Will the ammo shortage create a flood of used gun?

[Lone_Gunman]

Nothing is going to be banned? We will see.

Personally, I think you are crazy if you think there wont be a ban. No socialist government has ever allowed its people unfettered access to weapons.

As for prices falling, even without a ban, we will see inflation rise as a result of the spending we are doing right now. So the price of durable goods is going to increase, not decrease.

 

[mnnate]

There is going to be a flood of used guns once everyone stops panic buying and then figure nothing is going to be banned and need the cash.

BINGO! I think you are 100% correct. I think that the people that spent money on guns that they couldn't afford will start selling and trading them in/off. I've been seeing this locally already. As far as reloading components go they are still priced high. Bullets and powder jumped 15-25% from spring prices here. Primers are hard to come by. I was checking the local sporting goods store and some guy comes in looking for primers. They had 2K off L.P. primers left and he was asking what they could be used in and ended up buying both bricks. From what I could tell he had no intentions of reloading and had no clue what calibers they worked in. I also know another guy that bought 5K+ small rifle primers and reloading equipment when the "big assult scare"(which is what I personally believe is occuring) started. I know he has NO plans of ever reloading. Its been8 months and he hasn't even opened a box yet. I think that reloading components/equipment will also be easier to come by and cheaper when these people come to their senses. I recall something like this phenomenon occuring in the early '90s. Just seeing the same trend...

 

[rayal]

Used Guns

I can accept the new gun owner/ non hardcore shooter who buys a box or 3 of ammo and puts it away theory

BUT -

I have more handguns and rifles than i will ever need, some in some calibers that are expensive / hard to find even in "normal times" but i have also bought 3 .357 revos and another colt 1911 this year becuase prices were too good to pass up.

I also think that the .gov will never really try to outright ban all guns. way too many dems from red states, but i do think they try to will make the regs and costs so onerous on obtaining and storing ammo that most people will just say F-it and not shoot. See this bill working it sway through the PRK assembly now limiting ammo to 50 rounds month and no internet sales, that is the why the run on ammo. i want my 1 year old son and 4 and 6 year old nephews to be able to shoot and enjoy this American right.

That is why i am actively buying the several calibers that are most prevalent in my collection. of course, teh 6 box a day limit at wally is annoying but if you REALLY shop around you can get deals on the internet. i have been buying in case quantity lately as opposed to a box or 2. prices are a bit better, i also have been shooting less frequently. also, it does see the mad crush is levelling out and inventories of ammo are backfilling.

to the OP - will it create a flood and prices come down ? I dunno about a flood but i really hope prices come down so i can buy even more at lower prices. I think that if the econonmy gets worse you will see more and more quality guns come on the market at firesale priecs. and if its the Glock 19 that Joe non-shoooter bought, shot once and now is facing a layoff, and has no sentimental value becuase its not the piece his great ganddaddy, grandaddy and father all hunted with, you dont think that his old lady will tell him to pawn that thing and if hes really hungry he wont sell it for the 1st $400 shown to him? hell probly throw in a half shot box of hollow points to sweeten then deal

If you think ammo is high (gouging everywherein my neck of the woods in
Pennsylvania the used guns I have seen in small and big gunstores is rediculous. How are you going to by ammo after you buy used gun which
are gouged as well. Took me 3 mos., to get my ammo for my Sig .380,
plus someone in the gunshops said that primer cups for bullets are no longer
made here in the USA but Korea, that's where my ammo came from they
bought PMC. And it wasn't cheap as people are hording as well.

 

[Sav .250]

I don`t see the relevance. ............

 

[happygeek]

What is normal, i.e. 2007 pricing for ammo? I came back to the states in early Jan 09 and bought my first gun at that time. The best price per round I've gotten for the calibers me and the wife own are as follows:

22LR 5 cents
9x19mm 20 cents
45 ACP 38 cents
7.62x51 60 cents

Note: that's when I find them in bulk and buy whatever brand or milsurplus it is.

I haven't really had any trouble finding ammo, just finding it at a cheaper price. I'm just curious what those prices were prior to Oct 2008.

 

[Officers'Wife]

Since a firearm doesn’t take up much space and doesn’t have to be fed it’s not likely to be sold when ammunition dries up. If that were the case the ‘obsolete’ calibers would have been on the market before I was born. Instead, a number of manufacturers started producing these units to meet a lucrative though specialized market.

What concerns me more about the shortage is the possibility of amateur chemists trying to purify lead for ball and manufacture propellant and primaries to make primers.

