Wolf Ammo. Is it still garbage?

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Today I gave my local gun shop guy a hard time for continuing to carry, and offer the only discounted sales prices on Wolf .223 ammunition. Was I too hard on the guy for making my point?

This ammo seems to be pure garbage. The steel case's laquer finish goes gummy in the chamber and you are guaranteed a stuck case if you use this stuff in a semi-auto and the barrel is permitted to heat up. Seems to be a fatal flaw that any self respecting gun shop owner would keep from customers. That is, unless you have the motive to sabbotage a shooting session. Could ANYONE imagine using this ammo in a self-defense situation? How about even in a gun you care about. The first time I used it I had to use a steel cleaning rod and bang it against a tree with the rod in the bore to dislodge the stuck case in one of my AR's.

Now, I hear rumors that Wolf has changed their ways. If so, why is it not publicized? Or is it really just a rumor? You would think that if Wolf is no longer coating their ammo with "glue", then they would at least add "new and improved" to their packaging. Right?


-Fiero-
 
Russian ammo for Russian guns, man. They did change the coating, too. Now it's a grey polymer coating.
 
Fiero, Wolf now coats the steel cases with a heat resistant polymer.
Sure, there is still laquerd cases out in the market, but if it bothers you don't buy it.
Just don't go around and spread rumors. Try for yourself first.

I shoot thousands of rounds of 9mm and 223 Wolf through my guns. Thus far I've had one missfire.
Some say the steel cases are hard on the chamber, but check for yourself just how hard the steel is. Its not much harder than most brass cases.
 
My Saiga and my Makarov eat Wolf ammo like it was candy. It works well in Commie guns. But Western guns may be a little too tight to run on it for long. I would not call Wolf ammo garbage, though.
 
Garbage? Nope. Match grade? Nah.

5000 rounds through my Mini-14 without one malfunction. Good enough for me.
 
My SKS's work flawlessly with Wolf, AND, I don't have to pick up the empties. :D
 
I use Wolf in my AK and it runs just fine. I have also been using Ulyanovsk since Wolf quit putting sealant on the case mouths.
My general rule is that if it is a gun that was made to use that type of ammo (AK, SKS, Makarov) I use that type of ammo.
If I am using something like a modern sporting rifle or my SIG, I use good brass cased stuff (I like S&B for blasting ammo but lately I have been using Win White box).

It depends on the gun.
 
My Saiga eats it like it can't get enough. My neighbor puts enough Wolf ammo through his AR15 to choke an elephant, and he doesn't have any complaints about it.
 
I found this informative

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=177728

Bottom line, it appears that the vast majority of folks use it without issues although some have had serious issues and refuse to feed it to their firearms.

The switch from Laquer to Polymer also makes the Wolf decision a little more complicated. My AR seems to shoot it just fine, although I doubt I'll feed it a steady diet...

Safe shooting,

CZ52'
 
Kobun,

I was not trying to spread a rumor, but trying to dispel one to ascertain fact from previous first hand knowledge, which may have changed.

I would never experiment further with their ammo on my valuable weapons unless I know that the problem is now fixed.

From the very helpful information you all have provided, and whch I now have researched, I will now give Wolf a second chance in my guns. All along I was hoping that Wolf would indeed make the necessary changes so that this relatively inexpensive ammunition could offer me an advantage.

Thank you all for your replies. I think that not only are they helpful to me, but to others in the same or similar situation.

I bought some Olympic ammo today. I will buy some Wolf tomorrow, and as soon as I am able, I will see if Wolf is a good for me, as it seems most of you have found it.

BTW, I have never had a problem with the Wolf 7.62 x 39 stuff I have put into my SKS's and my AK Variants. My only problem, and question had to do with the .223 variety that I intend to use in my AR's and Mini 14's(in which I did have previous problems) That is no rumor. :)

Thanks Again.

-Fiero-


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Wolf 30-06 was horrible. I bought a hundred rounds or so to plink with from my old Springfield 03-a3... extreme variances in accuracy. Don't recall the cases sticking thought they were tight on the stripper clips.

I won't be buying any more of that.

I know a lot of guys that run Wolf or Norinco through their Maks, SKS and M-44s, but I was pretty dissapointed to say the least.
 
Four rounds of Wolf 7.62x54 148-grain FMJ went into 1-3/8" at 100 yards from the bench. Good stuff.

I like the new polymer-coated 7.62x39 as well.
 
my AR has had a steady diet of it for the past few years, without a single Malf.
and the new polymer coated cases are really slick.
-Jesse
 
Haven't had any problems with 9mm, .45ACP, or 5.56mm (AR).
 
I didn't think it was junk to begin with. But then again I fed it to an SKS. But it does indeed use a new coating. The old casings were a greenish brown, the new are a light grey. It's still not the most accurate ammo around though.
 
Wolf 7.62x39 runs fine in my SKS and AK. My Mini-14 eats Wolf .223 like candy, although my Colt AR-15 gave me a few bolt-over-base FTFs with it. Accuracy of these two calibers is nothing to shout about, though, and the .223 is noticeably downloaded compared with Federal or Winchester.

My Springfield M1911 likes Wolf .45 ACP, and it's as accurate in my gun as WWB.
 
If ammo like Wolf is going to mess up your gun (barring any rare kabooms from double loads or something extreme like that), I think you had better re-evaluate the reliability of your weapons platform. Sure it is not super accurate and may run dirty, but it should be able to throw lead downrange without fail and keep it in a reasonable target area. I have experienced a Colt H-bar match AR-15 that is capable of spewing wolf .223 at a steady rate, kind of like drinking bud light out of a wine glass, but it works.
 
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