H&Hhunter
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Colorado USA
Posts: 1,207 HEY GUYS!!! HAVE ANY OF YOU ARMCHAIR EXPERTS EVER HEARD OF PURSUIT SEASON????
Apparently NOT!
That is a season, usually in the spring that is set aside for the pursuit only of bears with dogs for the purpose of training bear dogs. The bear is not killed but only treed and then let loose. In case some of you guys didn’t know it hound hunting is one of the only forms of catch and release hunting on the planet. The hounds men is NOT allowed to carry a firearm during pursuit only season although many do for obvious reasons but they risk a fine by doing so. The hounds men will use older dogs mixed in with younger dogs. The older dogs do much of the training of the younger dogs once a scent is hit.
Doublenaught writes,
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If he is so concerned about his dogs, maybe he should keep them in sight better than just letting them loose to roam and chase. Just because bears may turn tail does not mean he has been sufficient as a dog trainer in letting them roam on their own.
Dear Mr spy,
This may be one of the ALL time most ignorant statements ever written on this or ANY hunting forum in existence. You sir have OBVIOUSLY never hunted bear or cat behind hounds. And while that doesn't stop you from posting like you do have some knowledge if you had even the slightest idea of what you were talking about you'd realize just how ridiculous that statement was. Hounds do not stay in sight of the hunter after "striking" a solid scent. Once a solid scent is hit the dogs take off in pursuit and you may not see them again for many many hours.
Which brings us into point of fact number two.
Since there is no possible way of keeping pace with a pack of hot trailing hounds they have been bred to bark and bay loudly so that the hunter can locate them during the pursuit and after they tree an animal DUHHHH!!!!!
Which pretty much covers this little jewel that was also written by Doublenaught,
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Wolves eat. Scott trains his dogs to chase other animals, such as bears, tree them, remain on station until he arrives, barking the entire time. Translation to other predators such as wolves, "We are a bunch of stupid citified dogs with no gun toting master around and we have treed a bear and will keep yelling until our master comes and hope that in the meantime that we aren't calling out to other predators that the dinner bell has rung and that they won't attracted to our sounds that give the impression we are a bunch of weak, wounded animals as no predators in the wild waste time and energy screaming at the top of their lungs like we do because they don't want to be eaten either."
Sir right here and right now you tell me what animal on this planet predator or not besides a pack of wolves will be attracted to a pack of baying hounds!
Double I have to ask you this public forum if you are a hunter , if you have ever hunted, and what are your true motifs in regards to posting on this forum? Some of the statements you’ve made in the past have got me thinking that there is something a little more sinister than just a name in regards to your handle. Are you or are you not an anti hunter. Because you sure as heck sound like one most of the time.
People who have drank the cool aid on these wolf reintroduction programs fail to see the big picture. This is the most effective anti hunting program ever devised and will effectively wipeout big game hunting in many areas of the United States
Wolves have been knocking the heck out of hunting dogs in many other areas too. This is nothing new. It doesn’t bother me that wolves have been reintroduced into several areas. Yellowstone being one of them. What does bother me is that the local citizens had no say in the process. That affected states do not have any oversight or management tools to control wolf populations. That these wolves remain federally protected once they leave their intended reintroduction areas. That people are not allowed to defend themselves or their property from wolves and are criminalized if they do. That the federal government has maintained draconian rules with regards to wolves and are generally acting like a bunch of oppressive leftist animal rights nazis in regards to the whole wolf program.
Some of you guys sound like a bunch of fuzzy legged tree huggers wearing stop the killing tee shirts standing in line to get into the re-elect bilHillary meeting!
I can't even believe some of the CRAP I'm reading here!
Cosmoline,
I agree with your premise about wild country and teeth. However having lived in AK for awhile I seem to remember many of the same arguments about wolves and I still hear them today in regards to big game population and in particular these arguments when Ak stopped aerial shooting of wolves.
Most pointedly Alaskans would FREAK out if the federal government decided to, without the approval of Alaskans reintroduce some animal into the state than declare it to be the holy grail of all animals which can never be managed by the human hand and not allow the state of AK to have any say in its management. And of course there is a hunting season on wolves in AK. That is all that Idaho residents are asking for at this point. A way to manage the burgeoning wolf population.
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H&H great post.
As an Idahoan and an extremely avid sportsman year round (when I am conus) I must say that I get the impression that many of the posters, though well intentioned, do not know much about the various methods of hunting big game outside of deer or pigs. Not that that is a bad thing but hunting in the wilderness areas of central idaho is not the same as a hunting lease in the south that "grows" whitetails.
BTW, I can on any given night take my coyote howler and howl from my dads back deck in the mountains of central Idaho and have a number of wolves anwer. It is great to tell that to city folks who don't believe it, then watch as their eyes get HUGE when I do it