Peters, Michael Bloomberg, Carolyn McCarthy, and George Soros all loath the NRA is reason enough to join.
 
What X-Rap said on page one surprised me.
Are a majority or large fraction of legal gun owners Not members?

Guns only began to interest me a few years ago (my early 50's), but after I discovered the vast network of lies and omissions propagated throughout most of the media, it is to my regret and embarassment that I was "blind" for so many years.

The reality became even more crystal clear watching the superb testimony by Suzanne Gratia-Hupp on Youtube, opposite Sneator Chuckie Schumer etc.
Have all of you ladies/gentlemen watched it? She was with her parents at the Luby's in Killeen, TX when the madmen drove into it, but her gun was required to remain in the car.

Her compliance with the law helped to cost her parents their lives.
 
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Im betting the president of the NRA makes more than Obama in salary...
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You can't compare them. In addition to his salary, POTUS gets some pretty neat housing, domestic and personal staff, an office budget, some very neat transportation benefits, personal security and a dandy retirement package.

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Im betting the president of the NRA makes more than ...the salries of the executives is high like a large corporation , well a large corporation does it for profit and I dont have a problem with that , this is a non profit organization is it not?...
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Are the people who work for the NRA not entitled to salaries consistent with what they could earn elsewhere in jobs requiring similar skills, training, education and experience -- and having similar responsibilities? Choosing to work full time for the RKBA should not require that one take a vow of poverty. The NRA is not a monastic order.

Any organization, like the NRA, has to be able to offer salaries to top level executives that are competitive with those being offered by other organizations of a similar size. And the NRA can't offer stock options or stock grants like those generally offered, in addition to cash salary, by publicly traded companies as part of executive compensation packages.

BTW, the NRA is a corporation. It was incorporated in the State of New York in, I believe, 1871. It was organized as a non-profit corporation -- that means a corporation without capital stock (not a corporation planning on going broke).
 
NRA holds great classes: what better form of gun control is there?

NRA has one of the best magazines.

I bring all the extra mags in to work to balance out the various idiotic glossies.

Seeing the wide eyes as they spy the cover of the American Rifleman while perusing the magazine rack looking for "Glamour" or "Oprah"...priceless.
 
USMC-1 Do you belong to a local gun range? I am almost 100% sure the NRA underwrites their insurance as most other carriers will not attempt to cover such establishments. That alone should be cause enough to support them. Supporting the local 4H and the firearm safety certification programs they provide are also solid reasons IMHO. If you want to see an impact in your area more than that just get involved and make it happen yourself. A challenge?:D We all need one on occasion to keep our wits sharp IMHO. I have no illusions what the NRA is all about. As I have stated previously if you know another organization that represents us collectively any better than the NRA please let me in on the secret. Any organization that the antis fear so much is doing a respectable job as far as I am concerned.:cool:
 
I'm with Craig and the others who are getting pretty darn weary of carrying the water for people who do nothing in return but sit back and snipe from the sidelines. "Scalawags", Wil Terry called them. I'm much less charitable; I find them to be a contemptible bunch of free-loading bums.
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I feel the same. Nice that some have already spoken my mind.;)

And I haven't even taken myself off the mailing list, though at retirement my contributions aren't what they used to be.

The fact that Paul Helmke, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, Rebecca Peters, Michael Bloomberg, Carolyn McCarthy, and George Soros all loath the NRA is reason enough to join.
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Now this would make quite a nice billboard.
 
It is Congresscritters who say that the NRA is second only to AARP for lobbying power.
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The Library Journal once crowed that congresscritters--uh, congressional staff--rated the American Library Association as Number One in the accuracy of data supplied to congressional staff on issues concerning pending legislation. The editorial noted with some surprise that the NRA was rated Number Two. (The NRA quoted the Library Journal on this issue.)
 
If you want to support other freedoms, give money to the ACLU too. I am a member and donor of both outstanding organizations.
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NRA and ACLU co-signed letters in protest of Ruby Ridge and Waco.

Joint Letter From a Coalition of Diverse Organizations to President William J. Clinton, January 10, 1994, from: Ira Glasser, American Civil Liberties Union; John Snyder, Citizens' Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms; Eric Sterling, The Criminal Justice Policy Foundation; Arnold S. Trebach, Drug Policy Foundation; David Kopel, Independence Institute; James Grew, International Association for Civilian Oversight of Law Enforcement; John Henry Hingson III, National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers; Mary Broderick, National Legal Aid and Defender Association; James J. Baker, National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Affairs; Alan Gottlieb, Second Amendment Foundation.

Joint Letter From a Coalition of Diverse Organizations to Henry J. Hyde, Chairman, and John Conyers, Jr., Ranking Member, of the House Committee on the Judiciary, October 24, 1995, from: Ira Glasser, American Civil Liberties Union; Laura W. Murphy, American Civil Liberties Union; Malcolm Wallop, Frontiers of Freedom; Tanya K. Metaksa, National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action; Gerald H. Goldstein, National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers; William B. Moffitt, National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers; David B. Kopel, Independence Institute; John M. Snyder, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms; Erich Pratt, Gun Owners of America; Eric E. Sterling, The Criminal Justice Policy Foundation
Nancy Ross, Ross and Green; Joseph P. Tartaro, Second Amendment Foundation; James X. Dempsey, Center for National Security Studies; Mark Gissiner, International Association for Civilian Oversight of Law Enforcement; Ronald E. Hampton, National Black Police Association; Conrad Martin, Fund for Constitutional Government; David C. Condliffe, The Drug Policy Foundation.
 
I want to know what the NRA has done locally
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I provided a link very early on about several bills that the NRA has crafted here in the state of Florida. If you did not read it then Sir, with all due respect I am wondering if you are just stirring the pot.

As I also mentioned early on, these NRA threads are pretty much a waste of time (and yes I know..."if it's a waste of time, why are you reading and posting?" Because I can't help myself. :) ) The lines have been drawn and no one is going to change anyone else's mind. For example, I corrected another member early on on his facts and instead of acknowledging his error he dug his heels in deeper.
 
If you decide not to renew your NRA membership, sell all of your guns and move to New York or California. Or you might want to consider moving to another country where they have lost the right to own firearms.
 
Alright. I'm convinced. Just joined up.

I've come to believe that if NRA had about 10 million plus members, we could probably get rid of GCA '68 and a whole lot of other onerous gun laws.
 
YES! Thats the right thing.
I Am going to renew mine too that I forgot to do the other day. They need help not just to defend the 2nd amendment but the 1st and the others. Firearms liberties is just one small problem of everything else is going on but we have to keep supporting them and other grassroots organizations. Talk to your senators too, not just firearms but other things.
Cheers.
 
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