Wanderling
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They were originally designed by a Frenchman for bear hunting with a muzzle loader? Correct?
Sooo..... If I was hunting dangerous game with a muzzle loader, and I was prohibited from carrying a pistol, I would want a bayonet on it.
MN allows the holder of a carry permit to carry any pistol they care to holster in the field. So no, I would never want a bayonet for any other purpose than collecting.
Mosin Nagant rifles will not shoot to POA without the bayonet fixed in many cases. Mine was more accurate without the bayonet, but the sights needed adjustment.
No. The bayonets were designed to keep the cavalry away, effectively replacing pikes. Before they were invented, more than half of the infantry were pikemen who, after the muskets were perfected, didn't really do much on the battlefield other than being a static deterrent to cavalry charges.
The bayonets become pretty obsolete once the repeating rifles and machine guns appeared, however armies kept them since the bayonet charges were so ingrained into military tradition.
In WW2 Soviets used bayonets but their preferred weapon for closed hand to hand combat (other than submachine guns) was a sharpened trench shovel. At least from what I read.
As to hunting the big game with bayonets, this is a misunderstanding. Back in the XIX century and before in Russia, they hunted bears with a "rogatina" which was basically a two-pronged pike or lance. The hunter would wait for the bear to attack him - at which point the bear will stand up on hind legs - stake one end of the rogatina into the ground, and impale the bear on the prongs which prevented the bear from reaching down & clawing the hunter. This was still very dangerous. Using a bayonet attached to a rifle would've been simply suicidal.
At to your second point, this is true. Mosins were designed to be used with bayonets, at least the early ones. So they were probably zeroed in with one attached. The bayonet charges were a big thing in the old Russian army, just like Banzai charges for the Japanese. Must've had something to do with having large numbers of very brave but poorly trained peasant recruits.
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