wife's perspective on what to take if we need to leave home

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I'm not trying to start a what is best for the end of the world discussion.

I'm a newly-wed. Wife and I are getting our new lives together as there are many little things to settle (a good problem). Recently, we talked about if I'm not home what firearm should she take from the safe if some sort of disaster struck (fire, floods, bad earthquake, etc.) and shelter in place is not an option. Her rational was completely different than mine. Her end choices don't matter for this conversation.

Basically, she envisions that the firearm for self defense is only one of many things she needs to get out of the home (future children, pets, other important documents,keepsakes you want on hand, etc). In terms of a firearm for self defense, with her hands full of other things she doesn't want something bulky or heavy to deal with. Also, she knows which are loaded and which aren't. She won't have the time to go grab ammo elsehwere (or easily figure out which ammo for what) so, she will only grab something she knows I keep loaded.

It's a different mindset and reasoning than mine and her choice is different than mine would have been. I don't worry about it as I'm of the mindset that I'm weapon and I can use any firearm that I own to defend myself. My approach is to keep things as simple as possible. If she feels there is a threat great enough for her to want to leave she will be stressed and I'm totally fine on whatever she gets as long as it has ammo.

If you haven't had this conversation with your wife, I suggest you have it. It was interesting. The actual weapon itself is a moot point.

PS Yes, we have food in car, copies of critical documents, and have discussed likely scenarios of what she would do if something happens should I not be able to reach her. Shelter in place if possible, depending on disaster where she would likely go, etc. I married well and she is more than capable of taking care of herself and the family. In fact, she is a much better shot than I am. Her country upbringing (vs my city) has done her well.
 
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Dont worry, this thread is already close enough to discussions on TEOTWAWKI that they'll be along to close it soon........

FWIW I'm glad you had the discussion with your wife- fresh perspectives on any situation help keep us from mentally boxing ourselves in with a "I'm always right for me" thought train.
 
in many ways women are more practical--insightful than men. I'm gonna bet that her gun was a up close type ( K-T 380 type or j-frame) as her vision of needing it bases off of womens ( rightful) fear of close encounters. a small box of heirloom pictures is as important to her as an extra mag would be to us. seems you found good in each other.
also, men tend to have an escalation of force in a encounter. women tend to go from -0- to 110% in a heart beat.
 
Have an extra hard drive or even an online file storage system to back up all your pictures and any important files. But remember that hard drives can crash from abuse and online backup takes like a week of your computer plugged into the internet to transfer everything from your hard drive. That way you don't have to take bulky photographs around or take your desktop.
 
I just had this conversation this past week as a wildfire was within miles of my home. I am unfortunately in Saudi Arabia right now on business.
 
I think that instead of the Mrs. grabbing one of the guns that you decide to keep loaded, she should decide which gun she wants to grab. Then THAT gun should stay loaded, with a box of ammo known to work well with it it nearby.
 
I think that instead of the Mrs. grabbing one of the guns that you decide to keep loaded, she should decide which gun she wants to grab. Then THAT gun should stay loaded, with a box of ammo known to work well with it it nearby.

Solid advice. I had this talk a few weeks ago with my girlfriend oddly enough. I work nights and she was home alone and heard some noises that made her a little fearful. What concerned me was that she asked me which guns are loaded and where they are in the house. I keep a Mossberg 500 in a cabinet next to our bed and a GLOCK G22 under my side of the mattress. Both are loaded with empty chambers.

My reasoning for loaded but unchambered is that in case of a hasty grab for the weapon a finger on the trigger will not fire a round into me or her. You have to make the deliberate and concious decision to charge the weapon and react accordingly. So after she asked me and I told her we went to the room where she grabbed the shotgun and pulled the slide back to see a round ready to be lifted and chambered.

This really is a good topic to have with your significant other if you haven't already. You never know if or when either of you may need to make a hasty retreat. If you cannot operate it because you; don't know how, don't know if it's loaded, can't work the action, or know where the controls are without looking at it. Just because you're a gun nut and memorize every facet of every weapon you own, doesn't mean that she/he does.
 
If you want a particular gun, say so and keep it in or next to a little grab bag with mags, ammo, and a super-basic tiny cleaning kit.

Of course, this situation is covered for me fairly well, MrsBFD grabs her carry gun, her other carry gun, and any guns I have in the organizer are ready to go and there are spare mags ... she'd either grab the entire organizer or dump it into a more compact bag.
Time permitting, I trust her choices for long guns ... partly because there's a sub2000 in a hardcase with something like 140 rounds (various types) in magazines and some ammo boxes filling any gaps ... I made it easy to pick the most discrete and portable rifle I have, I should put the AR7a1 (Henry) next to it with some minimags or something, I suppose ... otherwise she'll show up with her mini-14 and 30# of ammo and mags.

But guns are really a small part of making a retreat from natural disaster, food, spare eye-wear, clothing and water first, then weaponry.
 
Thanks for all the feedback. I chatted with wife mentioning I had posted her. She liked it. We likely will make some changes to make things even easier for her. We talked about color coding weapons and ammo cans, etc. She also got a big kick out of the survivalsingle website.

I trust she will make a good decision on no matter what she picks. Again, I can use any weapon she picks as long as it has bullets. Most scenarios have us meeting up with family or friends either locally or further away where there are more firearms so she's mostly looking for a weapon that helps us get from point A to B. Again, something I hadn't thought of per se and part of why I like to talk to her about it as well as others here.
 
