Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by bluetopper, Jan 19, 2019.
Should make an interesting semi-auto pistol.
The 357 maximum is a nice little 150-200 yard deer round pushing a 180 grain XTP at 2000 fps. The biggest thing hampering it is there are are only a few bullets well suited to it since 357 magnum bullets are too soft, and 35 rem bullets are too tough. I'm very excited to see this come out. I don't want one, I just hope we see some new spitzer 357 bullets offered in the 180-200 grain range designed for the 2000 fps velocity range.
I always thought an even better deer round than both would be a straight wall 6.8 spc loaded with 41 magnum bullets. As it turns out someone did make essentially a straight wall 6.5 grendel to use 40 caliber muzzleloader bullets. I just found it by searching. Unfortunately it uses rather obscure Carcano brass as its parent.
How is the 450 too big for deer? It uses the same projectile as a 20 gauge slug, is a 20 gauge also too big for deer?
A 35 cal bullet in a 308 case made to fit in an AR-15 would be great.
Kinda looks like they ndusted off the old win. 351 WSL..........look it up,
That is called a 358 yeti. They are out of stock on them for the next couple months but I am getting one for next deer season.
I too am a .357Max fan. Shot it in IHMSA for a number of years. Yes, maybe it'll spur a better selections of .357 bullets
If that was a deal breaker the 300 blk wouldn’t exist.
A modern day .351 Winchester. Interesting.
Specs will be interesting. A straightened out .223 is not quite a .38 or even 9mm. Head diameter will likely be larger. Like a rimless .357 Max, eh? But probably no so much larger that you can't rebarrel an AR for it with little if any other change.
I guess it will be good for those "straight case" hunting states, for those who don't mind throwing uncommon brass in the weeds.
If it’s a rebated rim, so it uses the same bolt as a .223, it wouldn’t be the first round to implement the idea.
I forgot to post earlier that I want one of these in a bolt gun. I will most likely build an ar upper too, but the bolt gun is more interesting to me. Think short handy suppressor host.
Or get a lightweight AR10 and chamber it in 358 Winchester. If ever there were a cartridge that deserves a second look it’s the 358. Best cast bullet cartridge there is.
yes 358 win is a fantastic round. i cringe when ever i see it listed in the obsolete section.
Upon further reflection, I can’t believe the name. 350 legend is doomed for failure. They should have named it the 358 velociraptor...
No stealing my idea!
It's MY idea Loonwulf! Don't steal it from ME! Jk, but I really want to build a mini Mauser switch barrel in a 357 max rimless, and 221 fireball, and maybe 6x45. Switch barrel makes it easy, but I may just build it on a savage action.
Very interesting, will keep an eye on this one.
They now have it listed on Winchester’s ammo website with velocities and weights. Looks like 150 grain up to 265
If you click on the down arrow next to features it brings up the ballistics on each different type
Here's a fresh article about the 350 Legend that just came out a few hours ago.
Wrong link dude.
I'll quote them here:
145 gr USA FMJ, 2350 fps, 1778 ft lbs, BC approx 0.182
150 gr Deer Season XP, 2325 fps, 1800 ft lbs, BC approx 0.222
160 gr Power Max Bonded, 2225 fps, 1759 ft lbs, BC approx 0.202
180 gr Super X, 2100 fps, 1762 ft lbs, BC approx 0.220
265 gr Super Suppressed, 1060 fps, 661 ft lbs, BC approx 0.326
This looks awesome for suppressed use
The 145-180 bullets all are really disappointing in BC compared to the Hornady 180 xtp that works really well in the 357 maximum.
Interestingly it looks like the case is .105" longer than the 357 maximum, just to make life more complicated.
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