Wyoming Spring Bear

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Hello all. My BIL and I are headed to Wyoming in May to hunt black bear for the first time. This will be a self-guided, spot-and-stalk learning experience. I've planned seveal fall elk hunts over the last five years, but I've never planned a bear hunt nor have I been to Wyoming. So there's a lot I don't know. I've done some reading, watched some videos, and listened to some podcasts. I identified a unit that has a decent population of black bears and is not in grizzly bear territory. Tentatively, we're thinking of showing up around May 15th to hunt. Our plan is to camp at the truck and move around as needed until we find fresh sign or bears. What I know about spot-and-stalk spring bear hunting can pretty well be summed up as (i) glass near the snow line and look for bright green grass to find them feeding, and (ii) walk logging roads to find sign, and then figure out where they are feeding. That's about all the plan I have at the moment (other than some preliminary e-scouting).

I know this going to be weather and snowpack dependent and varies from year to year and probably area to area. But I have to ask anyway: for those who have hunted spring bear before, what are your thoughts about a May15th hunt? I'm tempted to go a week later to allow roads to clear up more and to perhaps get closer to the bear rut, but the unit I'm hunting looks like it often closes around the end of May or early June each year due to the female mortality limit. I'd hate to go up there and then not get to hunt because the folks who knew what they were doing shot all the bears already. Based on current SNOTEL data, this appears to be a relatively "average" year for snowpack in the area I'm planning to hunt, but that could change in the next 6-8 weeks.

A related question is at what elevation range you would look for bears in mid-May in Wyoming. Sources I've read suggest spring bear hunting is done from 4,500 feet to 8,500 feet. That's quite a range, and it matters quite a bit because in the area I'm looking to hunt there isn't a lot of national forest below 7,000 feet. Looking at SNOTEL data for this unit, and making lots of rash assumptions from that limited data, it appears to me that by May 1 the snowpack is usually gone (in a "median" year) from about 7,500 feet and by May 15th the snow line is usually up past 8,000 feet. Does that sound right to folks who live in or have been to Wyoming in May? I know last year was an outlier.

Another related question here: in what condition are forest service roads this time of year? There's a highway in the unit that goes up to about 10,000 feet that tends to stay closed due to snow until the end of May or early June, but many of the forest service roads coming into the area stay at lower elevations. I'm hoping they will be passable (in a 4x4 pickup) or else I don't see how one could get into the forest to find bears. I'm a flatlander and haven't previously spent any time in the mountains in May, so please forgive my ignorance.

Any help or advice is appreciated. If you have good sources of information (books, blogs, podcasts, etc.) you recommend, I would appreciate those too. Thank you.
 
The only thing I can say is I don’t know of any place in Wyoming that’s lower than 4500 feet.
So you probably don’t have to worry about that.
The lower elevations of the Big Horn mountains is probably a good bet.
 
I live near the Big Horns. We have poor snow this year if you are a skier.

I would call the local USFS office to ask for road conditions and closures. Just because there is no snow doesn’t mean there won’t be a locked gate or closure sign. And the FS will close trails due to muddy conditions without warning.

Most guys that bear hunt put in for a bait site. These are allocated in 1 sq mile sections. While not illegal, it is considered poor form to intrude on them.

Weather is variable. Prepare for 20 degrees at night and possible snow. South and west aspects are nearly all melted at lower elevation. Higher elevation has enough snow that you’ll get a workout.

Are you hunting off HWY 14 by chance?
 
I live near the Big Horns. We have poor snow this year if you are a skier.

I would call the local USFS office to ask for road conditions and closures. Just because there is no snow doesn’t mean there won’t be a locked gate or closure sign. And the FS will close trails due to muddy conditions without warning.

Most guys that bear hunt put in for a bait site. These are allocated in 1 sq mile sections. While not illegal, it is considered poor form to intrude on them.

Weather is variable. Prepare for 20 degrees at night and possible snow. South and west aspects are nearly all melted at lower elevation. Higher elevation has enough snow that you’ll get a workout.

Are you hunting off HWY 14 by chance?

This is good info. As we get closer to heading up there, I definitely think I need to call in and ask about specific roads. And I should look up the bait sites just so I know where folks will be baiting.

In terms of weather, I figure I could see 15 degrees to 70 degrees and am trying to plan accordingly. Kinda like hunting in September . . . When you say "lower elevation" and "higher elevation," what in general terms do you mean? 7000 vs 9000? 5000 vs 8000? I understand the general principle, but I'm trying to figure out what general elevation bands to focus my e-scouting.

I'm not planning to hunt near HWY 14, though those units were in consideration before I picked one further south.
 
When you say "lower elevation" and "higher elevation," what in general terms do you mean? 7000 vs 9000? 5000 vs 8000?
There is not much snow under 7500’ on this side of the mtn currently.

I would expect most gravel roads to be easily passable when you are here. None of the campgrounds will be open on May 15 so bring lots of water unless you want to go into town. Bring a fly rod. Be cognizant of private land holdings along Hazleton Rd if you are hunting off 16. Check the regs on hunting the Wilderness. Nonresidents typically need to be accompanied by a resident in the Wilderness.
 
This is good info. As we get closer to heading up there, I definitely think I need to call in and ask about specific roads. And I should look up the bait sites just so I know where folks will be baiting.

In terms of weather, I figure I could see 15 degrees to 70 degrees and am trying to plan accordingly. Kinda like hunting in September . . . When you say "lower elevation" and "higher elevation," what in general terms do you mean? 7000 vs 9000? 5000 vs 8000? I understand the general principle, but I'm trying to figure out what general elevation bands to focus my e-scouting.

I'm not planning to hunt near HWY 14, though those units were in consideration before I picked one further south.
Are you hunting on a "wilderness area"? Last I knew the basic rule of thumb for a nonresident was hunting on public land=guide required by law.
 
Are you hunting on a "wilderness area"? Last I knew the basic rule of thumb for a nonresident was hunting on public land=guide required by law.
Hunting public land but not wilderness. It’s only wilderness you need a guide as a nonresident. Regular national forest is fair game.
 
I hunted blackbear in north west Colorado, just over the border from Wyoming. We had a plan, then got there and discovered all the food sources were different from that which we planned to find. This was a fall hunt so I imagine it was nothing like your hunt will be. What it showed me was that a good plan must be flexible. We had to go back to the drawing board and it turned out bears were living on roots. Once we found them dug up and surrounded by bear prints it seemed pretty obvious, but who’d have thunk it?
Yes, ask people for advice. Yes, try to get all the insight you can. All of the questions you asked and research you’ve done are great. Be ready to start over, though, and be willing to abandon the plan if need be.

That said, spring bears are a totally different ball of wax. Snow melt means plentiful water and new growth creates lots of food. I hope you have a great trip.
 
That's too cool. But I thought a bear picture was included. Passing through the Arkansas mountains around magazine mountain I saw one in a car port.
 
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