Blarby's concerns notwithstanding, our dislike of SHTF/TEOTWAWKI/Zombie Apocalypse threads has evolved out of the fact that they inevitably degenerate into fantasies of being ankle deep in hot brass surrounded by hosts of attackers. We aren't going there, here.

The rules in ST&T clearly allow for:

Defense in the home and elsewhere are both acceptable topics of discussion, with a few limitations. We generally discourage the discussion of road rage incidents, as the use of weapons is rarely if ever appropriate, and as driving techniques are beyond the scope of The High Road. Scenarios must be realistic. SHTF, TETOWAWKI, and fantasy/zombie scenarios will not be entertained here, nor will we engage in discussions relating to the preparation for possible societal breakdown, foreign invasion, and so forth.

Since defensive tactics and strategies applicable the event of realistic emergencies such as storms and floods are inextricably related to other aspects of survival in such circumstances, what to have on hand or to take with you are acceptable subjects of discussion. For example, limited, constructive discussions of the appropriate contents of “bug out bags” are acceptable, as long as they do not turn into “show and tell” exhibitions.

However, broader discussion of “survival” issues, such as the laying in of long term food supplies, water purification, alternative energy, etc. fall outside of the scope of our mission here at THR.org.
-- http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=561603

So far this thread is on topic for ST&T. All everyone has to do is keep it real and keep it on topic and it'll be just fine.

lpl
 
We use bug-out-bags. I make sure that there's ammo, spare mags, and her gun in her bag so that all we have to do is grab them and go.

In this area this discussion happens a pretty good bit. All of the disasters that we have gone through have all been hurricanes. I agree with BFD to an extent, but I consider the CCWs to be nearly essential. However, I prefer that this particular part of the "plan" be ironed out before we need to leave. The reason why is, if the disaster is bad enough you're likely to encounter some of this;

In 2005 when Katrina hit they contra-flowed I-65. All lanes were northbound from Mobile to Montgomery. IIRC that is roughly 180 miles to the 85/65 junction. It took some people 8 hours to make that trip. It is possible that where you stop for fuel might not be where you really wanted to stop. A simple gas-n-go can take 2 hours. That's only counting the stores that hadn't ran out. Hotels and motels fall under the same rules. I'd love to be able to say that I can make it to a friend or relative's house, and some can/could, but I would have a back-up plan just the same. After sitting in traffic for 8 hours listening to "I spy..." with bored, hungry, cranky children that really need to use the bathroom, it is probable that one could be persuaded to stop just about anywhere that they could get out of the car. And, wherever you finally stopped to get out and stretch your legs, or stop for the night, it's likely dark because all of the lit spots are taken. In my opinion, some of these scenarios present ample opportunity for criminals. That's the threat that I am concerned with addressing in an evacuation.

That's just my take on it, but, that's what I think of when I think of bug-out-bags and firearms. I also think of baby wipes, Tylenol, water, food, maps, Tylenol, flashlights, clothes, Tylenol, anti-bacterial soap, radio, blankets, a first aid kit, pillows, and Tylenol. :)
 
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My wife chose her firearms, and has her bug out bag packed with extra ammo/magazines, too. She chose a 22 rifle for the long gun, and I can't fault that choice at all.
Something that was suggested that I thought was a GREAT idea was to put all those documents on a flash/jump drive, and put it in the bag with your printed copies, JUST in case. CZ-USA has a very cool 4 gig drive in a rubber P-07 pistol that becomes a kids toy - the drive is the magazine. :D
 
My wife and I have this discussion every so often, updating our plans as our duaghter gets older or the seasons change. Even if you are covering old ground, it is good to make sure everybody is on the same page.

We have a multi-level approach. Our biggest problem for evacuation is likely to be a chemical leak from the nearby industrial facilities. Sometimes you get very little notice (GET OUT NOW!) and sometimes you get a few minutes to grab your stuff. So we've got a "quick exit" plan, a "more time" plan, and a "lot of time" plan.

It hasn't happened in our neighborhood but it has nearby. I grew up six blocks away from a big BSAF plant and every Saturday at noon they blasted a city evac warning test over the speakers. It puts you in the mindset of what to grab pretty quick.
 
It's foolish not to in these times. We are seeing all these worldwide disasters that are the worst or close to the worst ever recorded. And here in our country we are sitting on 2 ticking time bombs. The new Madrid fault line and yellowstone national park.
 
When it comes time to grab and go, just remember the old saying" a farmers treasures are a warriors burden".

But I'll add a big umbrella to my kit, just in case.
 
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My wife is trained with firearms, and carries an M4 everyday right now. She doesn't care much for recreational shooting, though. If disaster were to strike, I doubt firearm would be on top of her list, but if it was I could see her choices being different from mine. We have little "emergency" kits in every vehicle already, and I keep the cars topped off with gas. Not for the end of the world, but just as a habbit. I'm sure that'll get us out of the area.
 
Big key here (IMHO) is to actually communicate. :) Cousin of mine had to evacuate and the utter lack of planning on their part seriously hampered their evacuation.
 
And the one thing that everybody says that they regreted not taking when running from katrina is their pictures.
We have all of our dearest photos scanned and loaded onto our thumbdrives on our key chains. It took a while to do the wedding photos because we didn't have the digital versions, but everything else was already digital.
 
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