Despite the best efforts of governments a higher law will always be obeyed, the law of supply and demand. The United States could not legislate away the demand for alcohol in the thirties and the suppliers became rich. The United States could not legislate away the demand for drugs in the 70’s and the suppliers became rich as well as violent. With the current spike in firearm possession the demand for ammunition has spiked. I would hope our government will learn from the past and lighten the restriction on existing and startup ammunition manufacture. Considering governments’ arrogant history of failure I doubt it but there is always the hope.

 

[Beelzy]

Yep, more used guns because people are trading Up!

 

[22-rimfire]

There have always been folks that buy a gun today, shoot a box or two of shells and sell it. You especally saw it prior to hunting season when folks would buy a "deer rifle", take it out a couple times and then sell it around Christmas or shortly after. It is a loosing game speaking from a financial point of view. I don't sell much of anything anymore. The only time I sold many firearms is when I first started attending gunshows and I had a lot of disposable cash. Generally kept them a few months, and decided to sell. I was mostly doing it for the fun of it. I certainly didn't make any money even when I bought smart taking advantage of pricing and being less selective about what I bought. There is always someone else "buying smart". Those days are past and I have no interest in such things now. Firearms get purchased and they will probably bury them with me.

 

[jaholder1971]

I don't see one having much to do with the other.

I'm also not seeing a flood of used guns, either. I expected that if this recession was THAT bad we'd be seeing this happen. Even talking to a couple pawn shops I've found few are being pawned either.

 

[merk]

A lot of people say that things are getting better, however every time I go to Wal Mart the shelves are bare.....Just like the past 15 times ive been to check in the past few months.

I just got a hi point carbine and all I want to do is shoot it without using the meager amount of ammunition ive managed to hold on to.

 

[flrfh213]

i was at the local bass pro yesterday and i have NOT seen that much pistol ammo in ages... i was shocked...

 

[huntsman]

Will the ammo shortage create a flood of used gun?

I don't know maybe, All I know now is a .22lr pistol new or used is hard to find.

 

[mljdeckard]

What .22 is it you can't find? Cabela's has Ruger Mk IIIs for $279.

 

[huntsman]

What .22 is it you can't find? Cabela's has Ruger Mk IIIs for $279.

I started looking for a Beretta 87 then a Bersa, I'd take a MK III at that price if stainless.

 

[leadcounsel]

There's also the fear of ammunition shortages, taxes or bans. Anyone that can think a couple moves ahead in the game realizes that once they have the hardware (gun) they need a lot of software (ammo) to make it work. Anyone with enough sense would hoard at least enough ammo to last casual use for at least a few years.

Also, none of us are competeing with the military or police for our arms. However we are competing with them for ammuntion. There's a huge consumption of ammo and resources that's been ongoing on a two front war for 8 years. That's a massive demand!

 

[PT1911]

NO... the Unemplyment rate will/has!

 

[mustang_steve]

The gun hoarders will cause a flood of used guns, not the ammo hoarders or a shortage.

I'll admit I sold my old Nagant revolver a while ago...but that was because it was too expensive to shoot. Ammo was plentiful...but I'm lucky to find any locally for less than $40 for a box of 50. So, it went to someone that wants it just to round off a Russian Militaria collection. Better in his hands than sitting in a case in my closet.

 

[OleCodger]

Federal Bulk .22 550's seem to be loosening up somewhat......the last two times I've been to our local Wally World, they've had several boxes. Although I've not a bulk Remington Golden Bullet fan, they had plenty of them in stock. This is quite a change over the past several months of bare shelves.....

 

[Bruno2]

"Nothing is going to be banned? We will see."
Reagan , Clinton ,George W . These presidents participated in a ban .
I think something will get banned or restricted during this presidency . I think that ammo will stay high and not come back down to prices that we have seen in the past . I do think a lot of guns will be sold used (cash and carry) and a lot of consignment sales . Gun prices will more than likely fall b/c of lack of demand and competition from the used guns . Then when the talk of which gun or high cap magzine will be banned or restricted will cause a higher rate of inflation(feeding frenzy) on that particular model or type.

We cant trust ANY politicians with our second amendment rights so watch them all .

 

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

Well, yeah, it kinda already did (over the last 6-10 months) - maybe not a flood, but a pretty steady river. Which is not over yet even though the ammo is mostly back, due to the general economy. My guess is this Nov-Dec will be the high-water mark for used guns and thus the low-water mark for prices - Christmas and all. The economy will start to recover, and by the middle of next year, prices will be up a bit, and supply down a bit.